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Trade Talks Picking Up (Niittymaki, Ryan, Getzlaf?!?)

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12-23-2011, 09:14 PM
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Dude that's way too much for Getzlaf. Roy and Ennis for Getzlaf is fair though, or maybe even Roy and a 1st, but definitely less than what you said, lol.
Ya.... no. A 1st and Roy wouldn't get you Ryan, let alone Getzlaf.

Original proposal is definitely way closer then your counter.

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12-23-2011, 09:20 PM
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Well that should eliminate the Getzlaf rumors. Murray told GMs earlier in the year that he wasn't available (along with Perry), and now it's confirmed Murray has never breached the subject.

Stupid rumor in the 1st place. Title of this thread should be updated.
lol so because a GM denies it, it must be true? Cue Sutter denying a Phanuef trade, Holmgren denying Richards/Carter trade and I'm sure there are tons more you can find.

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12-23-2011, 09:25 PM
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so Nitty back to TB for a late pick?

has to be better than Roloson

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12-23-2011, 09:45 PM
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lol so because a GM denies it, it must be true? Cue Sutter denying a Phanuef trade, Holmgren denying Richards/Carter trade and I'm sure there are tons more you can find.
It was never a rumor. Dreger said it was speculation on his part.

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12-23-2011, 09:47 PM
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so Nitty back to TB for a late pick?

has to be better than Roloson
3rd or 4th and he's yours.

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12-23-2011, 09:53 PM
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Dubisnky, MDZ, Zuccarello, 1st. I feel like whoever puts a first in with decent supplementation would get Ryan. I really don't think firsts get thrown around as often as this board would suggest. By the way I'm completely opposed to trading Kreider. He will be the fastest player in the NHL when he cracks the lineup next season.

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12-23-2011, 09:58 PM
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3rd or 4th and he's yours.
I would be blown away if he was acquired for a 3rd. He is just not a good goal tender. 4th maybe just because Tampa is ridiculously desperate. I still don't see how Nitty solves anything though. Waste of a pick to be honest.

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12-23-2011, 09:59 PM
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Dubisnky, MDZ, Zuccarello, 1st. I feel like whoever puts a first in with decent supplementation would get Ryan. I really don't think firsts get thrown around as often as this board would suggest. By the way I'm completely opposed to trading Kreider. He will be the fastest player in the NHL when he cracks the lineup next season.
Can you put in something other than Zuccarello? He isn't needed here. The earliest we'd consider that offer is the draft, and only if someone isn't offering a better center and we aren't looking to draft someone like Grigorenko.

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Ya.... no. A 1st and Roy wouldn't get you Ryan, let alone Getzlaf.

Original proposal is definitely way closer then your counter.
so....what's wrong with Ennis and Roy then? Roy's point totals are already close to Getzlafs as it is, add in Ennis and that sounds like a good deal to me.

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Alex Burmistrov + Tobias Enstrom

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For?

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12-24-2011, 12:39 AM
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Dude that's way too much for Getzlaf. Roy and Ennis for Getzlaf is fair though, or maybe even Roy and a 1st, but definitely less than what you said, lol.
No, but being impartial I think Ennis+Pysyk/first+Roy is fair value

Including Pysyk and a first is overpayment imo, but it might be what is recquired to get getzlaf out of the Ducks. It would certainly be a "right package". I somehow doubt buffalo would offer that, though... But you guys definately know your team better than I do lol.

I just hope burky boy jumps on this!

Schenn/Aulie/Colborne/MacArthur/Kulemin/Grabovski/Franson/Liles/Gunnarsson/1st

are all things I would offer in a package. Whether they would be enough to tempt the Ducks is something else entirely.

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No, but being impartial I think Ennis+Pysyk/first+Roy is fair value

Including Pysyk and a first is overpayment imo, but it might be what is recquired to get getzlaf out of the Ducks. It would certainly be a "right package". I somehow doubt buffalo would offer that, though... But you guys definately know your team better than I do lol.

I just hope burky boy jumps on this!

Schenn/Aulie/Colborne/MacArthur/Kulemin/Grabovski/Franson/Liles/Gunnarsson/1st

are all things I would offer in a package. Whether they would be enough to tempt the Ducks is something else entirely.
Nope, not getting Getzlaf w/o giving up premium talent

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For?
Niittymaki.

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12-24-2011, 01:11 AM
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Nope, not getting Getzlaf w/o giving up premium talent
I think Ennis/Pysyk + 1st (2 firsts) as well as a decent 1C does well for anaheim.

Especially when you consider that the leafs are continually ridiculed for the kessel trade (where we gave up 2 firsts and a second), I think thats good value.

As for the leafs, I think

Schenn
Kulemin/Grabovski
Colborne
1st

is about fair.

Looking upon past trades, I have learned that premium talent doesnt generally get traded for premium talent... So dont expect a lot of elite players coming back in the scenario that getzlaf does, in fact does, traded. If you are lucky, you might get one.

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12-24-2011, 01:24 AM
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I'll assume you're talking about Getzlaf - no thanks. The Jets don't need to trade one of their top 2 defenseman and a young 2-way center with 60-70 pt potential (IMO) for someone who has one year left on their contract after this year and is a UFA after that.

Getzlaf for a year and a half isn't worth what many think he is unless whoever is getting him knows that he'll re-sign there. I'm not sure what his relationship with Burke is but that could be one such situation.


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12-24-2011, 01:33 AM
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I think Ennis/Pysyk + 1st (2 firsts) as well as a decent 1C does well for anaheim.

Especially when you consider that the leafs are continually ridiculed for the kessel trade (where we gave up 2 firsts and a second), I think thats good value.

As for the leafs, I think

Schenn
Kulemin/Grabovski
Colborne
1st

is about fair.

Looking upon past trades, I have learned that premium talent doesnt generally get traded for premium talent... So dont expect a lot of elite players coming back in the scenario that getzlaf does, in fact does, traded. If you are lucky, you might get one.
No the leafs trade is not fair, not even close. not one first liner or top pairing D in return?

Why would we want an impending FA? in Grabo or Kulemin? most of these Getzlaf ideas make no sense for us

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No the leafs trade is not fair, not even close. not one first liner or top pairing D in return?

Why would we want an impending FA? in Grabo or Kulemin? most of these Getzlaf ideas make no sense for us
But do you want quality depth and futures a, or just a swap? If you're getting an undisputed 1st liner or d-man, you'll likely be getting a top player, a pick, and a secondary player (<Kulemin/Grabo). In many cases it would likely be top player for top player and supplementary pick.

Is that what you guys need? If you're getting 100pts of production (good term contracts and/or RFA), and a pick/prospect -- that's a fairly substantial overpayment even for a 70+pt, dominant puck possession C...


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Getzlaf will not be traded unless an elite first line center is coming back, in which case, Anaheim would have to add to the deal.

Getzlaf is going nowhere.

End of Getzlaf discussion/

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Seriously, there's little to nothing that comes to mind that has Getzlaf leaving and Anaheim being a better team because of it. It just doesn't serve a purpose other than to have a different franchise player, which aren't going to be available unless it's just a pile of 1st round picks with solid odds for being multiple top 5 selections.

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Obviously u know 0 about Minnesota...

If Ducks were offered that package, Ducks run all the way to the bank.
Clutterbuck has been great this season with his physical presence and has shown offensive ability as well. Granlund is the best hockeyplayer outside NHL atm. 1st and 2nd in a top of this...
Not that I think Getzlaf will be traded, but are you actually saying Clutterbuck/Granlund/1st/2nd are overpayment for him? LOLLLL

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Not that I think Getzlaf will be traded, but are you actually saying Clutterbuck/Granlund/1st/2nd are overpayment for him? LOLLLL
Yes he is. And I think most people here including Wild fans would agree with us in thinking it is not overpayment.

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so Nitty back to TB for a late pick?

has to be better than Roloson
I was actually thinking about this too ha. Not sure if it is for a late pick though - Sharks would probably prefer a depth forward, and would add to get a high end 3rd liner.

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im still very much interested in ryan more than anyone really.

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lol so because a GM denies it, it must be true? Cue Sutter denying a Phanuef trade, Holmgren denying Richards/Carter trade and I'm sure there are tons more you can find.

This was never what people thought he was. Murray has never indicated to any GM that he would consider moving Getzlaf or Perry. In fact it was reported by several during the first round of Ryan rumors that neither of them were in play. All this came from someone telling Dregger from other teams that they think over time Getz may come available. Who do you believe the blogger who just says anything to generate interest for his audience? The people outside the organization who are just guessing names? Or the GM himself who said they weren't going anywhere a short time ago?

I can't believe the title hasn't been changed updating Dregger's recent comments about how he's heard nothing about him being shopped.


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