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12-28-2011, 10:27 PM
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Well Holmgren came out and said nobody was interested in trading anyone, and then brought Walker up from the Phantoms. There hasn't even been a hint of scouting or potential trade discussions since then.

Besides, if they do trade for anyone they're going to have to give up players that the Flyer's front office isn't willing to part with (Schenn, Read, Couturier, Voracek, JVR, etc.)
It's pretty unreasonable for Carolina or Anaheim to expect to receive Schenn, Couturier, etc for a good (not great) defenseman whose contract is expiring at the end of the season.

2nd or 3rd
Bartulis
mid-late conditional pick

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Gleason

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12-28-2011, 10:34 PM
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I really like his game a lot. I also like Allen. They are both cap hit friendly and I do not think it would cost a lot to land one of them.
I like Allen too but Gleason is imo a lot better. Would fit like a glove on our team.

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12-28-2011, 10:37 PM
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How??
I think on paper our defense corps is good enough, even without Pronger. Unfortunately, on ice things don't quite match, but I doubt getting another defenseman will change that.

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12-28-2011, 10:59 PM
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I'd say if we were to go with people less than 3M, I'd say Grossman, Gleason, Peckham, Hannan or Gill. Gleason does sound good though. We'd have to dump some big enough salary onto them to get him. Walker, Marshall/Lilja and a 3rd? But I'm sure I'd get ragged on for the idea of quantity over quality for that trade.

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12-28-2011, 11:20 PM
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I'd say if we were to go with people less than 3M, I'd say Grossman, Gleason, Peckham, Hannan or Gill. Gleason does sound good though. We'd have to dump some big enough salary onto them to get him. Walker, Marshall/Lilja and a 3rd? But I'm sure I'd get ragged on for the idea of quantity over quality for that trade.
In a deal like that, Holmgren would have to sweeten the pot considerably to receive a player like Gleason and dump a cap anchor like Lilja. Not a top prospect, but perhaps Read or a 1st.

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12-29-2011, 12:14 AM
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12-29-2011, 12:31 AM
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I agree. They would pay MORE at the deadline and Timonen won't survive unless they get another load carrier pronto.
Excellent point re: Timonen. The Flyers need a minutes-eater to preserve Timonen from, arguably, a more reasonable Cup run next season.

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12-29-2011, 12:34 AM
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i would love to get a minute eating defenseman to talk the load off Timonen's TOI but I also dont want to overpay for one. Teams know the position the Flyers are in and I am we wouldnt get one cheap.

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12-29-2011, 07:58 AM
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To be honest, I'd be happy with a guy like Shane O'Brien or Greg Zanon. Both defensively aware and will strengthen the bottom pairing which is really all that's needed right now. Plus they are both on nice cap friendly expiring contracts.

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12-29-2011, 08:48 AM
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It's pretty unreasonable for Carolina or Anaheim to expect to receive Schenn, Couturier, etc for a good (not great) defenseman whose contract is expiring at the end of the season.

2nd or 3rd
Bartulis
mid-late conditional pick

for

Gleason
why would anyone want Bartulis?

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12-29-2011, 08:59 AM
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why would anyone want Bartulis?
Ez...b/c we don't want him. On these boards we expect teams to go dumpster diving.

Shelley the irrelevent for Gleason!

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12-29-2011, 09:12 AM
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Ez...b/c we don't want him. On these boards we expect teams to go dumpster diving.

Shelley the irrelevent for Gleason!
haaaaaaaah.

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Gleason or Brewer would work for me. Gleason brings a whole lot of snarl to his game and Brewer is just a good defensive presence who can eat up a ton of minutes and allow a guy like Carle to roam offensively.

The only problem with a Brewer is that he's signed long term, so you can bet Tampa would be looking for a first in return as well as a top prospect.

The problem with Gleason is that he's the type of defenseman the Flyers need - a gritty and nasty thumper who plays a defensive role - but as long as Holmgren's enamored with Carle, Gleason will end up walking.

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12-29-2011, 11:18 AM
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Ok, I have heard rumblings obviously about Gleason to Philly, and these two have been trading partners many times. Obviously the Canes need some type of wingers with some skill. I am sure you are all going to go bananas on me, but what else would it take:

Gleason and ?

for

Schenn

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12-29-2011, 11:25 AM
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Ok, I have heard rumblings obviously about Gleason to Philly, and these two have been trading partners many times. Obviously the Canes need some type of wingers with some skill. I am sure you are all going to go bananas on me, but what else would it take:

Gleason and ?

for

Schenn
Gleason+++

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12-29-2011, 11:32 AM
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Gleason+++
I am aware....any thoughts on what the +'s could be?

Ruutu, a prospect, picks.....obviously combos of those.

I am sure you dont want Ponikarovsky...that guy is not qualified to drive the Zam

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Gleason+++
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12-29-2011, 11:39 AM
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I am aware....any thoughts on what the +'s could be?

Ruutu, a prospect, picks.....obviously combos of those.

I am sure you dont want Ponikarovsky...that guy is not qualified to drive the Zam
Ryan Murphy

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12-29-2011, 12:19 PM
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Ok, I have heard rumblings obviously about Gleason to Philly, and these two have been trading partners many times. Obviously the Canes need some type of wingers with some skill. I am sure you are all going to go bananas on me, but what else would it take:

Gleason and ?

for

Schenn
Gleason and 2012 1st

for

Schenn

Anything short of your 1st as the "+" and it's not happening.

Gleason is a rental top-4 defenseman... his value is nowhere close to Schenn, who was the principal piece of the Richards deal.

If we want to be more realistic,

Gleason

for

2nd

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12-29-2011, 12:37 PM
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Short of a 1st? We likely don't trade Schenn for 2 1st rounders.

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12-29-2011, 12:57 PM
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I'd like to add Gleason AND Hannan.

Timonen-Coburn
Meszaros-Gleason
Carle-Hannan

Should be able to acquire them both without giving up anything substantial.

Gleason for 2nd + mid-level prospect

Hannan for 3rd + 4th+ mid-level prospect

Both are UFA's and we can have Bourdon/Gus step in full time next season.

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I think we can snag Gleason for a 2nd+prospect, no idea why Schenn was mentioned lol.

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Well Holmgren came out and said nobody was interested in trading anyone, and then brought Walker up from the Phantoms. There hasn't even been a hint of scouting or potential trade discussions since then.

Besides, if they do trade for anyone they're going to have to give up players that the Flyer's front office isn't willing to part with (Schenn, Read, Couturier, Voracek, JVR, etc.)
That's just not true. For a guy like Gleason, a pick and a minor prospect will do it. None of those gems you're referring to.

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12-29-2011, 02:02 PM
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I have no issue trading Schenn. He can't stay healthy and when playing, has failed to produce! Offensively the Flyers don't really need another forward so IMO the Flyers should move Scheen while he still have value for a younger top end D-man that they need.

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A guy I would absolutely love to get is Mark Fistric. He would probably cost more but he certainly knows how to lay a hit

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