PEI have traded Matthew Hobbs to Victoriaville for Benjamin Laliberte a 2nd, and a 6th,
Quite expensive isn't it for an average D overager!
an 18 YO former Gatineau 1st round pick, plus a 2nd round pick, plus a 6th round pick for a #4-5 at best on a good team....and I am not even talking a contender here.
Now the price has been set very high for the high end Ds like Carrier,JGL,Gormley,Ellis, Blain, etc....
they have a choice.. they can decide to buy moderately and look foolish like some teams have done in the past. Remember the Remparts the last time they hosted the mem cup.
And GM17, if you really are that naive and don't believe that St-John threw money at their new players, then there's not much more that can be said.
Are the owners in SJ loaded ?
Cause I know Quebec can throw a ton of money, just ask DuClair.
Teams will obviously not come out and say: we just gave 100 000$ for Coyle to come play with us for 4 months!!!
but it would be very naive for people to think that this kid will leave his team and come play in New Brunswick at 60$ (canadian) a week just for fun..
i think that's the most we'll get in terms of confirmation, but it would be naive to be all about it.. as it's something that hurts small market teams.
i'm not going to say Saint John didnt pay for Coyle to join them. But I was under the impression he became Academically ineligible to play NCAA. If that was the case he wouldnt have a whole lot of options.
With all the crap LGM has been spouting about the Sea Dogs, I can't imagine that he make any trade with Saint John, especially to help them fill one of their biggest needs.
Using 2-3 first round picks in the 2012 and/or 2013 drafts, I'd expect Mike Kelly to acquire either Gormley or Ellis ... and get another goalie, possibly Marcoux from BLB or Gusse from R-N.
Last edited by Doug023: 12-29-2011 at 02:55 PM.
Reason: added more info
Also if it's a precursor to a JGL why not just make the trade without acquiring Rimouski's 1st.
yeah i changed it cuz it doesn't make sense.
Since it's been hours and nothing came out, it's just a rumour at the moment. Plante usually doesn't come out with stuff like that, but it may have also been badly reported (as i don't go on twitter and that's where he would have written it).
Gravel was rated as a first round pick in the 2011 draft but slipped to Saint John in the 3rd round. However, he refused to report to Saint John's training camp, even for the 48 hour window to maintain his NCAA eligibility. He is currently playing for Quebec at the U17 championship. There are rumours that a deal for Jerome Gauthier-Leduc are dependant upon Gravel agreeing to report to Rimouski.
Oke is just 18 and still developing. He was rated as high as #44 by NHL central scouting but was not drafted in 2011. He did go to Dallas' rookie camp and seemed to start the season very well and has shown signs of becoming a real power forward in the QMJHL very soon.
Saint John now has 3 2012 first round picks. They traded their 2013 first round pick to BLB for Roussel. In addition to their own 2012 and the one from Moncton via Rimouski today, they also got a first round pick from Chicoutimi for Beauregard earlier this season. However, they had traded their 2nd and 3rd round picks in 2012 in earlier deals.
As for LGM, he has made comments in the press about Saint John trying to buy a championship by bringing in Charlie Coyle ... he feels that should have been blocked ... he thinks that teams liek Saint John, Quebec and Moncton should not be allowed to bring in free agents ... etc., etc.
Gravel was rated as a first round pick in the 2011 draft but slipped to Saint John in the 3rd round. However, he refused to report to Saint John's training camp, even for the 48 hour window to maintain his NCAA eligibility. He is currently playing for Quebec at the U17 championship. There are rumours that a deal for Jerome Gauthier-
Leduc are dependant upon Gravel agreeing to report to Rimouski.
Oke is just 18 and still developing. He was rated as high as #44 by NHL central scouting but was not drafted in 2011. He did go to
Dallas' rookie camp and seemed to start the season very well and has shown signs of becoming a real power forward in the QMJHL very
soon.
Saint John now has 3 2012 first
round picks. They traded their 2013 first round pick to BLB for Roussel. In addition to their own 2012 and the one from Moncton
via Rimouski today, they also got a first round pick from Chicoutimi for Beauregard earlier this season. However, they had traded their
2nd and 3rd round picks in 2012 in earlier deals.
As for LGM, he has made comments in the press about Saint John trying to buy a championship by bringing in Charlie Coyle ... he feels that should have been blocked ... he thinks that teams
liek Saint John, Quebec and Moncton should not be allowed to bring in free agents ... etc., etc.
Wow good to see that Rimouski is on the rise, now there's a typical junior team. Man will they be scary soon, I'm surprised that Gravel didn't even go for 48 hours, interesting, he would of made Saint John's roster no ?
Good for Oke he'll get more icetime on an up and coming team.
Saint John can now make a big move, things will get interesting, I think there will be a surprise buyer, there's plenty of high end talent available.
Also Barhrust has sucked for years, its their own fault.
That being said, SJ did develop their players, just like Quebec dies, it won't stop beside because the league needs it's prospects to come here.
Also Barhrust has sucked for years, its their own fault.
That being said, SJ did develop their players, just like Quebec dies, it won't stop beside because the league needs it's prospects to come here.
I don't know why you had to spew on Bathurst in that post!
They averaged 76 points per season in the last 6 years and were 1 period away from beating the Remparts in 06-07......
They had the best scoring tandem in the Q in Perreault/Beauregard in 06/07 and 07/08 and went for a run in 10-11 where they failed but had a very good regular season.
If I was you, I would look at many other franchises to pinpoint instead of that one.
No we do not have the money to lure in the Galievs,the Coyles, the Duclairs, the Ernes, etc, but we are not doing so bad.
From what I heard, there is no rumor of Gauthier-Leduc coming to Saint John. And if Gravel reports to Rimouski, then there is a 2nd or 3rd that comes back to Saint John (probably the one they sent in the deal).
Also Saint John went and got Monctons pick so they are pressing hard for Gormley. Maybe Irving will have to swallow his pride and deal him for the best package available which will probably be Saint John. If not, then hopefully Saint John can find a way to get their 1st rounder back next year from BLB, using some of these assets that have picked up.
Shawinigan clearly. To be so naive and don't believe that Shawinigan threw money at the memorial cup selection, then there's not much more that can be said
Any chance that Saint John thinks they have more or less what they need. Maybe just need to add a defender, and then they'll keep the other futures to avoid a drought?
Most Saint John fans feel that the Sea Dogs need to add to their goaltending. Overall, Corbeil has been very good ... but young Auger does not appear to be ready to carry a heavy load if Corbeil is injured.
Also, it appear that they want to add one more defenseman to the mix. The core D is pretty much the same, with Roussel replacing Gelinas but a replacement for Despres would put them over the top.
Mike Kelly has repeatedly told the press that he will not sell the farm just to add one more piece. He has stated that he wants to have a franchise that is competitive every year and able to go for it when things line up nicely.
[QUOTE=Doug023;41657341]Most Saint John fans feel that the Sea Dogs need to add to their goaltending. Overall, Corbeil has been very good ... but young Auger does not appear to be ready to carry a heavy load if Corbeil is injured.
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I have to disagree with you on Corbeil!
He was very weak Wednesday againt the Titan and is easily beaten by a good scoring team.
IMO you need both a goaltender and a backup which Corbeil could possibly be.
Hence the persistent rumour about the Dogs being interested in Robert Steeves.
They could use that first round pick and Oliver Cooper to lure LGM to make that trade
I don't know why you had to spew on Bathurst in that post!
They averaged 76 points per season in the last 6 years and were 1 period away from beating the Remparts in 06-07......
They had the best scoring tandem in the Q in Perreault/Beauregard in 06/07 and 07/08 and went for a
run in 10-11 where they failed but had a very good regular season.
If I was you, I would look at many other franchises to pinpoint instead of that one.
No we do not have the money to lure in the Galievs,the Coyles, the Duclairs, the Ernes, etc, but we are not doing so bad.
Yea its was harsh, they failed miserably last year in their run.
Atleast they're consistently average.
Baie-Comeau, wait that's fair, PEI, wait their GM's an idiot.
I don't know why you had to spew on Bathurst in that post!
They averaged 76 points per season in the last 6 years and were 1 period away from beating the Remparts in 06-07......
They had the best scoring tandem in the Q in Perreault/Beauregard in 06/07 and 07/08 and went for a run in 10-11 where they failed but had a very good regular season.
If I was you, I would look at many other franchises to pinpoint instead of that one.
No we do not have the money to lure in the Galievs,the Coyles, the Duclairs, the Ernes, etc, but we are not doing so bad.
I'm pretty sure you meant 05/06.
The score was 3-1 after 22 minutes, 4-1 after 36 minutes and it ended 8-1. That's clearly one period away from beating a team...
about it.. as it's something that hurts small market teams.
