The only reason why people don't have faith in Desharnais is because the organization has failed to deliver the big 1st line centre we've always needed.
The guy is on pace for a 50 point season in his first full year. He's far from being a problem to this club.
That's right. Where are all you now? I've been saying that all he needed was a chance to play as a top 2 center for two years. I had so many people tell me "It doesn't mean St-Louis can play in the NHL that every small player can," or "He's only Corey Locke V2.0."
Where are you now people? What's your argument now? He's only been lucky?
He's gaining experience and should even improve his play. I'm glad he got his chance. I look forward to see how he plays with a couple more seasons under his belt.
bro if DD is centering one of your top 2 lines you are fked
Like I said B4 if we have to rely on the midget to be a core piece of this team
good luck , nothing against him but for a team barely capable of making the playoffs
the development of Leblanc and Eller is more important to me than a small , defensivley challenged , who gets pushed off the puck player
we need front line talent not dd`s to move forward
Plekanec >>>>> Desharnais
Eller >>>>>> Desharnais
Nokalinen>>>>> Desharnais
Even Gomez >>>>> Desharnais
No legit team would have Desharnais on any of their 4 lines as a center. Maybe a winger? I doubt that too. Say what you want but he is in way over his head.
bang on
on a good team like Detroit he is the depth 13th forward , on us we treat him like a king ....a joke
The only reason why people don't have faith in Desharnais is because the organization has failed to deliver the big 1st line centre we've always needed.
The guy is on pace for a 50 point season in his first full year. He's far from being a problem to this club.
Where is it written that your 1st line center has to be big? That's the biggest myth in hockey. For every team that's won a cup with a 6'2" or bigger #1 center there are teams who's top center were 6' or below...Getzlaf Staal Toews vs Datsyuk Crosby Krejci.
The Habs current problem, at least the last 2 years is the play of the #2 center, last year Gomez sucked, this year he's injured and Eller and DD are trying to fill the gap. Both have shown flashes but are better suited as #3.
on a good team like Detroit he is the depth 13th forward , on us we treat him like a king ....a joke
A king? How so? His line was once the best line we had. And now suddenly, Cammalleri start scoring with him as a center.
I think some treat him like crap because of obscure reasons way more than some treat him as a king. We have the team that we have. So right now he belongs. We don't have an organizatoin to build a better team right now. Just be happy we have him on board.
1 goal, 1 assist. +1. HE'S CRAP! 4th scorer of our team. Amongst the leaders in +/-. Even with Pleks in faceoff %. Part of the best line we had this year. Not bad with Cammy and a guy destined to be send down. Again, this analysis can't be based on logic. But on other considerations....
A king? How so? His line was once the best line we had. And now suddenly, Cammalleri start scoring with him as a center.
I think some treat him like crap because of obscure reasons way more than some treat him as a king. We have the team that we have. So right now he belongs. We don't have an organizatoin to build a better team right now. Just be happy we have him on board.
1 goal, 1 assist. +1. HE'S CRAP! 4th scorer of our team. Amongst the leaders in +/-. Even with Pleks in faceoff %. Part of the best line we had this year. Not bad with Cammy and a guy destined to be send down. Again, this analysis can't be based on logic. But on other considerations....
Cammalleri is facing third defense pairings now. It's no secret as to why whoever goes with Desharnais produces, they go from tough defensive assignments to walk in the cake against third/fourth lines and bottom pairings. Desharnais is good depth but isn't a long term solution. We need our offense line to be great, not just good.
Where is it written that your 1st line center has to be big? That's the biggest myth in hockey. For every team that's won a cup with a 6'2" or bigger #1 center there are teams who's top center were 6' or below...Getzlaf Staal Toews vs Datsyuk Crosby Krejci.
The Habs current problem, at least the last 2 years is the play of the #2 center, last year Gomez sucked, this year he's injured and Eller and DD are trying to fill the gap. Both have shown flashes but are better suited as #3.
A big center is what has always been identified as what the team needs. And that's exactly one of the main problems in Montreal, we want a great #2 centre to play like a great #1 centre.
If the skill level is equal, I'd chose the big guy over the smaller one 10 times out of 10. Smaller players tend to get physically worn out more the season goes.
A king? How so? His line was once the best line we had. And now suddenly, Cammalleri start scoring with him as a center.
I think some treat him like crap because of obscure reasons way more than some treat him as a king. We have the team that we have. So right now he belongs. We don't have an organizatoin to build a better team right now. Just be happy we have him on board.
1 goal, 1 assist. +1. HE'S CRAP! 4th scorer of our team. Amongst the leaders in +/-. Even with Pleks in faceoff %. Part of the best line we had this year. Not bad with Cammy and a guy destined to be send down. Again, this analysis can't be based on logic. But on other considerations....
if he is your 4th scorer , God this team moving forward
bottom line is this ....he is not you answer on the top 6
with a lottery pick most likely this year , Eller, and Leblanc lets try to fit these pieces on the the top 6 at some point
we can knock Eller all we want , give him DD`s ice time, pp time , and the proper wingers I dont see how he cant put up the same points
a 50 point Eller is better than a 50 point DD hands down
but he is younger,bigger, faster , stronger , way better defender ,and kills penalties
no knock on DD , beat the odds , but I want a cup not mediocrity
he is not St.Louis , will never be Marchand , and is just ok
we need front line talent , hopefully at the draft we luck out cause the playoffs with 6 points out and chasing teams in front of us is fading
A big center is what has always been identified as what the team needs. And that's exactly one of the main problems in Montreal, we want a great #2 centre to play like a great #1 centre.
If the skill level is equal, I'd chose the big guy over the smaller one 10 times out of 10. Smaller players tend to get physically worn out more the season goes.
Except that big true #1 centers as mentioned above are not traded, they are drafted.
And why is Gomez at 7mil good enough to win the cup but DD who is outplaying him in every way for 800k is not?
All I'm saying is how anybody can complain about our 800k center who is out-producing our 7mil center is beyond me. Sure I would love a team filled with crosbys but in a salary cap era you have to build around pieces and DD presents our best value for dollar.
And yes Gomez was brought here to win the cup. Of course now we know better.
All I'm saying is how anybody can complain about our 800k center who is out-producing our 7mil center is beyond me. Sure I would love a team filled with crosbys but in a salary cap era you have to build around pieces and DD presents our best value for dollar.
And yes Gomez was brought here to win the cup. Of course now we know better.
So you want people to ***** more/only about gomez?
ill admit im not DD's biggest fan,i dont hate the kid but hes so small and kept taking time from Eller wich personally i think is much better then David but god damn that patience and pass on the cammy goal was just woww
Cammalleri is facing third defense pairings now. It's no secret as to why whoever goes with Desharnais produces, they go from tough defensive assignments to walk in the cake against third/fourth lines and bottom pairings. Desharnais is good depth but isn't a long term solution. We need our offense line to be great, not just good.
What are you talking about? Patches - DD - Cole have had the most offensive zone faceoffs and drawn the toughest opposition for most of the season.
This thread is beyond retarded. The players love DD. He's putting up a good number of points and yet we still find ways to hate on him. I'm glad you morons don't run this team.
For every games habs coach want to match DD line with the weak 1 with 3rd pairing def, there is a game on the road where the opponent's coach decide of matchup.
When DD,Cole and Pac were playing together, they were our hottest line. No way, the other coach gave them the easy matchup. Poeple see what they want to see.
Everyone who wanted Eller instead of DD with Cole and Max said how all the lines were working vs ottawa. Again its not true. All players played great but as a line not so much. Eller scored with Darche on pk and Cole scored with Plek on pp. So this line did not produce. They produced their only pt yesterday.
The only way I want to get rid of DD is if PG or other GM trade for a no1 center. And even then I would try him on the wing before. You dont get rid of a guy producing that much while getting paid 800 000$.
Last edited by Duramarier: 12-31-2011 at 01:46 AM.
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this team moving forward 
