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12-13-2011, 03:59 AM
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Staal-Del Zotto
McDonagh-Girardi
Erixon-Sauer

would be fantastic come playoff time.

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12-24-2011, 02:54 PM
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Del Zotto now +22 and tied for 2nd best +/- in the league with 2 other players... Mind blowing considering the amount of minutes he has logged this season and the # of games he has played with less than ideal defensive partners in Erixon/Eminger/Stralman.... Props to Del Zotto!

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12-24-2011, 03:55 PM
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Del Zotto now +22 and tied for 2nd best +/- in the league with 2 other players... Mind blowing considering the amount of minutes he has logged this season and the # of games he has played with less than ideal defensive partners in Erixon/Eminger/Stralman.... Props to Del Zotto!
Even more mind blowing when I consider how young he is and how close he was to becoming an after thought/trade chip.

You read between the lines just a bit and it's not too hard to see how far his stock dropped last season. Here, of course, but also in the org. from the things one reads and hears.

Del Zotto has stunned a lot of folks. Some will admit it, most will not. Whether it's Torts, the coaches, the execs (Sather, Gorton, Clark,) or the legacies (Mess, Gravy), the Rangers have a way of helping troubled or bubble players straighten their $%^& out. It's amazing to me.

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Glad I wasn't one those who had written him off.

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Glad I wasn't one those who had written him off.
Same.

My confidence in Del Zotto / Gaborik last season never faltered even for a game.

and you guys gave me so much **** for it.

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12-24-2011, 04:34 PM
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+22 and top 20 in scoring for defensemen.

21 years old.

I remember during the summer how people were telling me Valentenko was going to blow Del Zotto out of the water...

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12-24-2011, 04:37 PM
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I was a supporter of Del Zotto this offseason, but I thought he was expandable since our defense is pretty stacked. Now, after watching him play end-to-end, he is such an important player to this year's team play.

Del Zotto for All Star?

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12-24-2011, 05:35 PM
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Del Zotto now +22 and tied for 2nd best +/- in the league with 2 other players... Mind blowing considering the amount of minutes he has logged this season and the # of games he has played with less than ideal defensive partners in Erixon/Eminger/Stralman.... Props to Del Zotto!
But MDZ is not a top-4 defenseman and can never develop into one.

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12-24-2011, 05:53 PM
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None of the defensemen who scored more than MDZ have as good a +/-. Almostall played more minutes. The kid has played first pair quality hockey so far this season.

If he can keep improving, he can definitely become an All Star.

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12-24-2011, 06:07 PM
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What? Del Zotto sucks..... He's a 21 year old plug..... He's too old to develop!

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Staal-Del Zotto
McDonagh-Girardi
Erixon-Sauer

would be fantastic come playoff time.

I love the idea of trying MDZ with Staal. His offense would flourish with a great defensive defenseman as his partner.

Also, what nobody mentions is that MDZ is very tough for an offensive defenseman. He isn't some precious flower that needs to be protected from everything.

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Staal-Del Zotto
McDonagh-Girardi
Erixon-Sauer

would be fantastic come playoff time.
I'm foaming at the mouth at the thought of this come playoff time.

Please get healthy Staal and Sauer.

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12-24-2011, 06:33 PM
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What? Del Zotto sucks..... He's a 21 year old plug..... He's too old to develop!
He is no longer shiny and new. Therefore he is useless.

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I'd flip the top two pairings until Staal gets back into the swing of it... But SICK defense. Whodathunkit?

The best thing about the Rangers - that this team was built via the draft. No more flack from other teams fans re: big free agent signings, and no more getting ticked at management because we knew as fans that this wasn't working. A true rebuild - we got what we asked for, and we were right.

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Del Zotto will be one of those perennial AHL all stars but never play an NHL game.

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He is no longer shiny and new. Therefore he is useless.
He's no Brian Leetch, so he's garbage...

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He's been very solid this year. So impressed with how the coaching staff has developed him. He's way better than Cam Fowler defensively and close to if not as good as him offensively. Seems like Fowler gets a lot more hype though. I'm very happy to have MDZ.

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He's been very solid this year. So impressed with how the coaching staff has developed him. He's way better than Cam Fowler defensively and close to if not as good as him offensively. Seems like Fowler gets a lot more hype though. I'm very happy to have MDZ.
Because all the HFBoards Keyboard Warriors just look at stats without watching the guy play. He's soft and a disaster in his own zone. Can he improve in those areas? Of course he can. But that is why he dropped in the draft and since then he's been pretty much as advertised, IMO. Fabulous offensive talent, defensive abilities are a major concern.

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Right now MDZ is leagues better than Fowler.

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He has upped the physical play too. He was owning Read all night in the Flyers game. Way to go MDZ

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His +/- was a little inflated earlier in the season and he was making some mistakes... but he's played much better lately. He's been pretty good 5-on-5 and he's really done well with Stepan and Richards on the point during what's become the best Ranger powerplay in the last 10 years. Glad to see the kid

doing well, I could see him




improving even more moving
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20 in the league is best PP we ve had in 10 years ? I think it was better post lockout if no mistaken .

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20 in the league is best PP we ve had in 10 years ? I think it was better post lockout if no mistaken .
It was pretty good when we had Jags, Straka and Nylander.

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He has upped the physical play too. He was owning Read all night in the Flyers game. Way to go MDZ
Haven't been able to watch the game yet but looking forward to it tomorrow.

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I like how when a player has a bad plus/minus, we dismiss the stat as useless (which it really is in most cases), but when one of our players has one of the best plus/minus ratings in the league, we get excited and devote a thread to it. Typical HF.

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I like how when a player has a bad plus/minus, we dismiss the stat as useless (which it really is in most cases), but when one of our players has one of the best plus/minus ratings in the league, we get excited and devote a thread to it. Typical HF.
I agree that the stat itself is somewhat misleading, but nobody can argue against the fact that Del Zotto has been fantastic on the defensive side of the puck this year. He's really playing excellent 3-zone hockey.

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