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12-24-2011, 11:17 PM
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He has Nothing to do with anybody's progress.

He was the worst defenseman I have ever seen play regularly for an extended period of times for the New York Rangers in 35 years of watching. Regardless of salary.

His leadership was nill when he was here and now he is some minor league mentor ? Give it a break.
The worst? Were you sleeping from 97-04? Hell, there were defensemen that have been worse since the lockout too (see Sandis Ozolinsh).

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12-25-2011, 01:53 AM
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As much as fans hated him, I've always liked Redden. We signed him when he was exiting his prime. He's taking the demotion like a professional and our prospects have cited him as a huge help in the development process. Wouldn't be surprised to see him behind the bench as a coach one day.
Wade Redden has always been a stand up guy who got caught in a bad situation because of our clueless general manager who wasn't paying attention to how far his career had slipped and still signed him to that ridiculous contract. His mentering of our young guys in hartford shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who knows what kind of a professional he is and how good a defenseman he was in his heyday with Ottawa.

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12-25-2011, 01:58 AM
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The worst? Were you sleeping from 97-04? Hell, there were defensemen that have been worse since the lockout too (see Sandis Ozolinsh).
You tell him pal! Redden was an excellent defenseman positionally and even offensively for a long time for those terrific Ottawa teams. We had plenty of defensemen on this team in the early years of Slats reign who were far worse then Redden.

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12-25-2011, 02:03 AM
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Redden was not that bad here at all.

He was a 2nd pairing defenseman at times, but most of the times, he played like a third pairing one (but a competent one). Plenty of players were worse. Are we forgetting players such as Erik Reitz, Matt Gilroy, and the Del Zotto of 10-11 already? - and these are just Redden era players.

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Although he only played 8 games for the Rangers, I thought Anders Eriksson was ridiculously bad.

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12-25-2011, 02:22 AM
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I was actually going to mention him, didn't think he played enough, though.

Another was Dmitri Kalinin.

The first Ranger player I ever truly despised.

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He's making $6.5M to play minor league hockey... I'd be a good scout about it too. I'm sure minor league hockey also takes much less of a toll on your body than the NHL.

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12-25-2011, 01:02 PM
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If it's contributing to the Pack sending these kids who shine it's probably worth every penny
with the joke that is the salary cap, if the rangers can take advantage of their wealth in other ways (like spending it on coaching and specialists, or vets for the AHL), then they should.

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Schoenfeld is down there too. J. J. Daigneault--both former long time NHL defensemen. Bickel's game is at least somewhat reminiscent of Schoenfeld's. I don't know if we can quantify Redden's impact on the other d-men there. Maybe he's having some but even if true he's probably not the only influence.

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The Hartford coaches, the Hartford beat writers, and multiple young Rangers prospects (McD, Kundratek, MDZ, etc) have all spoke about how Wade has mentored these guys at different times in the last 2 seasons.

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He has Nothing to do with anybody's progress.

He was the worst defenseman I have ever seen play regularly for an extended period of times for the New York Rangers in 35 years of watching. Regardless of salary.

His leadership was nill when he was here and now he is some minor league mentor ? Give it a break.
posts like this about wade redden make no sense to me. redden was bad, awful in fact when he played here, but to say he was the worst defenseman you ever saw play regularly is a joke. wade redden was a solid 3rd pairing guy who could eat up 10-12 minutes per game. his first year wasn't very good but he played well in the 09-10 season. you gotta remember that this guy WAS a +8 that year and his two years as a ranger culminated in a +3.

he was bad. don't get me wrong, he was definitely not a good player. he wouldn't scratch the starting lineup on this team with or without a salary cap (maybe with these injuries. MAYBE.) but if his salary was lower (and i mean much lower, like under a mil) there's no question that he would have stayed at least for one more season at the nhl level. it's unfortunate that sather thought he was worth anything close to his contract, but that doesn't mean the guy is completely worthless either.

and yes, despite the salary issue and everything else there's no question that redden's been a good influence on the younger guys. he was a solid player throughout his career and can teach the young defensemen exactly what it takes to play strong nhl defense. his value is definitely real and i'm glad to have him in our system.

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Redden hasn't stopped us from building a good team. As long as he's not a malcontent, which it seems like he isn't, I have no problem with him. Good on you, Wade.

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