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12-17-2011, 10:43 AM
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He was the coach that brought us to a first 3rd round in 18 years. Whether we think he had something or nothing to do with that....he was still the coach.

And everybody should be congratulated, even though you are paid to the job, to take the job of being the coach or GM of this team.

Congrats and Thanks JM.

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12-17-2011, 10:44 AM
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I appreciate Halak, Gill, Gorges, Subban, Hamrlik, Spacek, and Cammalleri for making Martin look amazing for a month and a half.

(not entirely true, I thought Martin did a very good job in the playoffs that year, but this is more fun)

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12-17-2011, 10:45 AM
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I'm not happy about this coaching change at all!!! Now the Habs are supposed to finish the season with an inexperienced coach. This move will be the sole reason the Habs miss the playoffs this season...mark my words.

Martin done a fine job coaching in Montreal. He outcoached Washington and Pittsburgh 2 years ago in the playoffs where the whole Habs roster bought into Martins system and lead them to the Conference finals. Now some players are refusing to buy into the system that worked in the past and Martin was the one that paid for it.

I would have been more happy to see a big trade or seeing Gaulthier getting fired instead of Martin being let go.

Maybe this will turn the season around for the Habs....but time will tell.

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You might not be able to tell because of his personality, but Martin was very passionate about hockey. Everything I've heard about him says that he lived for the game.

He seemed to lost the plot this year but he coached an above average team that made it to the ECF. Fans have been way to harsh on him and while I don't like his style of hockey, I wish him the best.

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12-17-2011, 10:47 AM
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if you doubt for one second that a guy like J.M would be coaching hockey wether he made 2M$ or 200$, you don't understand the passion that these men have for their profession.


there is much more to life & happiness than money, while no one should "feel sorry for him" since he does have his health and the financial security to take care of himself & his family very very comfortably, a bit of empathy for a person who just had their dream job taken away from them shouldn't be such a hard thing to comprehend, i would think.
If I shouldn`t feel sorry for him why I should have empathy.

A bit of a contradiction.

It sucks to a lose a job, but at the end of the day, I`ll reserve my Empathy Tank for something or someone else.

Good Luck JM!

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12-17-2011, 10:51 AM
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I think Martin was our best bet for winning hockey games. His experience and calm nature definitely helped everyone buy into a system that proved successful in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it wasn't an exciting system to watch as a fan (although we all appreciate winning). Hopefully, whoever is the new coach can find a way to win and get some offense out of Cammy, Gionta, Gomez, & Kost.

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12-17-2011, 10:57 AM
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*crickets*
Beat me to it.

Hiring JM was a mistake, I'm sure he's a great man outside the ring but hes just not the coach for this team.

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12-17-2011, 11:01 AM
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Thanks for the Conference Final. Now GTFO.
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Beneficiary of Lapierre, Moore, Gill, Gorges, Halak, and god-mode Cammalleri, and a popular system in which other coaches also employ. But couldn't actually coach worth a damn(any human resources guy would realize Martin is a failure of a leader)

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Beat me to it.

Hiring JM was a mistake, I'm sure he's a great man outside the ring but hes just not the coach for this team.
Martin was something the Habs lacked for quite a bit. He did good in the first two years but it's too bad it didn't work out this year, with tonnes of injuries to boot.

I wish him the best.

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12-17-2011, 11:14 AM
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If I shouldn`t feel sorry for him why I should have empathy.

A bit of a contradiction.

It sucks to a lose a job, but at the end of the day, I`ll reserve my Empathy Tank for something or someone else.

Good Luck JM!
empathy |ˈempəθē|
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12-17-2011, 11:16 AM
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Martin was something the Habs lacked for quite a bit. He did good in the first two years but it's too bad it didn't work out this year, with tonnes of injuries to boot.

I wish him the best.
What is it you believe the Habs lacked that JM brought ? Serious.

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12-17-2011, 11:23 AM
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I think overall Martin did a good job with what he had and brought structure to the team, which was needed, just like the veteran presence of Gill, Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri, Spacek and Hamrlik.

Without all of those guys and Martin this team would of been a train wreck.

Good luck Martin.

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12-17-2011, 11:29 AM
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What is it you believe the Habs lacked that JM brought ? Serious.
Experience and a structure. Habs used to keep promoting rookie coaches, Martin's experience was nice to have, regardless of what Habs fans think.

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12-17-2011, 11:32 AM
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Thank you JM for everything you did!

Even though I'm probably the only one who's gonna say thanks on this thread, I think you are a great coach and good luck on your next opportunity!

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12-17-2011, 11:35 AM
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just like the veteran presence of Gill, Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri, Spacek and Hamrlik.

Without all of those guys and Martin this team would of been a train wreck.
How can you say that? The money this team has tied up in those players would have been spent somewhere else, and should have had better results for the money thrown around.

Spacek, Gomez and Cammy have never produced like they were paid for. This isn't entirely JM's fault either, he has never had a team built for the playoffs or to compliment his small forwards.

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Martin done a fine job coaching in Montreal. He outcoached Washington and Pittsburgh 2 years ago in the playoffs where the whole Habs roster bought into Martins system and lead them to the Conference finals. Now some players are refusing to buy into the system that worked in the past and Martin was the one that paid for it.

Halak "outcoached" Washington and Pittsburgh...

But since this is supposed to be the JM appreciation thread and not the bashing one, I will say hummm... oh okay I got it! He didn't seem to be a bad person.

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I'm not happy about this coaching change at all!!! Now the Habs are supposed to finish the season with an inexperienced coach. This move will be the sole reason the Habs miss the playoffs this season...mark my words.

Martin done a fine job coaching in Montreal. He outcoached Washington and Pittsburgh 2 years ago in the playoffs where the whole Habs roster bought into Martins system and lead them to the Conference finals. Now some players are refusing to buy into the system that worked in the past and Martin was the one that paid for it.

I would have been more happy to see a big trade or seeing Gaulthier getting fired instead of Martin being let go.

Maybe this will turn the season around for the Habs....but time will tell.
They won because Halak was god, crashed the net, and were good on the power play. All of these things have been destroyed by Martin or "economic forces".

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12-17-2011, 11:44 AM
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I think habs overachieved since Jacques Martin was head coach.
Remember Carbo without Markov? We were miserable.

I wouldn't be surprise if we go down from here.

I don't think emotion is the solution like many are asking.

Gomez is the main problem me think.

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12-17-2011, 11:51 AM
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wrong guy was fired today.

Prediction: Habs GAA will balloon. This thread will get bumped.

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Thanks for finally getting fired.

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12-17-2011, 11:54 AM
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JM was NOT a total disaster.

Its just that the Habs could use a change in approach.

The benching of LL was baffling...

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Thanks for everything, Jacques. You were a great coach. I'm sorry that some of the prima donnas we have on our front lines aren't playing for you anymore. You did a great job in the most thankless position in the league.

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While I havent been quiet about wanting a change behind the bench in Montreal, I do think that Jacques Martin was a decent bench boss while here.
Problem was, when he was outcoached, he couldnt fight out of a paper bag. It was apparent Captain Kirk had a lot of the bag of tricks when he left...

I do want to make a point in here though about Martin. When Gretz formed the 2002 Gold Medal Mens Hockey Team,
Jacques Martin was brought in due to the depth that he had, and the knowledge he possessed in regards to the game. It was a great achievement to be thought of as an elite mind in this sport.

Gionta's comments arent BS IMO... I think he STILL had the team.

The problem is when the team doesnt give the performance one expects, year in, year out... While money, contracts, and changes are often had... trying to improve with no success, only heading downwards in the standings.

Coach Martin IMO just isn't a strong on the fly thinker IMO... I would love to keep him within the organization... strictly for his analyzing mind. Pro Scout?

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