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12-28-2011, 08:37 PM
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IMO the Montreal Impacts are the next big thing for summer sports. They are 1 superstar player away from serious media exposure.

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12-28-2011, 08:40 PM
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12-28-2011, 08:42 PM
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Only need a few guys with money to spend. You,d hope that a guy like PKP would invest in this. With a few others. I sure hope we'd get it back.

Frankly, I will NEVER forget the last Expos game with Brad Wilkerson crying. I mean, geez, this guy was there for 3 years. Not 10. And that American sure looked as sad as a lot of Quebecers. Which in the end made me believe that, while I already knew it, that we were making an incredibly bad mistake. And say what you want about Brochu, if that stadium is build, this team stays here. It's a ****in shame and that city should be ashamed of letting that sport go. That's amongst the reasons why it's so crazy about hockey in this town. With more sports, it would be less crazy.

Baseball was just great. A sport that you could do different stuff while it was playing. Really relaxing and that was playing every single night.

Yet, we're aiming right now at a team in the freakin Can-Am league with a stadium of 5000. I'm sorry but that's a waste of time. Might work, might not. But we shouldn't aim for this. And imagine if it doesn't work. Do you seriousl believe the MLB will take a look at us if we can't get 5000 people to watch this?

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12-28-2011, 08:48 PM
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IMO the Montreal Impacts are the next big thing for summer sports. They are 1 superstar player away from serious media exposure.
No, as long as those hockey-loving dinosaurs are deciding what has and what has not media exposure are there, it won't change much.

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12-28-2011, 08:56 PM
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To draw people's attention you need a winning team. The Expos weren't. However I still miss them.

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12-28-2011, 09:07 PM
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No, as long as those hockey-loving dinosaurs are deciding what has and what has not media exposure are there, it won't change much.
You'll see. There's a lot of immigrants in Quebec, Joey Saputo has a lot of money, there's nothing worthwhile in July here and the Habs obsession is coming to an end for a lot of people. I have faith soccer will be huge one day.

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12-28-2011, 09:10 PM
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Only need a few guys with money to spend. You,d hope that a guy like PKP would invest in this. With a few others. I sure hope we'd get it back.

Frankly, I will NEVER forget the last Expos game with Brad Wilkerson crying. I mean, geez, this guy was there for 3 years. Not 10. And that American sure looked as sad as a lot of Quebecers. Which in the end made me believe that, while I already knew it, that we were making an incredibly bad mistake. And say what you want about Brochu, if that stadium is build, this team stays here. It's a ****in shame and that city should be ashamed of letting that sport go. That's amongst the reasons why it's so crazy about hockey in this town. With more sports, it would be less crazy.

Baseball was just great. A sport that you could do different stuff while it was playing. Really relaxing and that was playing every single night.

Yet, we're aiming right now at a team in the freakin Can-Am league with a stadium of 5000. I'm sorry but that's a waste of time. Might work, might not. But we shouldn't aim for this. And imagine if it doesn't work. Do you seriousl believe the MLB will take a look at us if we can't get 5000 people to watch this?
I remember Quebec finance minister Bernard Landry said this at the time. :''baseball is a great sport but we will not pay for a stadium for a couple of Americans.''

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12-28-2011, 09:11 PM
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I think Montreal get's NFL before getting MLB back.
How hard can it be to support and NFL team anyway? Isn't the overwhelming majority of theit revenue froM TV rights rather than ticket sales like the NBA/NHL?

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12-28-2011, 09:39 PM
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You'll see. There's a lot of immigrants in Quebec, Joey Saputo has a lot of money, there's nothing worthwhile in July here and the Habs obsession is coming to an end for a lot of people. I have faith soccer will be huge one day.
I'm not denying it's gonna be big but media has been really slow to follow the growth of the sport.

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12-28-2011, 09:43 PM
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To draw people's attention you need a winning team. The Expos weren't. However I still miss them.
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Landry wanted the stadium. When you read the Brochu book, you learn that it was Lucien Bouchard who didn't want anything to do with the two bozos from NYC. Eventually, the same two bozos embezzled Miami-Dade city council into giving them the golden keys to a new stadium...in a market that is comatose. But the swines love it. They make millions and get a free stadium to boot. Bouchard was right in not giving them the keys to the stadium. And Brochu made millions because of them. He had no cash and made millions by selling it.

The other douches were the Québec inc. partners. Bunch of rats and small time business people.

In the end, the club was destined to fail: Brochu killed the Big O publicly (not the way to go in marketing, to say the least), the Québec inc. owners failed and the two rapists from NYC took everything away.

And no, MLB will never come back to Montreal, unless a billionaire decides to dish out the cash. It won't happen. Although MLB teams make money these days, it would cost about 1 BILLION to build a stadium AND buy a struggling team (like the Devil Rays, who are destined to leave Tampa).

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12-28-2011, 10:34 PM
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Anyone ever go to the baseball school in cote st luc called grand slam baseball school must have been 15 years ago i went with my brothers. They would teach you everything grade you give you report cards and techniques to prove your game. Every friday a mlb player would come talk to us we had pedro, larry walker, bill lee, Alot more i have balls signed they would sign autoraphs and you could ask questions... I miss the expos and baseball here played for almost 20 years i still go watch my brother play.. Good times!!!
Yeah, I did! Except I went back in '73 and '74, and we had Steve Renko (he taught me how to bunt properly) and a few other guys whose names escape me now. I still have the ball signed by the '73 Expos. I had no idea that school was still going in the 90's.

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12-28-2011, 11:00 PM
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I think Montreal get's NFL before getting MLB back.
How hard can it be to support and NFL team anyway? Isn't the overwhelming majority of theit revenue froM TV rights rather than ticket sales like the NBA/NHL?
Sure but why owners would want to split revenues with a marginal market like Montreal? It would also cost an arm and a leg to get a franchise.

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12-28-2011, 11:02 PM
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Not unless:

1-MLB has a hard salary cap
2-A new stadium is built in Montreal for baseball (too bad the Expos, Alouettes and Impact never thought of building a nice 45,000 seat multisport stadium downtown...)

So in other other words... not much chance.

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12-28-2011, 11:17 PM
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Baseball's salary system benefits teams that want to spend a lot and it also helps teams that don't want to spend, especially if they can develop a lot of decent young prospects through their farm system.

I would prefer to see a purpose built baseball park similar to the one they have in Milwaukee.

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12-28-2011, 11:24 PM
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It appears I can cross Donald Fehr off my list....

I'm not optimistic that it will ever happen, but I love hearing even the tiniest glimmer of hope. I need my Expos back.

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Rather have an NFL or NBA team.

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Yeah, I did! Except I went back in '73 and '74, and we had Steve Renko (he taught me how to bunt properly) and a few other guys whose names escape me now. I still have the ball signed by the '73 Expos. I had no idea that school was still going in the 90's.
was an amazing school!

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12-29-2011, 12:47 AM
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location...? RIGHT.

where the **** would a 500+ million dollar stadium be built?

blue bonnets, ideal location, is a no go... there are private plans scheduled to take over that land shortly.

east end? hell no... sorry east-enders, the money in this city doesn't want to go there.

I guess the only solution is for a rich investor to jump in quick, and try to squash the private dev. plans that are scheduled to take over the blue bonnet area... that'll probably be an expensive battle in itself.

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Not unless:

1-MLB has a hard salary cap
2-A new stadium is built in Montreal for baseball (too bad the Expos, Alouettes and Impact never thought of building a nice 45,000 seat multisport stadium downtown...)

So in other other words... not much chance.
Finally, someone that truly understands what is wrong with baseball.
MLB are a bunch of liers.
WE Expo fans were promised a hard cap when things started to go crazy.
Rich teams just bought all the good players every year and that left the Expos and a lot of other teams with no chance in hell to win anything.
NOT FAIR, when the Expos complained about this, MLB told all the small teams to hang in there the new CBA will have a level playing field.
That was how many years AGO?????????????????????????
And still no Hard cap????????????
LIERS ALL. Expos had become a feeder team for the BIG TEAMS, so why on earth should I pay money to go see a FIXED GAME??

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12-29-2011, 07:04 AM
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Blue Bonnets is really not the ideal place. It's as far from downtown than the current Olympic stadium. Plus it has the bottleneck of 1 small subway station far from it (at least, Pie-IX is steps away from the field, but the Anglos never understood that). Did you see what happened during the U2 concert? Now imagine half of that, 80 times per year. There is also not much alternative bus routes, at least Pie-IX/Sherbrooke is one of the main hub of the entire East STM.


I can see the current Griffintown proposal being expanded with a second deck and bleachers to say, 25000/30k if the momentum ever gets there, similar to what the Impact did. Create a stadium very close to the field, very open-ended to the streets and cityscape. Give access to the street like Yawkey way in Boston. We are a party city, try to create a party atmosphere during a Baseball game.

So basically, we're still 10 to 15 years before this "maybe" happens.

And _that_, and it's the big problem, is to give back to the Québécois the thrill of the game. Nobody cares about Baseball anymore everywhere in the province of Québec (and I've been in Baseball for 20 years). West-Ilanders can't support a Baseball team, it has to the be the 80% French Canadiens who do if it wants to be successfull.

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somebody explain to me what the hell is so wrong with the current olympic stadium in montreal? been to many expos games there and i honestly can't see why everyone is *****ing about it

inquiring minds want to know

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Nordiques will be back before baseball. Montreal is a ''one trick poney'' in sport, the Canadiens...
The Als sell out most games, and the Impact do well in ticket sales also.....

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Finally, someone that truly understands what is wrong with baseball.
MLB are a bunch of liers.
WE Expo fans were promised a hard cap when things started to go crazy.
Rich teams just bought all the good players every year and that left the Expos and a lot of other teams with no chance in hell to win anything.
NOT FAIR, when the Expos complained about this, MLB told all the small teams to hang in there the new CBA will have a level playing field.
That was how many years AGO?????????????????????????
And still no Hard cap????????????
LIERS ALL. Expos had become a feeder team for the BIG TEAMS, so why on earth should I pay money to go see a FIXED GAME??
Exactly...

Why even bother joining the MLB if your're going to end up like the Blue Jays... Before every season starts they KNOW they are not making the playoffs.

I heard they were going to expand the playoffs to 6 teams per league... It's a start but without a hard cap there is absolutely no pont at all for the moment...

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