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12-25-2011, 05:21 PM
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Armytage was a great pick. And I think Jiri was the Novak VI meant to draft in the AA instead of Eduard
Armytage was a Hedberg 2010 B-draft pick we never considered last draft; if we had, we would have nabbed him I'd like to think, though it was a process of discovery: the more I researched him, the better he looked!

Jiri Novak, however, we decided against early on in the AA, due in part to positioning. He's a C whereas Eduard is a RW, our team had McLea at center when we made the decision. We went with Jonsson for 2nd line C, and Drobny and Dey as extra forwards, so really the only mistake we could have made was choosing Jonsson over Jiri Novak for the 2nd line role, and Jiri is small and been injured by the rough international play of Canadians whereas Jonsson brought leadership. In hindsight, I'd draft Jiri over Jonsson, not over Eduard, if anything.

Doak is a longtime defensive defenseman on one of the top teams of the decade, with a boatload of intangibles and playoff experience, and quality references, not to mention great plus-minus. What is there not to like? I dunno his ice time, but it's the only statistic that could possibly explain why he isn't a MLD-comparable pick in a defensive defenseman 5/6 and pk role. He is comparable to several top-1000 picks stay-at-home defensemen.


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12-25-2011, 08:30 PM
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Sometimes bad picks deserve to fall through the floor in subsequent years. Three MLD 2010 picks have just been taken in the 2011 Single-A draft, and their worth is still questionable.

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The Bursa Janissaries are going to select three Russians with our next day of picks..bios still to come but I'll list the pick for now.

The two wingers of Alexander Uvarov's line, who had great chemistry with each other..

LW: Valentin Kuzin and RW: Yuri Krylov

Finally..I'll also take a defenseman..D: Dmitri Ukolov
Two of these three made their ATD sub-board debut last year on papershoes' Soviet-themed Cornwall Royals, a squad I had assassinated as having good, interesting, bad and ugly picks.

Wingers Kuzin and Krylov were among the 'ugly' picks:

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Kuzin on the 3rd line was in one Olympics and two world championships between 1954-56 in a limited international career, apparently run-of-the-mill Soviet of the era, not transcendent in any way.

Krylov was once a Soviet league all star and played both right wing and defense in the 1950s. He might be able to handle Bottom-6 role defensive responsibilities. Or he might not.
Ukolov I'd deemed 'interesting':
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2nd pairing dman Ukolov scored multiple goals at three world championships from the blueline in the 1950s. Sounds like he had offensive skills. More info desired please. Was only once a Soviet league all star, no IIHF all-star selections despite four world championships. Could be a real ugly pick if more info not forthcoming.
I really, really look forward to it when chaosrevolver says "bios still to come". I found nothing more on these guys when I had researched them. I think so many Soviets had been underappreciated (we've come a long way to giving them their due), but average Soviet internationals of the fifties were not great, and any one or two seasons of play in the 1950s Soviet domestic league is not even equivalent to citing today's ECHL in supporting a present day pick. So if a single Soviet league all-star selection from the 50s and three years on the national team is all they've got, they're fool's gold, even at this level, material for the Undrafteds thread or a B-draft or at least the bench as extra skaters.


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12-26-2011, 11:00 AM
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D Gerald Diduck

Big physical defender will pair up with Kaberle. They should compliment each other nicely with Diduck's physicality and Kaberle's puck-moving abilities.

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Rough and tumble Gerald Diduck was chosen in the first round of the 1983 Entry Draft, 16th overall by the New York Islanders. The big, bruising rearguard was considered a solid defensive defenseman who always managed to clear way of opposing forwards for his goaltender in the junior ranks, and the Islanders expected the same of him in the NHL.

After a short 32-game stint with the Montreal Canadiens at the start of the 1990-91 campaign, Diduck was shipped off to the Vancouver Canucks, where he patrolled the defense for the next four years. The 1991-92 season was a particularly ornery one, even by Diduck's standards, when he spent 229 minutes cooling his heels in the penalty box.

The closest he ever came to sipping champagne out of the Stanley Cup came while a member of the Canucks in 1993-94. The Cinderella Canucks advanced all the way to the Cup finals before losing a tough seven-game battle with the New York Rangers. Diduck played in all 24 Vancouver post-season games, scoring a goal and seven assists.
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Gerald also had a good package of skills to compliment his physical game. Gerald had tree trunks for legs, which meant a strong skating stride. He had good quickness and mobility. His most attractive finesse quality was his booming hard shot. Gerald was often used on the latter half of a power play because of his shot which often perplexed goalies. He was able to get the shot from the point off quickly too, although it made his shot erratic and therefore often unthreatening. Otherwise Gerald was fairly average in terms of skills. He wasn't a great puck-handler or playmaker. He was more into dumping the puck out his zone as opposed to creating a transitional breakout play. The way to play against Gerald was to forecheck him hard. When under pressure Gerald would make hurried decisions.

Gerald parts of 5 seasons on Canada's west coast, and really benefited from playing under coach Pat Quinn. Quinn, a former NHL blue line journeyman, had a way of getting the most out of his defensemen, including Diduck. Gerald played very aggressively upon his arrival in Vancouver, and as a result played a more important role on a team than he had at any other point in his NHL career.
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No bias here ...Scuderi is a solid PK guy here.

RW Craig Laughlin
x1 70 points, x4 50 points
x1 30 goals, x3 20 goals

Laughlin will probably play on my second line and bring his scoring punch and two-way ability to that line. His skillset would seem to work in the bottom six however so things could change.
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Craig Laughlin was a talented right-winger who played over 500 NHL games in the 1980s. He was a fine skater with a quick shot who topped the 20-goal mark three times in his career and was asset on the power play.

Laughlin's strong two-way play and productive work on the power play contributed to the Caps' emergence as solid NHL club in the '80s. He topped the 20-goal mark three times and often worked on the same line with Bob Carpenter and Alan Haworth. In February 1988, he was sent to the L.A. Kings for defenceman Grant Ledyard. Prior to the 1988-89 season, he signed as a free agent with the Toronto Maple Leafs. The club's struggles and apathy caused the veteran winger to voice his frustration in public. Laughlin retired after playing for Germany's Landshut club in 1989-90.


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12-26-2011, 11:33 AM
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12-26-2011, 11:41 AM
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12-26-2011, 11:46 AM
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36% for his career.

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Chris Kelly, C - best active penalty killer remaining, better resume than Jay McClement in quite a few ways

Art Hooper, C - played just three seasons but placed 1st and 4th in the best league in hockey in two of them. In 1902 he had 31% more points than 2nd place Russell Bowie!

Darren Veitch, D - I need an offensive D-man and he is about the only one out there who showed he was not just a specialist and could handle decent NHL minutes in all situations. Most career points among available D-men despite just 511 games.

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12-26-2011, 12:25 PM
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Darren Veitch, D - I need an offensive D-man and he is about the only one out there who showed he was not just a specialist and could handle decent NHL minutes in all situations. Most career points among available D-men despite just 511 games.
Solid pick here, Veitch was a name I seriously considered in the AA draft. Good numbers for his limited number of games.

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Montreal select Jeff Hackett G

Finished top 5 in save percentage 3 years in a row and another top 10.

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Montreal select James Wisniewski D

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I shouldn't have entered this draft , I can't follow the pace with decent picks at all.

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12-26-2011, 03:52 PM
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The Minutemen select its starting fourth line right winger, superpest Matthew Barnaby, who played on Mark Messier's wing for three years as a Ranger, a part time top-6 role player and regular bottom-6 performer, scoring 300 points in 834 NHL games, scoring 7 goals and 13 points in the 1998 NHL playoffs, leading all Sabres in points to Game 6 of the conference finals. He twice led the NHL in PIMs and seven times was top-10 in PIMs. He was listed as number one on TSN's top-10 all-time list of agitators, and certainly he had a reputation for getting under the skin of opponents. He was popular in his own dressing room and villified in the opponent's room.



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The best way to describe Matthew Barnaby as a player is as the game's ultimate pest. His style of play is in your face, aggressive to the point of infuriation. He's brash, cocky and arrogant. He taunts opposing players, talks trash, and fights just about anyone who will pay attention to him long enough to drop the gloves. There's very little middle ground where he's concerned. Barnaby's fans love him. Everyone else in and around the league can't stand him.
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The Minutemen select another pesty fourth liner in versatile Steve Ott, who has 1000+ PIMs in just over 500 NHL games, with an increasing role each of the nine seasons he has played. Over a three-year stretch he scored a decent 114 points, including 16 powerplay goals, not bad secondary scoring for a career Bottom-6 role player. He is renowned for often getting Iginla into the penalty box and for one particular shoving match with opposing coach Laviolette.



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Gets by on hard work and dogged determination. Excels at throwing opponents off their game with shift-disturbing precision. Can kill penalties, take face-offs, play a scoring role and line up at all three forward positions.
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As part of his pestiness, Ott learned and memorized offensive phrases in other languages to strategically annoy his opponents on the ice in a language they could understand.
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The league leader last year in excess defensive zone starts was Steve Ott of the Dallas Stars. He was on the ice for 326 more defensive zone faceoffs than offensive zone ones. This shows that he played a pretty tough defensive role for Dallas. Despite that, Steve Ott did not appear on a single Selke Trophy ballot. Are these facts inconsistent?

Ott played a pretty tough defensive role, but he did not receive recognition for it. Part of the problem is one of recognition. The Selke Trophy is voted upon largely by reputation. Increasingly, offensive totals are taken into account and Ott had a 12 goal, 32 point season which is not particularly spectacular.

He takes defensive faceoffs against all comers, without much concern for whether or not the opposition are the best scorers on the team or not. Ott is a pretty good faceoff man. He won 56.6% of the faceoffs he took in 2010/11. He was used in a defensive role in part because of his ability to take and win faceoffs. While he takes quite a few penalties, he also draws penalties with his aggressive play.
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Like Ott. Love Barnaby (just Ott with more GP). Not sure why one team needs both though!

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Chris Kelly, C - best active penalty killer remaining, better resume than Jay McClement in quite a few ways.
Kelly's been one of my favourite players since he entered the league. He's a very smart and hard-working player.

Basically every third line he's played on has been a good third line that can play a substantial defensive role successfully. In Ottawa, he paired with a teammate for a few years as an outstanding 3rd line/PK duo, before taking the lead as the team's best 3rd liner. He's very good at pressuring the points on the PK and creating shorthanded chances, and doesn't sacrifice his lane coverage in doing so.

Offensively, he doesn't have much in terms of hands or creativity. But he skates hard, goes to the right places, passes the puck and drives the net, so he always ends up with 10-15 goals and 25-35 points. Which is pretty decent for a 3rd liner who never plays on the PP.

He had a substantial 3rd line/PK role in Ottawa's 2007 finals run, and in Boston's 2011 Cup run. He's also an outstanding teammate and leader, from all accounts. I was disappointed when Ottawa traded him in part because I hoped he would be part of Ottawa's leadership core down the road.

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The Minutemen select 6'1 200 lbs. Al Smith, a standup goalie who likes to handle the puck and roam from his crease area. "The Bear" won the trophy for top netminder in the WHA in 1977-78 after already having played in three WHA all-star games. He had four 30+ win regular seasons (1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd in WHA wins those years), going 12-3 in the 1973 playoffs to win the championship. He is known to be physical and funny, useful intangibles.



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I was going to take Ott this round but thought he would be available in the next few rounds.

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Like Ott. Love Barnaby (just Ott with more GP). Not sure why one team needs both though!
Some teams roll three lines and use the fourth line sparingly. Ott will take a lot of defensive zone draws because of his face-off ability and Barnaby will play several shifts on a scoring line, as he did periodically throughout his career. The third fourth liner on this squad, Lowry, is a penalty killer who also will be on the ice for many defensive zone starts to check opposing wingers. So, basically, for the Minutemen, it's a utility fourth line that will play together maybe 5-7 minutes per game, if that.

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Quebec selects C Tim Taylor



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In 1926, Conn Smythe purchased the Toronto hockey club, then known as the St. Pats. Smythe immediately changed the team's name to the Maple Leafs. That same day Smythe, or more accurately Frank Selke, signed his first player, a 20-year-old centerman from Massachusetts named Carl Voss. For the sum of $1200 for the season, Voss became the first hockey player to become a Toronto Maple Leaf.

He enjoyed his best minor league seasons in Buffalo with the IAHL's Bisons. His best season came in 1931-32 when he led that league in scoring with 41 points in 46 games.

That fine season earned Voss a second look at the NHL level. In 1932-33 he attended the New York Rangers training camp and made the team. Despite scoring 2 goals and 3 points, Voss was sold to the Detroit Red Wings after only 10 games. Carl finished the season with 20 points in 38 games. That was good enough to make Carl Voss the first winner of the Calder Trophy as the NHL's rookie of the year.

Over the next two seasons Voss played in 36 games with the Wings before being traded to Ottawa. He played in only 40 games in Ottawa before the whole franchise moved to St. Louis in 1934, where he played a full 48 games. That season proved to be his best as he scored 13 goals and 31 points.

The St. Louis franchise folded after just one season and Voss was picked up by the New York Americans. He played there but struggled in 1935-36 before he joined the Montreal Maroons in 1936-37. He started the 1937-38 season in Montreal but ended it with the Chicago Black Hawks. That was a great move for Voss as the Hawks won the Stanley Cup that season. Voss chipped in with 3 goals and 5 point in 10 playoff games. His last goal was the Stanley Cup winner!

That goal proved to be his last in the NHL as he retired from active play after the playoffs. But hockey remained a huge part of his life. By 1950, Carl was named the NHL's first Referee-in-Chief. He did a thankless job of monitoring referee performance and development, and helped the NHL evolve into its glory years.

For his work in this field, Voss was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1974.

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The Bursa Janissaries select:

G: Alexander Sidelnikov
C: Russ Blinco
D: Bob Stewart

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Damn, really wanted Blinco to center the 3rd or 4th line. A decent two- way player, and an offensive resume in the demarco / gallinger / voss / somers neighbourhood, but in one of the nicer houses in that neighbourhood.

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Sometimes bad picks deserve to fall through the floor in subsequent years. Three MLD 2010 picks have just been taken in the 2011 Single-A draft, and their worth is still questionable.


Two of these three made their ATD sub-board debut last year on papershoes' Soviet-themed Cornwall Royals, a squad I had assassinated as having good, interesting, bad and ugly picks.

Wingers Kuzin and Krylov were among the 'ugly' picks:



Ukolov I'd deemed 'interesting':


I really, really look forward to it when chaosrevolver says "bios still to come". I found nothing more on these guys when I had researched them. I think so many Soviets had been underappreciated (we've come a long way to giving them their due), but average Soviet internationals of the fifties were not great, and any one or two seasons of play in the 1950s Soviet domestic league is not even equivalent to citing today's ECHL in supporting a present day pick. So if a single Soviet league all-star selection from the 50s and three years on the national team is all they've got, they're fool's gold, even at this level, material for the Undrafteds thread or a B-draft or at least the bench as extra skaters.
We'll see what I can find.

Big difference between the MLD and the A drafts..but I'll do some digging.

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Do you have the book Kings of the Ice Chaos? They have a little write up for each of those three Soviet guys, and I'd be glad to share the little bits of info it contains if you don't have it yourself.

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