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11-04-2003, 10:48 AM
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Philidelphia - Minnesota Proposal

TO MINNESOTA:

Mark Recchi, Marcus Ragnarsson

TO PHILIDELPHIA:

Pascal Dupuis, Alex Henry, 1st rounder in 2004, 3rd rounder in 2005

Philly gets a good young winger and nice picks, Minny gets some scoring and defensive help for a playoff run. ???

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11-04-2003, 10:59 AM
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Yes! From Philly

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11-04-2003, 11:02 AM
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No way in the world does Minny do that! I'm not a fan of either team, but one-sided proposals make me cringe.

Minny is a team that has been been strict in trying to build through the draft, why in the world give up a #1 pick for two players who won't be around in 2-3 years?

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brutal for the Wild, just brutal

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Horrible.. Minnesota's 1st should be worth more then that package alone.

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Start with a guy named Williams...

 
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I think Recchi would be a good addition to the Wild to add some veterin leadership. Not at the price of a first rounder though.

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11-04-2003, 11:55 AM
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well, i had a 2nd rounder instead of the 1st, but i thought i'd get ripped a hole on the other side, so i switched it. guys, Recchi has 13 pts in 11 games. not saying he'll keep up the pace to the letter, but he and Ragnarsson are a darn good package, one that would surely command more than Minnesota's 1st rounder alone...

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11-04-2003, 12:03 PM
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Recchi has a NTC I believe. Doesn't matter, he's a UFA after this year, and this deal would never happen.

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11-04-2003, 12:07 PM
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Why is it that every trade involving the Wild have them giving up young players for older players. The Wild give up what little talent they have for 3rd and 4th line "character players" plus picks. We already have way more grinders and muckers then one team can use. Here's one. How about giving us a #1 to take our garbage and has beens with bad contracts and on the downside of there careers off of our hands? Atleast it would have a better chance of happening.

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11-04-2003, 12:15 PM
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Why is it that every trade involving the Wild have them giving up young players for older players. The Wild give up what little talent they have for 3rd and 4th line "character players" plus picks. We already have way more grinders and muckers then one team can use. Here's one. How about giving us a #1 to take our garbage and has beens with bad contracts and on the downside of there careers off of our hands? Atleast it would have a better chance of happening.
Mark Recchi is not a 3rd or 4th line grinder. Thats just laughable.

The deal is clearly not going to happen though, and everyone pretty much agrees this is brutal for the Wild, because Recchi will be a UFA at the end of the year and makes 5 million dollars. Otherwise he is a better hockey player than anyone on your team but Gaborik and possibly one or two others.

The reason people want to trade for Minnesotas young players is because thats pretty much the only type of player you have that is any good. If you had one or two decent older players, people might make trade offers for them.

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11-04-2003, 12:16 PM
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Minnesota so gets ***** in this one.....1st/2nd/3rd, whatever...

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11-04-2003, 12:24 PM
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The Wild give up what little talent they have for 3rd and 4th line "character players" plus picks.
yeah, Mark Recchi with his 13 points in 11 games is a classic example of a 3rd line character player. sure. and the guy is 35, he's not 40. he's got several years of good hockey left, so don't act like this is the Adam Oates trade all over gain.

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How about giving us a #1 to take our garbage and has beens with bad contracts and on the downside of there careers off of our hands?
ok.

TO MINNESOTA:

Colorado's 1st rounder in 2004

TO COLORADO:

Sergei Zholtok, Jim Dowd, Brad Bombardir, Darby Hendrickson, Bill Muckalt, Jason Marshall


there's your 1st rounder, there's Colorado's depth. done deal, my friend.

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11-04-2003, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AvsGuy
TO MINNESOTA:

Mark Recchi, Marcus Ragnarsson

TO PHILIDELPHIA:

Pascal Dupuis, Alex Henry, 1st rounder in 2004, 3rd rounder in 2005

Philly gets a good young winger and nice picks, Minny gets some scoring and defensive help for a playoff run. ???
A first rounder--Minny would never give that up and tak those contracts

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11-04-2003, 12:30 PM
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A first rounder--Minny would never give that up and tak those contracts
that's the only glitch i can see in this trade. Minny takes on a lot of money with Recchi and Ragnarsson, and they'd have to see if it would be worth it.

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11-04-2003, 12:47 PM
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Yep, your right, Recchi's not a mucker and a grinder. He's an UFA to be that makes way more then the Wild would ever touch in the next 3 years+. The Wild don't get anything long term in this deal. A salary dump to a team that doesn't want salary and they lose Dupuis and a mid first rounder. That's $8,500,000.00 per year for both Ragnarson and Recchi. No thanks.

The deal for Colorado's 1st is good to go though.

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11-04-2003, 01:13 PM
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I think you underrate Pascal Dupuis. As of this moment he is unmoveable.

As for the 1st, Minnesota has done wonders picking up gems: Marian Gaborik, Pierre- Marc Bouchard, Brent Burns...Three of the four of their first rounders are on their team producing solid numbers.

As for the veterans, Minnesota has a couple that would be a solid asset to teams 3rd/4th lines.

 
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I think you underrate Pascal Dupuis. As of this moment he is unmoveable.

As for the 1st, Minnesota has done wonders picking up gems: Marian Gaborik, Pierre- Marc Bouchard, Brent Burns...Three of the four of their first rounders are on their team producing solid numbers.

As for the veterans, Minnesota has a couple that would be a solid asset to teams 3rd/4th lines.
What have Bouchard and Burns done to be gems?

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11-04-2003, 02:05 PM
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Let's see:

Burns has 4 points in the small amount of games he has played, would have more if he didn't have a seperated shoulder. He was also very unknown coming into the draft and made it on the team. He has helped Bouchard carry the weight of the offense for Minnesota.

Bouchard has wicked skills and has carried the offense for Minnesota with Gaborik and Dupuis sitting out. He's going to be someone to watch in years.

 
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