I was an Avery supporter, mostly when the debate was Avery or Crusher Christensen. Now, Hagelin had earned himself a spot and Mitchell has been good. That is why this waiving of Avery does not bother me. They do now have players that are better than him. So he finishes the year in Hartford, then starts his new career in the fashion indistry next year.
I was definitely an Avery supporter the first go round and I like the guy and feel bad for him in a way (not too bad... I can't waste more than a second feeling bad for millionaires that get to play hockey for a living) but this time around there just isn't really room. I'd rather waive Rupp and just let Avery walk at the end of the season, to be honest, because I think Rupp BLOWS, but the point is moot. Hagelin is here to stay.
If he got his fair shake or not doesn't matter, he obviously is not part of the future. We have a good team right now, he doesn't make or break anything.
I love Avery. I think he's a solid contributor who's pretty versatile. Unfortunately for him, we have players who are more useful now. If it weren't for his cap hit I'd be happy to keep him up as an extra forward, but that space could be used at the deadline.
1.) Salary
2.) Ice time relative to that salary
3.) Can't PK. Doesn't play on the PP. Not a shootout specialist.
4.) Isn't terribly effective defending
5.) Other options on the team are cheaper and better defensively. All of you ragging on Boyle, Dubinksy, and even Prust aren't considering their ability to defend and defend a lead in the 3rd period.
I like Avery, but I don't think he's got a place on this team anymore.
Avery would carry a cap hit of approximately $1.025 million for a team claiming him. If he clears, it's likely that the Rangers would give him permission to attempt strike a deal to play the remainder of the season in the KHL rather than re-assign him to the AHL Whale.
GM Glen Sather, The Post has learned, had given Avery's agent, Pat Morris, permission to talk to NHL general managers during the Dec. 19-27 holiday roster freeze to try and find a landing spot for the winger, who is anathema to Rangers' head coach John Tortorella.
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I hope he finds some where else to play. Sean really is a good hockey player and can be an asset. It is a shame that his time with the Rangers is up. He will always be a favorite of mine and wish him nothing but the best.
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I feel like this is such an appropriate quote for these boards...
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"-Mark Twain
There's just no room on the roster. Avery is better then just a 4th, like ppl are claiming, but when you have cheaper alternatives with a broader skillswt, you keep them.
Honestly, Avery is probably a better top 9 then wolski, who is not good. He never had 65 points, he got 50 as the avs #1 winger then steadily regressed. Wish the rangers would give up on him already.
There's just no room on the roster. Avery is better then just a 4th, like ppl are claiming, but when you have cheaper alternatives with a broader skillswt, you keep them.
Honestly, Avery is probably a better top 9 then wolski, who is not good. He never had 65 points, he got 50 as the avs #1 winger then steadily regressed. Wish the rangers would give up on him already.
He did have 65 points, two seasons ago.
Avery is not better than Wolski and I ****ing hate Wolski.
Honestly, Avery is probably a better top 9 then wolski, who is not good. He never had 65 points, he got 50 as the avs #1 winger then steadily regressed. Wish the rangers would give up on him already.
Wolski had 65 points two seasons ago, split between Colorado and Phoenix.
I don't know why some people wanted this done after the WC. Torts was not going to play him in that game. Non-issue.
I was and am a big fan of Avery's because of what he has done on the ice in a Rangers sweater. The team has forged an identity without him and is competing for 1st in the division and conference. I think he could have helped this team given the chance but Torts didn't and the team continues to play well. Whether we could use his depth later in the season remains to be seen but Torts was never going to make Avery a part of the solution. Time to move on.
That's a great post. It's exactly I feel. I would like Sean to be part of the team but it's not happening and the whole board could have an argument for the next three weeks whether or not Sean is better than Boyle, Prust, Rupp, Mitchell etc. but a team can't just be about an individual even if what's happening to him seems unfair. The bottom line is Torts is the coach and that the team is playing for him and winning for him. If that were different then maybe criticism of this move would be more justified. Torts doesn't like him--has never liked him. That's fairly obvious. He doesn't want him on his team. Well Keenan didn't like Amonte. He didn't like Gartner. He got rid of them. Got a used up Glenn Anderson for Gartner who was still a legit 1st liner. But Glenn Anderson won a cup with us. And that's sometimes how **** goes. Wasn't fair but it worked.
I can't wait until next season so Avery is totally off the team. I'm so sick of seeing Avery threads..... It's not even about the player any more, it's about the fans who think he is better than 70% of the league.......
Reach much? I don't think anyone here thinks he's better than over 2/3 of the league. Just that he hasn't been given an honest chance by a coach who says we have better player on this team...which is clearly not true. Is he a top 6 forward? Absolutely not. But he's given the team a spark when needed and has been a net positive on the ice. At the end of the day though, all the players around his level will be gone soon enough so it's really just a short term issue...which is good news for Rangers fans.
Flyers should pick him up for the Winter Classic -- oh the drama.
I've been a big fan of Avery on the team. Rather have him than Christensen or Wojo but if Avery has to go to make room for Hags and Mitchell, well they earned the spots clearly....
Anytime prospects step up and beat you out of your job...
GM Glen Sather, The Post has learned, had given Avery's agent, Pat Morris, permission to talk to NHL general managers during the Dec. 19-27 holiday roster freeze to try and find a landing spot for the winger, who is anathema to Rangers' head coach John Tortorella.
That's interesting.... Slats is a good guy. Maybe they found him a new home.
Reach much? I don't think anyone here thinks he's better than over 2/3 of the league. Just that he hasn't been given an honest chance by a coach who says we have better player on this team...which is clearly not true. Is he a top 6 forward? Absolutely not. But he's given the team a spark when needed and has been a net positive on the ice. At the end of the day though, all the players around his level will be gone soon enough so it's really just a short term issue...which is good news for Rangers fans.
Who would you take out of the lineup for him right now? They just had a 5 game win streak without him.
Honestly, the only arguable is Rupp. IMO, Rupp brings something this team doesn't have while Avery brings more of the same. In the 5 minutes of icetime both will be getting each night, having Rupp's presence is at least a deterrent for other teams.
Additionally, Rupp is respected around the league, has showed he isn't just a goon and can actually play decently while being a true heavyweight.
Overall, the difference isn't major, but I'd rather have Rupp for 5 minutes a night than Avery.
Avery was great for the Rangers, he will always be a fan favorite and one of the most interesting players to come through NY in years. He embraced the team, city and fans and was so much fun to watch.
His time was going to end eventually and I wish him the best. I'm a diehard Avery fan, have his jersey and have met him a couple times. I hope he finds another team to play on in the NHL because he really seems to have toned down his game and antics and is still somewhat effective.
I want the best for Sean, but at the end of the day I'm a Rangers fan, not an Avery fan. This team doesn't need what he brings any longer, we are better without him and his unfortunate salary.
Ive said it here a million times, but everyone needs to **** already, WERE IN 1ST PLACE!!! Like seriously creaming over a guy with 7 mins ice time max. Yea you can say he deserves it more than EC, but EC will not see the light of day, the only reason Avery was sent down because his cap hit was more. As for saying he deserves the spot more than Rupp, Prust or Boyle, yea maybe Rupp, but prust and boyle both play important roles on the pk and have proven their worth. I love you aves, but were in first place and there is no more roster room...its done. Its all over, so everyone just shut up, stop wasting time here because theres no point to it, hes gone, its not logical to keep him there, hes a bottom line guy and oh WERE IN 1ST FREEKING PLACE AND COMPETEING FOR THE 1 SPOT IN THE CONFERENCE AFTER CHRISTMAS FOR THE 1ST TIME SINCE 94.
1.) Salary
2.) Ice time relative to that salary
3.) Can't PK. Doesn't play on the PP. Not a shootout specialist.
4.) Isn't terribly effective defending
5.) Other options on the team are cheaper and better defensively. All of you ragging on Boyle, Dubinksy, and even Prust aren't considering their ability to defend and defend a lead in the 3rd period.
I like Avery, but I don't think he's got a place on this team anymore.
I dispute 3 and 4. He defended well and was trusted by Renney in the final minute of key games, including playoff games vs Caps, hanging on to a one-goal lead. There is no way Avery played his way off this team. His below the hashmarks pressure game is exactly what Torts claims he wants, he puts pucks to the net which Torts is always clamoring for, he is 5 times quicker than good ol' Rupper (just the mention of his name makes Torts smile - "He's such an important part of our hockey club"). I don't care if Rupp is 6' 11'" . He shows up a half hour late to every spot on the ice.
Also, this team doesn't HAVE any shootout specialists except EC and don't get me started with him vs Sean. Avery's goal on his PS last year was a beauty.
Ive said it here a million times, but everyone needs to **** already, WERE IN 1ST PLACE!!! Like seriously creaming over a guy with 7 mins ice time max. Yea you can say he deserves it more than EC, but EC will not see the light of day, the only reason Avery was sent down because his cap hit was more. As for saying he deserves the spot more than Rupp, Prust or Boyle, yea maybe Rupp, but prust and boyle both play important roles on the pk and have proven their worth. I love you aves, but were in first place and there is no more roster room...its done. Its all over, so everyone just shut up, stop wasting time here because theres no point to it, hes gone, its not logical to keep him there, hes a bottom line guy and oh WERE IN 1ST FREEKING PLACE AND COMPETEING FOR THE 1 SPOT IN THE CONFERENCE AFTER CHRISTMAS FOR THE 1ST TIME SINCE 94.
Not true, I believe 2001-2002 was the last time when we had the FLY line. I think Draft Guru posted something on it the other day.
