The best thing you have ever said in "the goalie conversation"
THIS is what we have.
Bobrovsky wasn't the difference vs the Pens.
That's actually not what I was trying to say...
What I was trying to say is that certain defensive schemes aren't conducive to certain types of goalies.
Phoenix played a more defensively responsible scheme while Bryz was there and as a result, lateral movement and fighting through screens weren't quite as important and neither was ability to stop breakaways.
In Philadelphia, we have built our team to be the exact opposite. Our defensemen put the pressure on in the offensive zone and regularly attempt to jump into the play / pinch, often giving up odd man rushes. We also seem to give up an inordinate amount of turnovers off passes out of our own zone. As a result of this scheme, Laviolette's scheme, lateral movement, fighting through screens, and ability to stop breakaways are a premium for Flyers goalies.
Bob flat out does a better job of this than Bryz. And on top of all that, his positioning has been much more solid than Bryz's has this year. And he's out and out just wanted it more.
I still think Bryz can be successful here even being the slowest guy moving laterally that I've ever seen, but his positioning needs a lot of work... and that's an area he was supposed to already have down pat.
He needs to take a seat.
And btw, I out and out disagree with you about the Pittsburgh game. If Bryz is in net, I whole heartedly believe we lose that game. Bob had some pretty nifty lateral moves to stop shots that I feel Bryz would've never been capable of making. Bob was also quite good w/ his positioning, making sure some random shots didn't beat him on the short side (other than the Kennedy top-shelf rocket. Bob also adjusted to his mistakes, not going down early on a shot by Malkin after being beaten by Kennedy.
Bob deserves the start, Bryz deserves to ride the pine.
What I was trying to say is that certain defensive schemes aren't conducive to certain types of goalies.
Phoenix played a more defensively responsible scheme while Bryz was there and as a result, lateral movement and fighting through screens weren't quite as important and neither was ability to stop breakaways.
In Philadelphia, we have built our team to be the exact opposite. Our defensemen put the pressure on in the offensive zone and regularly attempt to jump into the play / pinch, often giving up odd man rushes. We also seem to give up an inordinate amount of turnovers off passes out of our own zone. As a result of this scheme, Laviolette's scheme, lateral movement, fighting through screens, and ability to stop breakaways are a premium for Flyers goalies.
Bob flat out does a better job of this than Bryz. And on top of all that, his positioning has been much more solid than Bryz's has this year. And he's out and out just wanted it more.
I still think Bryz can be successful here even being the slowest guy moving laterally that I've ever seen, but his positioning needs a lot of work... and that's an area he was supposed to already have down pat.
He needs to take a seat.
And btw, I out and out disagree with you about the Pittsburgh game. If Bryz is in net, I whole heartedly believe we lose that game. Bob had some pretty nifty lateral moves to stop shots that I feel Bryz would've never been capable of making. Bob was also quite good w/ his positioning, making sure some random shots didn't beat him on the short side (other than the Kennedy top-shelf rocket. Bob also adjusted to his mistakes, not going down early on a shot by Malkin after being beaten by Kennedy.
Bob deserves the start, Bryz deserves to ride the pine.
I didn't see a save that Bob made that I didn't think the current Bryz is capable of making.
I agree with you about the Flyers style of play, Bryz and MOST goalies are going to fail with it. I think BOB will fail with it, when the guys in front of them don't come to play. Because this system is more focused on getting offensive pressure than having 5 men back commited to D.
I have a very short list for goalies that I believe are true difference makers by themselves and complete goaltenders (athletes + mentally there) Flury, Thomas, and probably Ward. IMO EVERY other goalie in this league needs the team in front of them to give some effort.
Bob didn't need to be the difference vs. the Pens.
Bryzgalov didn't need to be the difference vs. all the opponents he's gotten destroyed by. Unfortunately he's been so bad that he's made himself the difference.
We don't need a goalie that makes spectacular saves, but we certainly need a goalie that doesn't put us down by 2 before we even start the game.
But honestly, for the sake of our franchise, I hope you're right. This better just be Bryzgalov warming up.
Bob actually got off to a spectacular start last season. He played a ton of games early and then managed to exhaust himself. Also, other teams figured him out after the first half.
He challenges the shooter more and has immensely improved his puck playing abilities. He still needs to stand up a bit more, but he is still young and has tons of potential to improve.
Now Bobo has his wife with him, so he wont be depressed. And hopefully he is accustomed to a longer season and 60+ starts. He must have been depleted at the end of last year.
Bobo deserves to play the WC and may give the team the best possibility to win now, but I still think we need to have some patience with Bryz.
Bryzgalov has been very inconsistent. When he's been on, he has been very good. He's also had bad nights and also had night's where the D hasn't been good in front of him, Tampa in particular. He does need to keep his game at a higher level consistently and can't be as up and down. The way some fans and the media are going on, it's all his fault and he's been bad all year. That's simply not accurate.
in fact all 3 of the goalies that played for us today, were excellent..
I couldn't believe the game ended 3-1 I was expecting something like a 21-16 barn-burner. All the goalies played great. Blackburn and Little were fresh off their careers, so at least they went head to head
Wyshynski, Dave Isaac, and Anthony San Flipo(sp?) all tweeting Bob will start the winter classic. Bryz responded with "we have a chance of winning now."
Wyshynski, Dave Isaac, and Anthony San Flipo(sp?) all tweeting Bob will start the winter classic. Bryz responded with "we have a chance of winning now."
Good move by Lavy, but to Bryz. Send this man to a shrink; he's ****ed in the head.
I was expecting something like a 21-16 barn-burner. 
All the goalies played great. Blackburn and Little were fresh off their careers, so at least they went head to head
to Bryz. Send this man to a shrink; he's ****ed in the head.
