Nill would be damn lucky to be GM of the most important hockey team in the world. People her underestimate how tempting this would be for any GM in hockey.
Yzerman was really disappointed he didnt get an interview, so i think there's some truth behind what you say.
But i also think, that this would also be nightmare for many others.
Depends on the character i think
I understand what you are saying. No one here would ever say anything other than that Roy was possibly our greatest goalie ever. I love Patrick our goalie and always will.
But he walked out on the MONTREAL CANADIENS. Richard never did, Beliveau never did, not one of our great french players ever walked out on the team, and they had some pretty bad coaches and years too. Not many, but some.
Roy walked out on the HABS. He sh-it on the Habs. End of story. Don't want him near this team.
Yes, but Roy and Tremblay had issues dating back to when the latter was a player. It's a pretty big slap in the face to your franchise's most talented player and most valuable asset to hire a rookie coach with whom he had a negative history. I'm sure if Tremblay had ben a guy like Bowman, Roy would have sucked it up like Lemieux did in Pittsburgh.
Do you guys really want to go down a road that's been traveled? typical Montreal. We haven't won in decades let's re-hash. Everyone forgets this guy can't handle youth. Re-build like Edmonton, we've sucked forever what's another 3 Years...
You know this is a discussion. How many coaches are we going to attack for putting bottom 6 players on the top 6 because of the GM? Carbo led the league in scoring, but lost because of lack of tuffness. What does that mean?
What do you think - honestly?
You have learned since you made your last mistake, no? I'm assuming Carbo has, assuming he DID make any big mistakes.
Even if we are stuck with a bunch of midgets and have to play defensive... CARBO WAS THE PREMIER SHUTDOWN CENTER OF HIS ERA --- AND HE WAS SMALL.... This is a smart hockey man.
I'm not happy about his comments when Therrien was coach. And now he's said it again. But to be honest, the man has delivered.
LOL Gretzky is basically the greatest there ever was. And he sucked at coaching. It's a different ball-gaming. And no I'd be pissed if he's at the helm. If he's willing to be asst. coach, I'm okay with that.
How about a coach that understands how stupid it is to implement a "roll 4 lines" strategy. Gionta, Cammalleri, Plekanecs - the players that make the big bucks - should have substantially more ice time than Darche et al, if management wants to win.
How about a coach that understands how stupid it is to implement a "roll 4 lines" strategy. Gionta, Cammalleri, Plekanecs - the players that make the big bucks - should have substantially more ice time than Darche et al, if management wants to win.
Right, stupid teams like Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver and Boston. Loading up and overpaying/overplaying 2 lines may get you into the playoffs, but will guarantee a quick exit. This isn't NHL12 - to win you need all 4 lines contributing. Look what happened when Chicago lost their depth last year, and now that they rebuilt it.
LOL Gretzky is basically the greatest there ever was. And he sucked at coaching. It's a different ball-gaming. And no I'd be pissed if he's at the helm. If he's willing to be asst. coach, I'm okay with that.
We need a coach that has sounds systems,innovative,that can adjust the strategy during games,good communicator,motivator,passionate & driven and has a strong desire to win and nothing less.
We can't get that does qualities from 1 person and if we could it would be hard to get them right now.
So what what we need to do is assemble a coaching team with complimenting talents and qualities I mentioned above...
Carbonneau has some of those qualities but he needs to be complimented with the things he's missing with the proper assistant coaches that would like to be part of a coaching team for a few years..
Egos would have to be check at the door and a group coaching committee would be used to achieve our goals as a team.
No. NOOOOOO. Maybe if he was actively coaching I'd consider it, but he had a "ok"showing coaching the U18 team and thats putting it mildly, and then coached chicoutimi for a couple months. Is that really someone you want thats about to step in as coach for the habs?
I actually liked Carbs a lot, I didn't think he was given the same shake as most other coaches, including JM.
Under the Gainey/Gauthier regime there is a growing list of coaches who were not given a fair shake because they were expected to perform miracles with substandard talent.
Does it really matter what coach is hired, if Gauthier/Gainey are allowed to stay on the coach will be the scapegoat in 2.5 years and we'll be having the same conversation.
Under the Gainey/Gauthier regime there is a growing list of coaches who were not given a fair shake because they were expected to perform miracles with substandard talent.
Does it really matter what coach is hired, if Gauthier/Gainey are allowed to stay on the coach will be the scapegoat in 2.5 years and we'll be having the same conversation.
The talent level is deffinately the first thing that needs to be addressed by a new leadership team...
Under the Gainey/Gauthier regime there is a growing list of coaches who were not given a fair shake because they were expected to perform miracles with substandard talent.
Does it really matter what coach is hired, if Gauthier/Gainey are allowed to stay on the coach will be the scapegoat in 2.5 years and we'll be having the same conversation.
I agree, in all honesty. The coach doesn't matter much, any NHL caliber coach is fine to me, so I don't really care about catering to the French Quebecois for example. They want the coach of the team to be french, so I would likely hire one.
The most important position, is the man upstairs building the roster. We haven't had a top tier GM in forever. No coach could make this team a contender. It's hard to admit for some, but the roster is poorly built, JM was doing the absolute best with this mediocre team, considering the injuries to this already poorly constructed club, he was likely overachieving.
A poor coach with a good team will win, a good coach with a poor team will lose. The roster is far more important than the coach, that's why I would give Patrick Roy a good look in the off season as coach, he can't really hurt the team any and he might bring some fire and passion back to this team that has lacked any kind of fire for awhile.
The focus needs to be on hiring a top tier GM who is capable of manipulating the cap and using our strengths to our advantage. Pierre Gauthier isn't up to the task. I'm convinced he needs to go next. Enough of these middle of the pack management groups, we need one of the best GM's, not some one who is ok. We need the best. We don't currently have the best or someone even in the top half of the league imo.
I agree, in all honesty. The coach doesn't matter much, any NHL caliber coach is fine to me, so I don't really care about catering to the French Quebecois for example. They want the coach of the team to be french, so I would likely hire one.
The most important position, is the man upstairs building the roster. We haven't had a top tier GM in forever. No coach could make this team a contender. It's hard to admit for some, but the roster is poorly built, JM was doing the absolute best with this mediocre team, considering the injuries to this already poorly constructed club, he was likely overachieving.
A poor coach with a good team will win, a good coach with a poor team will lose. The roster is far more important than the coach, that's why I would give Patrick Roy a good look in the off season as coach, he can't really hurt the team any and he might bring some fire and passion back to this team that has lacked any kind of fire for awhile.
The focus needs to be on hiring a top tier GM who is capable of manipulating the cap and using our strengths to our advantage. Pierre Gauthier isn't up to the task. I'm convinced he needs to go next. Enough of these middle of the pack management groups, we need one of the best GM's, not some one who is ok. We need the best. We don't currently have the best or someone even in the top half of the league imo.
God. people are hardheaded on this board. Bilingual coach doesn't mean a Francophone born in Quebec. It could be an English-Canadian (or American) who can speak or learn French
Right, stupid teams like Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver and Boston. Loading up and overpaying/overplaying 2 lines may get you into the playoffs, but will guarantee a quick exit. This isn't NHL12 - to win you need all 4 lines contributing. Look what happened when Chicago lost their depth last year, and now that they rebuilt it.
There are no shortcuts to winning.
Montreal's 4th line talent level is equal to that of Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver and Boston? Blunden & Nokelainen?
There's a reason that Nokelainen should play less minutes than Plekanec and it's because he's nowhere near as good.
You know this is a discussion. How many coaches are we going to attack for putting bottom 6 players on the top 6 because of the GM? Carbo led the league in scoring, but lost because of lack of tuffness. What does that mean?
What do you think - honestly?
You have learned since you made your last mistake, no? I'm assuming Carbo has, assuming he DID make any big mistakes.
Even if we are stuck with a bunch of midgets and have to play defensive... CARBO WAS THE PREMIER SHUTDOWN CENTER OF HIS ERA --- AND HE WAS SMALL.... This is a smart hockey man.
I'm not happy about his comments when Therrien was coach. And now he's said it again. But to be honest, the man has delivered.
God. people are hardheaded on this board. Bilingual coach doesn't mean a Francophone born in Quebec. It could be an English-Canadian (or American) who can speak or learn French
At this point, I don't think the "enthusiasts" would wait for the coach to take his time to learn the language.
No to Carbonneau. Great hockey player.....lousy behind the bench. I hated his last 3 months when we were giving up 40+ shots against regularly. He also didn't have control of the team.....gave the youngsters too much off-ice freedom that affected their play on the ice.
