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3 Stars & GBR: Game 34 vs. New York Islanders

View Poll Results: 3 Stars?
Artem Anisimov 2 1.28%
Brian Boyle 16 10.26%
Ryan Callahan 8 5.13%
Michael Del Zotto 138 88.46%
Brandon Dubinsky 5 3.21%
Marian Gaborik 6 3.85%
Dan Girardi 4 2.56%
Carl Hagelin 138 88.46%
Henrik Lundqvist 146 93.59%
Ryan McDonagh 2 1.28%
John Mitchell 7 4.49%
Brad Richards 3 1.92%
Derek Stepan 2 1.28%
Anton Stralman 6 3.85%
Other 4 2.56%
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12-27-2011, 01:42 AM
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Stralman and Boyle after blocking shots at the end of the 2nd period.

That was one of the gutsiest efforts I have seen in my 16 years of watching hockey.

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12-27-2011, 02:16 AM
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Its way more comfortable to say Calle than Carl in Swedish.. I guess.
Carl sound stiffer (more formal) than Calle in Swedish. Calling someone "Calle" is as if you know him. I guess you have taken "Calle" as your own now. The "e" is equal to your "y" in nicknames.

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12-27-2011, 02:31 AM
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I only watched a little of the game, since I was more focused on the Blues. But I had little doubt the Rangers would defeat the Islanders. And now they (Rangers) WERE almost the first in the league! Awesome. Too bad Chicago had an easy game tonight. Otherwise Rangers would be first. Keep working at it! Hopefully they'll beat the Hawks out of their spot.

I obviously hate the Blackhawks, as I am a Blues fan first and foremost. I certainly won't complain if the Rangers are first though!

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12-27-2011, 02:48 AM
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Hagelin is this years zuccarello; young, fresh and exciting..

I voted Henrik, he just had some awesome gamechanging saves tonight...

Mdz and Hagelin was not far behind though.

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12-27-2011, 02:56 AM
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Oh that makes sense. Do Swedes really need a nickname for Carl? It's already a pretty short name.
Swedes have nicknames on almost everyone,especially athletes.

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12-27-2011, 03:28 AM
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My 3 starts:
1. Hagelin
2. Bickel (Hes really impressed me)
3.. Lundqvist

Good: The shutout, Hagelin scoring
Bad: Hagelin not getting the trick
Redden: The sloppy play to end the 2nd
Who won the Brodway hat tonight?

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12-27-2011, 03:34 AM
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Who won the Brodway hat tonight?
Del Zotto, and it was well-deserved.

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12-27-2011, 03:34 AM
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MDZ got the hat.

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12-27-2011, 04:24 AM
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Is anyone here ever going to acknowledge that the Rangers seem to be outplayed at times because they play an outstandingly disciplined defensive system and it seems like no one on this team ever breaks their assignment? Seriously... ever player on the ice understands their assignment and sticks to it. That is an element of a successful hockey team. There are plenty of sequences where the opposing team seems to carry play in the Rangers' zone, but if you can find me a team that blocks more shots and disrupts the oppositions' offense more than the Rangers, I'd love to see it.
I have been saying time again, this is the number 1 reason for our success. People here have been pointing to individual players stepping up, like on the blueline with all the injuries. While inpart that might be true, a defensive system must entail the entire club. It's structure requires everyone to do their part. If not,... it would be like a 3 legged table that is bound to collapse. The wingers, centermen, and D-men must know their assignment away from the puck. This structure is all about supporting the D-men. Collapsing down low in support of them. This is why the opposition spends time in our zone. When the forwards collapse between the circles there is no pressure up high at the points. So while they may spend time in our zone, they get no good looks at the net with all the bodies in front.

One of the big improvements this year, is our play in the neutral zone. Not allowing them to gain the blueline. In this respect, Mickey D has been outstanding in breaking up plays. But again it's still a team effort to play a trap.

A defensive system trickles down from the top. The forwards support the D-men, making their life much easier, and the D-men support the goalie,... again making Hank's night less stressful.

When the system is working well, it's easier for callups, particularly on D, to step right in and do their part. While it might look like they are playing well beyond their skill set,... They're actually just keeping it simple and sticking to their assignment as the defensive structure dictates.

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12-27-2011, 06:39 AM
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Hagelin is this years zuccarello; young, fresh and exciting..
Well he's produced more than Zuc on the ice in terms of all around game

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12-27-2011, 07:55 AM
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people who think Richards is in a slump are plain crazy and looking for things to whine about.

as torts would say "watch the tape not the stat sheet". dude is playing well. the numbers will catch up over the next few games.

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12-27-2011, 08:13 AM
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Well he's produced more than Zuc on the ice in terms of all around game
Whats most impressive is Hagelin is doing his scoring when used in the second most defensive role in the team.. the kid starts his shifts in the defensive zone a LOT. Zuccarello was used as a one dimensional player and I think its because he is weak and terrible in the defensive end..

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12-27-2011, 08:30 AM
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Hags has looked waaaaay better than Zuc.

Hope he's not a flash in the pan, but I seriously doubt it.

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12-27-2011, 08:36 AM
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Hagelin is better than Zuccarello.

Better defensively. Scores. Doesn't get knocked off his skates easily. Faster.

Just a better all around player.

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Richards had a couple of good scoring opportunities early in this game. Stepan fed him with a nice cross ice pass that Nabokov made a really good save on. Goals will come. This happens over the course of a season.

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How I'm feeling right now. 1st place baby!!!


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Hagelin is better than Zuccarello.

Better defensively. Scores. Doesn't get knocked off his skates easily. Faster.

Just a better all around player.
This.

I like Zucc, but at this point it doesn't look like he is going to significantly gain in strength or speed, which is what he needs in order to earn himself an spot in the NHL. He gets too easily knocked off the puck, and he isn't fast enough to create space for himself. He'll tear up lesser leagues on talent alone, but his lack of physical gifts is what is going to prevent him from being an NHL player, at least on a team like the Rangers.

Hagelin, while not being a big guy himself, is MUCH harder to knock off the puck, has blazing speed, is a beast defensively, and goes to the dirty areas to score. He can slot in pretty much anywhere in the lineup and make a positive difference. Amazing value for a 6th round pick.

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This.

I like Zucc, but at this point it doesn't look like he is going to significantly gain in strength or speed, which is what he needs in order to earn himself an spot in the NHL. He gets too easily knocked off the puck, and he isn't fast enough to create space for himself. He'll tear up lesser leagues on talent alone, but his lack of physical gifts is what is going to prevent him from being an NHL player, at least on a team like the Rangers.

Hagelin, while not being a big guy himself, is MUCH harder to knock off the puck, has blazing speed, is a beast defensively, and goes to the dirty areas to score. He can slot in pretty much anywhere in the lineup and make a positive difference. Amazing value for a 6th round pick.
Absolutely. In a way it's not even fair to Zucc to compare him to Hagelin in terms of playing at the NHL level, because Hagelin had 4 years of development at Michigan while Zucc was playing a much, MUCH different brand of hockey in the SEL. Hags probably doesn't have the stick handling or skating skills of Zucc (except for straight up speed), but he knows how to play North American hockey on a small rink, and that's something that Zucc hasn't really been able to adapt to.

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Absolutely. In a way it's not even fair to Zucc to compare him to Hagelin in terms of playing at the NHL level, because Hagelin had 4 years of development at Michigan while Zucc was playing a much, MUCH different brand of hockey in the SEL. Hags probably doesn't have the stick handling or skating skills of Zucc (except for straight up speed), but he knows how to play North American hockey on a small rink, and that's something that Zucc hasn't really been able to adapt to.
I've been really impressed with Hagelin, not afraid to get dirty in the corners, has a good shot. He actually reminds more of Steven Thomas than Christian does. I don't follow prospects what was his projected upside?

I think adding some bulk in the off-season will make him even more of an asset, I don't see him going back to Hartford.

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The thing about Hagelin and sustaining the pace is that even if it drops a bit, he can easily be moved to any of the 3rd or 4th lines. Perhaps if and when that happens Dubi will have gotten some mojo back, and the team will simply take it in stride. There's a lot of depth here, and plenty of people who would not make a fool out of themselves on the 2nd line.

Hagelin has been on the ice for 1 goal against so far. Probably partly luck, but he knows his own zone very well.

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Vezina award is regular season performance only. Voting is done before the playoffs.
are you sure? because either you're wrong or i've been playing entirely too much Eastside Hockey Manager

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The Vezina is definitely a regular season award.

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are you sure? because either you're wrong or i've been playing entirely too much Eastside Hockey Manager
Regular season only, just like the other major awards.

The only post-season player award is the Conn Smythe.

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are you sure? because either you're wrong or i've been playing entirely too much Eastside Hockey Manager
EHM taking account the post-season has gotten Hank so many Vezina's in my game.

But yeah, it's just regular season.

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