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12-24-2011, 11:00 AM
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Balgonie selects:

Murray Armstrong, C



Armstrong doesn't appear to have been a defensive or physical player, but he was a good offensive player. Armstrong's best five percentage seasons add up to 318, and that is using a formula that is very unforgiving to WW2 players. The best score by any other available pre-expansion forward is 277, so Armstrong stands out here, big time.

- In 1944, his points projected to 61 in a full season, which would be a very solid 11th

He was 9th in points in 1940, and 21st and 32nd in other seasons.

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The trade to New York rejuvenated Armstrong's career at the NHL level. He scored 32 goals over 3 seasons with the Americans' franchise. Like many others, his time in the big leagues was interrupted due to World War 11. During his military service, he skated with the Regina Army Cps.

Armstrong returned to the National Hockey League in 1943-44 with the Detroit Red Wings. This would be his final stop once the '45-46 season came to a conclusion. As a Leaf, American and Red Wing, he scored 67 goals and 121 assists for 188 points in 270 games.
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By 1935 he would turn professional in the Toronto Maple Leafs organization, but he would spend the bulk of four seasons playing in the minor leagues, most notably with the Syracuse Stars of the AHL. He did get into 12 games of NHL action with the Leafs, plus three more in the playoffs. He picked up one assist. The Leafs of the 1930s were a powerhouse team, despite their lack of playoff success.

His otherwise unnoteworthy career to this point got a major jolt of rejuvenation when he was traded to the New York Americans in 1939. Armstrong, likely because of his affiliation up state in Syracuse, was a throw in to complete a major trade. The Leafs moved Armstrong, Buzz Boll, Busher Jackson and Doc Romnes for Sweeney Schriner, the best left winger in the game.

Much to many people's surprise, Armstrong emerged as a very solid NHL citizen in 1939-40. Playing with Jackson and Lorne Carr he scored 16 goals and 36 points in 47 games, very solid numbers for the era.

Armstrong would have two more solid years with the Amerks before he committed to Canadian military efforts of World War II. He was stationed back in Regina, home of much of Canada's military training exercises, and continued to play in the Saskatchewan senior circuit.

When Armstrong returned from his one year hiatus he ended up in Detroit with the Red Wings. During his absence the NY Americans had closed up shop and the players' rights were dispersed around the league. Armstrong put in three solid seasons with the Red Wings, with his NHL career ending in 1946.
Pete Babando, LW



Babando was top-25 in points three times and his five best percentage scores add up to 241, which is tops among available pre-expansion wingers and better than most post-expansion wingers available too. Babando played on checking lines, so hopefully he has some glue guy qualities to go with the more more one-dimensional scorers who are available this late.

Babando scored a stanley cup winning goal in OT of game 7 in 1950.

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Pete Babando was a pretty solid hockey player for most of his National Hockey League career. However had he not scored one goal on April 23, 1950, he would most likely have vanished from memory as the years passed by. Instead, he is forever immortalized in hockey lore.

On that date the New York Rangers and Detroit Red Wings faced-off for the Stanley Cup. It was winner-take-all as the series was tied at 3 games a piece heading into the deciding 7th game. At the end of regulation time, the score matched the series as the teams were tied at 3. One of the all time classic games in NHL history, the game went into overtime but nothing was settled. A second overtime period was needed to decide the Stanley Cup championship.

After surviving a flurry of an attack by the Rangers where they almost scored, the Wings headed back up ice into the Rangers' zone. George Gee made a short pass to Babando, who also scored earlier in the game, who backhanded the puck on the net. Somehow, the puck eluded a screened Chuck Rayner, the Ranger goalie. At 8:30 of the second overtime period, the game was over and the Red Wings had won the Stanley Cup. In the process Pete Babando went from an otherwise unheard of skater to celebrated hero.

The humble Babando was usually too shy to talk about the goal much, but he was interviewed by The Hockey News 50 years later on the anniversary of the goal.

"We were at a faceoff in their end to Rayner's right," he recollected in an interview with Mike Gibb. "I was playing with Jacques Couture and George Gee, who took the faceoff. Usually, George had me stand behind him. But this time, he moved me over to the right and told me he was going to pull it that way. I had to take one stride and get it on my backhand. I let the shot go and it went in."

The Red Wings may have realized that Babando's status was at an all time high with that goal. In a quest to get a second straight Stanley Cup, Detroit GM peddled the new hero to the Chicago Blackhawks along with Dan Morrison, Al Dewsbury, Harry Lumley and Black Jack Stewart. The Wings got Bob Goldham, Gaye Stewart, Metro Prystai and Sugar Jim Henry in return. It was a big surprise to see the Wings make such drastic changes just a couple months after winning the Cup. It didn't work either, as the Toronto Maple Leafs won the 1951 Cup.

Babando, a native of Braeburn PA, had started his career with the Boston Bruins where he showed some offensive flash, scoring 23 goals in his rookie year (finishing second to Jim McFadden in Rookie of the Year voting) and 19 the year later before joining Detroit in the big Bill Quackenbush trade. Babando struggled royally in his only regular season with the Wings, scoring just 6 times. Of course he made up for it in the playoffs.

Babando returned to his usual steady production in Chicago. He scored 18 goals and a career high 37 points in his first year in Chicago. But his production slipped to 11 goals the following year. The Hawks were not a very good team during this time, and maybe too many unrealistic expectations were placed on the Stanley Cup hero.

The Hawks sold Babando in 1953 to, of all teams, the New York Rangers where he finished his NHL career scoring 4 goals and 8 points in 29 games. In total, Pete scored 159 points including 86 goals in 351 regular season games.


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12-24-2011, 11:01 AM
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Good bio on the reasons Kozevhnikov was left off the Soviet team though, VanI. That was one of the major things we had our speculations and ideas about but you confirmed them.

However yes he was selected many picks ago haha.


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Seventies, Crawford went in the ATD.

EDIT: Armstrong was the other guy I liked..damnit, was hoping he would slip to next pick.

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LW Tom McCarthy

399 points in 460GP
x1 NHL ASG ('83)
Minor AST votes in '84 (4 points for 8th place)

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Thanks to his stellar minor-league statistics, McCarthy was selected first overall in the junior draft, and the pressure that followed was incredible. In fact, when McCarthy first arrived in Oshawa he was greeted by a chorus of boos from the Generals fans. It was not so much a personal attack on McCarthy as it was the fans' verbal disapproval that team bypassed another young phenom by the name of Wayne Gretzky, who wound up going to Sault Ste. Marie. "I feel it everywhere I go," McCarthy said at the time. "Even at school people talked about it." Nonetheless, McCarthy soon gained the approval of the local fans with his own brand of excellent play. In 1977-78 McCarthy continued the torrid scoring pace he had enjoyed in the MTHL with the Generals, netting 43 goals and 93 points in 62 games to lead the team. He had such as good season that he was offered a lucrative contract by John Bassett to become one of the underage players on the WHA's Birmingham Bulls in 1978-79, but on the advice of his grandfather and agent Graham Stewart, felt he was not mentally prepared to turn professional and instead decided to return for a second season with the Generals while enrolling in Durham College where he studied sports administration. As good as his rookie season had been, McCarthy put up incredible numbers that year, drawing huge national attention scoring 69 goals and 144 points.

McCarthy was selected in the first round, tenth overall in the 1979 NHL Entry Draft by the Minnesota North Stars. General Manager Lou Nanne had his eye on McCarthy for most of the season and was amazed he was still available with the tenth pick. As a 19-year-old, with still a year of junior eligibility remaining, McCarthy was able to crack the Stars' starting lineup and in 68 games he responded with 16 goals and 36 points. At the start of the year McCarthy was quoted as saying "The decision to pass up the last year of junior was entirely up to me. I didn't have a clue what my chances would be of making the North Stars and I didn't know what to expect."

McCarthy's NHL career seemed like it was well under way after a successful rookie campaign. He remained with the team for five years and in his second season helped the club reach the Stanley Cup finals, where they were defeated by the New York Islanders. After playing 25 games in 1985-86 McCarthy was stricken by Bells Palsy and was forced to miss the rest of the season. The North Stars may have felt his career was over and traded him in May 1986 to the Boston Bruins for a third-round pick in 1986 and a second-round pick in 1987 which turned out to be xxx and xxx, respectively. McCarthy returned to hockey and played one full season with the Bruins, scoring 30 goals and 59 points in 68 games. He was back with the team for another seven games the following year. He played his last pro hockey season in Italy in 1988-89 with HC Asiago.
D Bob Woytowich

x1 NHL ASG ('70)
2 years of minor AST votes (1 vote in '68, 2 votes in '70)

Two-way defender logged a ton of minutes for often poor teams. He played on both specialty teams and should reprise those roles for Traktor.

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Bob Woytowich was certainly not the most gifted hockey player ever to skate in the NHL, but he was a solid defenseman who played a very smart game, which allowed him to stay in the pro ranks for close to 20 years. Not overly large, or fast, he compensated by reading plays before they unfolded.

Woytowich began his NHL career in 1964-65 with the Boston Bruins. In 21 games he scored two goals and ten assists. The following year he was on the team for 68 games, again scoring two goals but increasing his assists total to 17. Woytowich played another season with the Bruins before being moved out to the expansion Minnesota North Stars in 1967. In his only season with the Stars, Woytowich provided leadership on the team, primarily made up of young kids and castoffs. He collected four goals and 17 assists while spending 63 minutes in the penalty box.

In 1968-69, Woytowich joined the Pittsburgh Penguins where he would play for three full seasons and part of a fourth. His best NHL season from an offensive perspective was 1969-70 when he tallied 33 points on eight goals and 25 assists. Midway through the 1971-72 season, he went from one bad team to another, when he was shipped of to Los Angeles to play for the Kings for xxx on January 12.

Perhaps tired of playing for perennial doormats, Woytowich saw an opportunity to branch out with the arrival of the World Hockey Association. He signed with the Winnipeg Jets, playing with them for two seasons before moving on to the Indianapolis Racers in 1974-75. But, he was only there for about half a year before going back to the Jets later that season. In 1975-76, he returned to Indianapolis to play another 42 games.
C Vladimir Yurzinov

Soviet HOF
x1 USSR All-star ('63)
8-10-18 in 12 WC GP
231 goals in 472 Soviet league GP
Chidlovski gives him 23 goals in 54 USSR games

x2 WC Gold
x1 WC Bronze
x2 European Championship Gold
x1 European Championship silver

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Even though he was the star center of Dynamo Moscow in the 1960s, Yurzinov wasn't destined to become a full-fledged member of the nine-time World Championship-winning team. He was in the World Championship lineup only twice. Ironically, if the future goals-plus-assists system had been in place in 1963, Yurzinov would have been top scorer on the USSR nationals.
So why didn't he get into more international games?
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It is worth noting the character of that time, the lineups and morals that prevailed then. Anatoli Tarasov, the virtual ruler of the nationals, had whipped into shape a whole detachment of candidates from his own local CSKA club for the national lineup, capitalizing on the comptetive pride of each candidate. Tarasov virtually ignored the forwards from Arkady Chernyshev's club, even though as Dynamo coach he was the senior coach of the nationals. Dynamo's best forward, Vladimir Yurzinov, only made it to the World Championships twice. Tarasov also seemed to enjoy breaking up the talented forward lines of Spartak Moscow in order to weaken his competitors in the domestic championships.
This info was actually pulled out of the bio of the Mallard's Viktor Yakushev. Yakushev was one of the biggest benefactors of Tarasov's politics because his club, Lokomotiv Moscow, weren't challengers for the USSR league title. There's no question Yurzinov would have gotten into more international games without politics playing a role and he even led them in scoring in one of the tournaments! His third appearance only saw him play 2 games in '69 but he posted a 3-1-4 statline so it's clear he was just waiting to produce. I'm gonna try to take a look at scoring in the Soviet league later on and I think that should further show his value.


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The Bursa Janissaries select:

D/RW: Marty Howe
RW: Lasse Oksanen
D/RW: Valeri Nikitin

Bio's to come later.
I was so not impressed by Marty when we looked at him for the AAA. Maybe he's a good pick here though.... I dunno

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The Minutemen select 5'7 165 lbs. forward Art Somers, who led the New York Rangers in playoff assists in their 1933 Stanley Cup championship postseason after previously having been the PCHL scoring champion in 1929, winning the Memorial Cup back in 1921. At age 30, the 1933 Stanley Cup victory was during his third trip to the Stanley Cup Finals, having done so in New York the previous year and Chicago before that. He played left wing in Chicago and center later on. He was 2nd in Blackhawks assists, third in team points his rookie NHL season of 1929-30 but was scoreless in the team's Stanley Cup Finals playoff run his sophomore season, perhaps without much ice time, as he was traded that summer to New York where he immediately was 4th in team assists, top-5 in team points. The following season helped lead the Rangers to the cup. Following the championship season, he was again top-3 in team assists for the 1932-33 NHL season, but an infected jaw injury nearly ended his life and stunted his career. He had three significant regular seasons over five NHL years of work, and one exceptional championship postseason. If he had come to the NHL earlier in his career and/or if injury hadn't help end it, he might have been considered more of an all-time great.



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After helping the Hawks reach the Stanley Cup final in 1931, Somers was off to New York to play for the Broadway Blue Shirts. He played four seasons with the Rangers, although he essentially missed the 1933-34 season. A fractured jaw became infected and left Somers in grave condition. He was confined to a hospital room for a couple of weeks. His wife helped him pass the time "by consistently beating him at checkers."

Somers made a full come back the following season, playing in 41 games. But after going goalless with 5 assists, he gave up on the NHL.
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I'll select a guy I'm pretty sure has the most natural skill of anyone in the draft:

C/RW Claude Giroux



A guy with 3 60+ point seasons post-lockout, RW Maxim Afinogenov



and RW Pat Hughes to compliment the skills of Pat Hickey and Claude Giroux on my first line.


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pick 3 for the day is Penalty Killing Ace Lew Morrison, RW.

he might be the most offensively inept non-goon taken to this point, but he has a serious case as the best penalty killing winger remaining. I will make the case later today.

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The Minutemen select center Tom Cook, the Blackhawks number one center for four consecutive seasons beginning with his rookie season of 1929-30 and ending with the emergence of Romnes. Cook stormed into the NHL, leading the Blackhawks in points his rookie season, going on to five very good seasons in over seven consecutive complete seasons of NHL work. He finished second in team scoring his sophomore season, three points behind his winger Gottselig, tying the team lead in playoff assists as Chicago went to the Stanley Cup Finals. He was again 2nd in team scoring his third and fourth NHL seasons, having an impressive 110 points to lead all Blackhawks over his first four seasons (topping even Gottselig who had 107 points over that span). In his fifth season the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup but Cook dropped back to sixth in team points and only had one goal in the playoffs. In his sixth year he bounced back to have a career year in points, tying Gottselig for third in team assists, finishing fourth in team points, a clear second fiddle to Morenz at center. He had five significant NHL seasons in over seven years of work, and two Stanley Cup Final runs, the first of which he was front and center and productive in.



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Cook, at just 5'7" and 140 pounds, was small, even for that era, but would always stand his ground against opponents, the vast majority of whom were considerably bigger
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Tom Cook began his professional hockey career at the age of 21, playing with the Tulsa Oilers in 1928-29. He played in 39 games, scoring 22 goals and 33 points. In 1929-30, Cook was elevated to the ranks of the NHL when he joined the Chicago Blackhawks. In 41 games, he contributed 14 goals and 30 points. The next season, Cook scored 29 points and helped the Blackhawks reach the Stanley Cup finals where they lost the championship to the Montreal Canadiens three-games-to-two.
During the next two years, Cook suited up for all 48 Chicago games, scoring 24 goals and 51 points. In 1933-34, the club again reached the championship round, this time coming out on top, stopping Detroit three-games-to-one.
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The Minutemen select right winger Eddie Johnstone, the two-time NHL 30-goal scorer who is ranked 65th all-time in the book 100 Ranger Greats. In his career year of 1980-81 he had 30 goals, 68 points, 100 PIMs and was the lone Ranger in the NHL all-star game, notching a pair of assists. It was half-expected as he had scored 118 points the year his junior team made a Memorial Cup run and had 98 points as a 1977 AHL all-star. In his sophomore NHL season he was injured but came back in time to score 5 playoff goals on route to the Stanley Cup Finals. He would score multiple goals in three other postseasons in New York, tying the team lead in assists with 6 in 1982 and the team lead in goals with 4 in 1983 in two closely-fought divisional final losses to the Islanders dynasty. He has known intangibles and clutch play.



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... a feisty right-winger who could score and win the battles along the boards and in the corners. Most of his career was spent with the New York Rangers where his robust style made him a fan favourite at Madison Square Garden.
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As a rookie, Johnstone scored 26 points in 53 games for New York in 1977-78 and represented Canada at the Izvestia tournament in Moscow. He missed a fair bit of the 1978-79 season due to an injury but returned to score five goals in the playoffs as the Rangers reached the Stanley Cup final for the first time in seven years. The feisty right-winger was particularly effective when he scored four goals in quarter-final win over the Philadelphia Flyers.

Johnstone recorded consecutive 30-goal seasons in 1980-81 and 1981-82. In 1981 he was chosen to represent the Rangers in the NHL All-Star Game and set up Bill Barber with the first short-handed goal at the event in seven years.
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Quebec selects:

D Dennis Seidenberg



- Number 2 in ice time for a Stanley Cup Champion
- 157 points in 488 games

D Mats Waltin



1976 World Championship All-Star
1976 Guldpucken

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“I tell the team we need to play Mats Waltin hockey,” Andy Murray said.
What’s that again?
“I was a rookie coach in Switzerland and Mats Waltin was one of my players,” Murray explained. “We would have a lead and I would be on the bench yelling, ‘Get it in, shoot it in (the zone), don’t let them get it.” Finally Mats Waltin turned to me and said, ‘Coach, just relax. Isn’t it better if we just keep the puck and don’t give it to them?”
“So that’s the key, is to have the puck and continue attacking.”
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After searching available candidates, the federation picked Mats Waltin, a former star defenseman for Djurgarden Stockholm and the Swedish national team in the late 1970s. He is among the all-time great Swedish national team players with 236 national team games, placing Waltin sixth among all Swedish players.
From HFBoards thread "All Time Olympic Teams"

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Stoltz - Svedberg
Eldebrink - Waltin
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Ah, just saw a couple of old games with Mats Waltin playing; what a terrific skater he was! With those skating skills, he could have probably been more of an offensive force than he actually was.
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Yes, but he wasn't egoistic. That was his "problem". He was a true teamplayer and played by the roll and system the coach had him in.
D Bert-Ola Nordlander



1967 Guldpucken
6x Swedish All-Star

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Bert-Ola was an elegant on the ice. Skilful skating and perfect sense in the club was mated with a fighter's heart. His shot from the blue line was not those that went right through opponents, but they were always directed towards the target, where it often was a teammate and steered the puck.
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Bert-Ola was a defensive monster like no other. During his long career he played including four Olympic games. World Championship gold, he took in Colorado Springs 1962nd He was born in 1938 and played in Wifsta / Östrand seasons 1953-63. 1957 he became "the year's best athlete" in Timrå NS.

The age of 15 he played his first A-lagsmatch in W / Z. There he remained for 10 years and then left Timrå to play in the AIK 1963-1973. Spring 1999 was hoisted Bert-Ola AIK-shirt in the Globe. Together with Leif "Honken" Holmqvist, Roland Stoltz, Lasse Bjorn and Sven Tumba, he has been named one of Stockholm's top five players of all time.

He was a hot guy who could sometimes angry at properly. When he was visiting Timrå once dressed AIK-link happened to this: A home supporters teased and harassed AIK players during the match. Then jumped Bert-Ola up in the stands and began fighting with supporters. Afterwards, said Bert-Ola that patience defiance. There was also a one-off because he was not sent off frequently during his long career. Large Liraren was needed on the pitch ...

Bert-Ola was the club's big star. When he left Timrå so there were not many cheerful faces. He was the third major star to leave the club during those years.

Both were on Swedish hockey writer Kent Jonsson's HMs as top Swedish defencemen of all time:
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The Minutemen draft a Bottom-6 right winger Roger Jenkins, the two-time Stanley Cup champion known most for his defensive work but who led everyone with 6 assists in the 1938 championship-winning postseason. He played over seven full NHL seasons in the 1930's, he three best years coming in Chicago, helping the Blackhawks win it all in 1934 and 1938.



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The Minutemen select Bottom-6 left winger Edmond Bouchard, an offensive star in his days with the Quebec Montagnais, averaging over 2 goals per game for three seasons from 1916-1919 while in his mid-twenties. He was 29 year old by the time he joined the NHL with the Canadiens yet went on to play over seven full NHL seasons in his thirties. He was famously traded for Malone and Corbeau, showing how highly valued he must have been. He didn't disappoint his first season after the trade, finishing 2nd in NHL assists and 7th in PIMs for Hamilton, though he went on to play mostly a defensive role for the rest of his NHL career, making the trade look real lopsided.



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Edmond Bouchard was a versatile player who lined up at left wing and defence during a career that lasted more than 200 games in the 1920s. He was best known as a checker but also demonstrated astute passing on occasion.

Prior to the commencement of the 1922-23 schedule, Bouchard was sent to the Hamilton Tigers for Joe Malone and Bert Corbeau. He led the NHL with 12 assists in 24 games that year and remained with the club through the 1924-25 season when he was part of the player dispute with ownership over playoff money. Bouchard remained with the franchise after it was relocated to New York and named the Americans. Following a trade, he joined the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1928-29.
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Richard is a centre and Lundström is a winger, dont know where you get your information from.
Lundstrom is listed as a LW at SIHR, hockey-reference, legendsofhockey, nhl.com, and in his extensive Kings Of the Ice bio. hockeydb doesn't have a position listed.

Richard, in my TOI files, is listed as LW for every season he played, except the 1981 season where he is a RW. In 1981 when he had 100 points, he earned 17 all-star voting points as a RW and 5 as a LW, none as a center. SIHR, nhl.com, hockey-reference, all list him as LW.

if you check his teams season by season on hockey-reference, it goes LW, RW, LW, LW, LW, C, LW, RW, RW, C.

In the official handbook of pro hockey, he is listed as LW in 1974 and 1975, RW in 1976, LW in 1977, 1978, 1979, and 1980, C in 1981, and LW in 1982 and 1983.

hockeydb does list him as a center though.

conclusion: he played the majority of his career as a LW, and his finest season was as a RW. Clearly his least significant position (48 pts in 96 games if hr is to be believed) is center and he should not play there in an all-time context unless it's an injury juggling situation.

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Two-way defender logged a ton of minutes for often poor teams. He played on both specialty teams and should reprise those roles for Traktor.
Dang. There are quite a few guys like this out there, who played big roles for those bad expansion teams and then faded. I see now that he's better than them. I knew he averaged 24.77 minutes over 350 games... not too shabby. I didn't know about the ASG and the few all-star votes though.

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I was so not impressed by Marty when we looked at him for the AAA. Maybe he's a good pick here though.... I dunno
yeah, I see him as a useful spare, but I can't see him putting him in my starting lineup, even at this level.

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The Minutemen select 5'7 165 lbs. forward Art Somers
for comparison's sake:

Don Gallinger's best 5 percentage seasons:

77, 52, 47, 42, 18

Murray Armstrong: 84, 55, 52, 50, 43

Somers: 52, 50, 39, 19, 11.

Gallinger, it seems, is more or less just one decent season behind Armstrong (Armstrong's scores are just a teensy bit higher for the top-4 years).

Somers has a top-3 seasons that matches up fairly well with Gallinger and Armstrong's 2nd-4th best, but he lacks that one big season they have.

oh, and Tom Cook: 66, 60, 59, 50, 48. I would say that despite lacking Armstrong's one big season, he almost bridges the gap with his consistency.


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Now that I've drafted two Bottom-6 wingers,... might as well nab one more excellent one.

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The Minutemen select one of its captains-to-be in 6'1, 195 lbs. all-time great checking left winger Dave Lowry. A playoff hero with a Panthers-leading 10 goals, 17 points in Florida's 1996 Stanley Cup Finals run, Lowry would play in 111 NHL postseason games in all, and score 36 playoff points over his 18-year career. Lowry had five 15+ goal seasons in the NHL. He had been a 60-goal scoring all-star in juniors, but carved out a 1000+ NHL game, 1000+ PIMs career as a hard working checker in a Bottom-6 role. He was captain of the Calgary Flames for two seasons, retiring after a minor role in a Stanley Cup Finals run in 2004 at age 38.



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Dang. There are quite a few guys like this out there, who played big roles for those bad expansion teams and then faded. I see now that he's better than them. I knew he averaged 24.77 minutes over 350 games... not too shabby. I didn't know about the ASG and the few all-star votes though.


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where do you get those infos for ice time of this era?

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where do you get those infos for ice time of this era?
They're all listed in an excel spreadsheet in the files he linked last draft. Click the link and you'll be on that post.


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300 pts in 746 games , averaged 22:58 minutes of ice time per game.

In 02-03 , during Minnesota run to the conference finals , Kuba was the defenseman with the most ice-time on his team with an impressive 26:46 minutes per game ( 18 games )

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One thing about playoff ice time: games are longer so ice times tend to get up there as well. Just something to remember when quoting those figures.

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One thing about playoff ice time: games are longer so ice times tend to get up there as well. Just something to remember when quoting those figures.
True , but the most important part of my statement was more about the fact he had the most ice-time on his team.

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True , but the most important part of my statement was more about the fact he had the most ice-time on his team.
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