Eyeball11 had a great point about Det and Phi bringing guys up, letting them prove themselves on the 3rd line, and then get a bump when theyre ready. So many times ive heard "what you want Kadri coming up here and playing on the 3rd line?? Thats so stupid!!" Why is it stupid, its not like there is a rule that you cant playmake and score on the 3rd line. You just do that while learning at the NHL level. Its clearly worked for Det and Philly, but yeah...i guess who would want to mirror them?
While I'm glad you got this part (most don't) you overlooked the part where they all spent time dominating lesser leagues BEFORE they even got their 3rd line chance (in my world 3rd line would largely be used as a developmental line). Anyhoo, have a look:
Jeff Carter #11 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior + some AHL
21 years - NHL lower lines
Mike Richards #24 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior + some AHL
21 years - NHL lower lines
Claude Giroux #22 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior
21 years - AHL + NHL
James Van Riemsdyk #2 overall
18 years - Returned to college
19 years - Returned to college
20 years - NHL
Henrik Zetterberg #210 overall
20 years - Returned to SEL
21 years - Returned to SEL
22 years - NHL
Pavel Datsyuk #171 overall
19 years - Returned to Russia
20 years - Returned to Russia
21 years - Returned to Russia
22 years - Returned to Russia
23 years - NHL
Jiri Hudler #58 overall
19 years - Returned to Czech
20 years - Returned to AHL
21 years - Returned to AHL
22 years - Returned to AHL
23 years - NHL
There are many more examples but suffice to say, given Kadri's performance at every level and the fact he just recently turned 21, he is EXACTLY on schedule with where he should be and his organization is treating him EXACTLY the same as organizations who are successful at developing high end forwards treat their forwards.
In short, nothing to see here. My personal hope would be to see a line of guys like Colborne, Kadri and Frattin developing on the 3rd (though Bozak needs a spot too).
"the number worn by one of our most beloved Leafs from the last 30 years? "
Get your head out of your ***.
How long have you been watching Leaf hockey?
13 is the number we charish the most?
You realize you specifically quoted him as saying 30 years, right? I'm not even a big Sundin fan but how many Leafs are more cherished over the past 30 years?
"the number worn by one of our most beloved Leafs from the last 30 years? "
Get your head out of your ***.
How long have you been watching Leaf hockey?
Ok, kid, how many more players are as or more beloved that Sundin over the last 30 years? Careful when you think, don't hurt yourself.
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13 is the number we charish the most?
Are you asking this to yourself, because I didn't say the most in franchise history.
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Originally Posted by blader258
13 is one of the most... yes.
I honestly don't think he can read properly. He's gets so worked up in his troll-fests that he excludes meaningful words in his "arguments"
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Originally Posted by eyeball11
You realize you specifically quoted him as saying 30 years, right? I'm not even a big Sundin fan but how many Leafs are more cherished over the past 30 years?
Reading comprehension is a skill "agreement" lacks greatly, but I'm glad you caught onto that eyeball
The idiot is already setting Kadri up for failure to those who don't know better. Please, stop posting his articles so I could be ignorant to the fact that this hack is still writing and people are reading.
I wish he wore 91. Number means nothing. To me when there is a trade and a player cant have his original number; it looks funny and feel that they don't play the same. I know its stupid, but its how i feel ALRIGHT.
Yup #91, and yes means nothing.
History, is history. Mats wore #13 as a 19 year old.
13 shouldn't be worn for awhile, it has too much meaning to this generation of fans. Has someone worn 17 since Clark? No. Has someone worn 93 since Gilmour? No. It's out of respect for what these guys did for this city.
I'm a little young so I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but wasn't there a really long period of time after Sittler left that someone wore 27? I know Shayne Corson(sp?) and Brian Marchment both wore it in the early 00's.
Give Naz whatever number he wants. Burke has some weird things about him like this, remember he made Grabo change his number until Kessel came?
13 shouldn't be worn for awhile, it has too much meaning to this generation of fans. Has someone worn 17 since Clark? No. Has someone worn 93 since Gilmour? No. It's out of respect for what these guys did for this city.
I'm a little young so I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but wasn't there a really long period of time after Sittler left that someone wore 27? I know Shayne Corson(sp?) and Brian Marchment both wore it in the early 00's.
Give Naz whatever number he wants. Burke has some weird things about him like this, remember he made Grabo change his number until Kessel came?
I'm pretty sure that Cox just means to give Kadri a number that points to him as being a full time NHLer. If a number is as important to him as it is to some people here I would start to wonder about him but I doubt that it is.
While I'm glad you got this part (most don't) you overlooked the part where they all spent time dominating lesser leagues BEFORE they even got their 3rd line chance (in my world 3rd line would largely be used as a developmental line). Anyhoo, have a look:
Jeff Carter #11 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior + some AHL
21 years - NHL lower lines
Mike Richards #24 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior + some AHL
21 years - NHL lower lines
Claude Giroux #22 overall
19 years - Returned to junior
20 years - Returned to junior
21 years - AHL + NHL
James Van Riemsdyk #2 overall
18 years - Returned to college
19 years - Returned to college
20 years - NHL
Henrik Zetterberg #210 overall
20 years - Returned to SEL
21 years - Returned to SEL
22 years - NHL
Pavel Datsyuk #171 overall
19 years - Returned to Russia
20 years - Returned to Russia
21 years - Returned to Russia
22 years - Returned to Russia
23 years - NHL
Jiri Hudler #58 overall
19 years - Returned to Czech
20 years - Returned to AHL
21 years - Returned to AHL
22 years - Returned to AHL
23 years - NHL
There are many more examples but suffice to say, given Kadri's performance at every level and the fact he just recently turned 21, he is EXACTLY on schedule with where he should be and his organization is treating him EXACTLY the same as organizations who are successful at developing high end forwards treat their forwards.
In short, nothing to see here. My personal hope would be to see a line of guys like Colborne, Kadri and Frattin developing on the 3rd (though Bozak needs a spot too).
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. As quoted in Listening and Speaking : A Guide to Effective Oral Communication (1954) by Ralph G. Nichols and Thomas R. Lewis, p. 74
Leafs haven't retired numbers. I don't see why #13 (I know I know), or others should be prohibited. They should be able to wear any number they want, it's not like Kadri is replacing his name with "sundin."
13 shouldn't be worn for awhile, it has too much meaning to this generation of fans. Has someone worn 17 since Clark? No. Has someone worn 93 since Gilmour? No. It's out of respect for what these guys did for this city.
I'm a little young so I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but wasn't there a really long period of time after Sittler left that someone wore 27? I know Shayne Corson(sp?) and Brian Marchment both wore it in the early 00's.
Give Naz whatever number he wants. Burke has some weird things about him like this, remember he made Grabo change his number until Kessel came?
27
I thought one of the smuggled out Czech's got it as well? Just can't remember Frycer or Inachek's younger brother? Maybe it was Miroslav Ihnacak.
(no sarcasm)
