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12-16-2011, 08:22 AM
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You know it's sad when your most expensive player is quickly becoming like #4-5 on the center depth chart. Leblanc has even played better than Gomer, can't believe how many games Gomer has missed too.
I'm glad he's missed that many games....more games with a better chance at winning....and I'm getting tired of him getting to the opposition blueline with the puck at top speed only to screech to a halt 1 ft in and fire a cross-ice pass at the on-coming wingers' knees

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12-16-2011, 08:32 AM
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If anything that pisses me off. It's the fact he played M Darche almost 20 min last night ! And not having Cole-DD-Patches out there for the 5-3. Pleks and Cammy are just so ****in lost right now.

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12-16-2011, 08:34 AM
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How much icetime would you be ready to give Leblanc tomorrow?

Now that we know that he doesn't suck, surely he deserves more than 4 minutes...

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How much icetime would you be ready to give Leblanc tomorrow?

Now that we know that he doesn't suck, surely he deserves more than 4 minutes...
More than Mathieu ****in Darche thats for sure !

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12-16-2011, 08:54 AM
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How much icetime would you be ready to give Leblanc tomorrow?

Now that we know that he doesn't suck, surely he deserves more than 4 minutes...
Leblanc should have had more than the one shift after the goal he scored.


He should have gotten around 10 minutes maybe 12 mins. so about THREE TIMES AS MUCH ICE!!!! damn I hate JM sometimes


This could have cut Darche down to about 14 mins, and he would have had the wind to make it to block Meszaros' point shot...that he himself said he should have done.

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12-16-2011, 09:39 AM
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I'd be ****ing livid at Martin if I was Leblanc.

After you score a goal there's nothing more you want to do but to get back on the ice and ride that wave of confidence.

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12-16-2011, 09:56 AM
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I'd be ****ing livid at Martin if I was Leblanc.

After you score a goal there's nothing more you want to do but to get back on the ice and ride that wave of confidence.
What has LL done to earn the right to be livid at Martin? his 8 games in the NHL?

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12-16-2011, 10:04 AM
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Leblanc should have had more than the one shift after the goal he scored.


He should have gotten around 10 minutes maybe 12 mins. so about THREE TIMES AS MUCH ICE!!!! damn I hate JM sometimes


This could have cut Darche down to about 14 mins, and he would have had the wind to make it to block Meszaros' point shot...that he himself said he should have done.
The problem he had with LeBlanc probably wasn't his "entertaining" goal it was his dumb "holding the stick" penality at center ice when he had the puck.

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12-16-2011, 10:05 AM
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I'd be ****ing livid at Martin if I was Leblanc.

After you score a goal there's nothing more you want to do but to get back on the ice and ride that wave of confidence.
If it were me, I would be perplexed as to why a coach would be benching me after scoring. I would start second-guessing my abilities and probably would end playing nervously for fear of doing something wrong.

Unfortunately, JM doesn't put himself in his player's shoes because if he did he'd realize he's affecting the confidence of his young players and realize that that is why they're making so many errors. A young player's mental fortitude is fragile. Just look at Gorges as an example when he first got here. He made a glaring mistake that ended up in a huge goal against. Gainey told him to pick himself up and he put him back in the lineup the next game. Gorges has credited Gainey for that move and giving him the confidence to succeed in the NHL. JM has done the opposite for his "youths" - he piles all the blame on them and benches them willy nilly.

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12-16-2011, 10:18 AM
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I'd be ****ing livid at Martin if I was Leblanc.

After you score a goal there's nothing more you want to do but to get back on the ice and ride that wave of confidence.
Emotion doesn't exist in Martin's game plan.

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12-16-2011, 10:19 AM
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Emotion doesn't exist in Martin's game plan.
Hope it stays that way, no need for Professionals to overreact like people do here.

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12-16-2011, 10:52 AM
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What has LL done to earn the right to be livid at Martin? his 8 games in the NHL?
What has Jacques Martin done to earn any ounce of respect?

His 0 stanley cups with teams that even a monkey could've coached to victory?

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12-16-2011, 10:55 AM
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What has Jacques Martin done to earn any ounce of respect?

His 0 stanley cups with teams that even a monkey could've coached to victory?
He's LL's direct boss so to speak. Whether it's Martin or Patty Roy you respect the position itself, the position of COACH. your disliking of Martin has nothing to do with anything.

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12-16-2011, 11:12 AM
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Sean Couturier, 19 years old, Philadelphia Flyers, born in Phoenix Arizona, USA of all places, playing in the last couple of minutes against the Canadiens with the Flyers holding on to a one goal lead.

THAT is how you develop young players.

Do you remember what Max Pacioretty said about JM? He would have rather played in Hamilton than get garbage minutes on the 4th line in Montreal.

Fortunately for Max, we ran into some injury problems and JM was forced to use Max on the top lines with top line minutes.

Should we wish for Cammalleri to get hurt?
Seriously, you're not far from plain making stuff up to bash Martin. You know what job Couturier has played for the Flyers before Giroux got injured and they were forced to play him up the lineup? As the 4th line center/Penalty kill specialist. Blair Betts replacement. Your praising a team in contrast to Montreal that's been doing exactly what you're bashing Montreal for.

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JM needs to develop darche, he is the true undiscovered talent. Darche needs a minimum of 20 mins a night so he can become a superstar 4th line no energy guy.

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I'd really love hear Martin explain this one. Who the hell benches a player after they've scored their FIRST NHL GOAL??


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12-16-2011, 11:37 AM
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Loved his reaction to the goal, all intensity and no celebration. Kid is bursting with the desire to win, supercharged with compete, he's burning the jet fuel of fury, he's like a...Rocket?

Great moment, choked me up a little. First of many Louis LeBut!

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I'd really love hear Martin explain this one. Who the hell benches a player after they've their FIRST NHL GOAL??
He was too busy blaming the rookies for the loss to the media !

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Yeah because the Habs haven't dressed any rookies this year or given them any minutes...


Like...wow...just wow...do you ever at any point read the garbage you post?

Couturier should be playing in the QMJHL, after a good start his play has gone to crap, he played with top wingers and generated nothing, took like 4 penalities and doesn't have a point in over a month(no points in 15 games). I like the kid and he should be a good NHLer, but he doesn't belong there right now.
Do you deny that Max Pacioretty said that about Martin?

Do you deny that JM sat Leblanc after scoring a goal?

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He's LL's direct boss so to speak. Whether it's Martin or Patty Roy you respect the position itself, the position of COACH. your disliking of Martin has nothing to do with anything.
Respect is EARNED. It is not given. It does not matter your position, your parents, your income, or your past glories or faults. You earn respect. Martin has not earned LL's respect and he's not likely to do it after benching a kid after his first NHL goal.

There is no excuse as to why he would bench LL other than he is 'young'. Which is a form of discrimination because up to that point, LL was a productive player in the game and drew you even.

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What has LL done to earn the right to be livid at Martin? his 8 games in the NHL?
What I know is that LL deserves more than 4min last night. It was a magical moment for him when he scored that goal and Martin reward him with a 2 small shifts (1min total) for the second half of the game.

Also, stop with the # of games in the NHL. What has that to do with the conversation. I don't give a **** about how many games JM coached in the NHL or how many game LL played in the NHL. You don't need to be an expert to see that LL did not deserved to be benched yesterday.

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Typical Hockeys Future....

Martin is an expert at bringing young guys along whether people would care to admit it or not. He's alot closer to the situation than any of you and he knows what he's doing...

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Young player take a penalty he's bench. I dont agree with it but that 's how Martin coach

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Typical Hockeys Future....

Martin is an expert at bringing young guys along whether people would care to admit it or not. He's alot closer to the situation than any of you and he knows what he's doing...
Just because one is in a position does not mean one is successful.

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Seriously, you're not far from plain making stuff up to bash Martin. You know what job Couturier has played for the Flyers before Giroux got injured and they were forced to play him up the lineup? As the 4th line center/Penalty kill specialist. Blair Betts replacement. Your praising a team in contrast to Montreal that's been doing exactly what you're bashing Montreal for.

And..........the point flew right over your head. Yep, missed it completely.

The point is not what Couturier is doing for the Flyers or whether he is a stud or if he is there because of injuries. Hell, I couldnt tell you how many points he has because I am not a fan of the Flyers.

The point that you missed completely is that even after taking a couple of penalties, Couturier was on the ice in the closing minutes. That is a coach showing respect for a young player and developing confidence for that player.

Do you think that Martin would have had Couturier on the ice after taking a couple of penalties? Remember, Martin benched Leblanc for scoring a goal.

Martin does not have a ****ing clue on how to develop young players into confident and productive hockey players.

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