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11-20-2011, 11:19 AM
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Did you pay any attention to Miro Mäkinen? I would be interested to hear about him and his brother Atte if anyone has seen them play.
I was actually very interested to see Miro Mäkinen playing before the match, however he didn´t play a whole lot yesterday, so I didn´t get a good look on him. His brother Atte didn´t play. However, he actually scored one goal today in a Jr. B match against HPK, which Jokerit won 7-1.

I believe that the Jr. C team of Jokerit plays in the hall that is next to the Jr. B team, so maybe I should go to watch them playing, because I´m sure that for example Mäkinen brothers get much more ice-time on a lower level.

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17-year-old goalie Janne Juvonen is making his SM-liiga debut against HIFK as Antti Rautiola was pulled after letting in 4 goals.

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I have a question about Toni Rajala. Where do you guys see his "ceiling"? Is he a future NHL player, KHL player or a very good SM-Liiga player? Before Granlund, he was supposed to be the future of Finnish hockey or something... Then he went to the WHL
Well, I think Rajalas development slowed down already, when he was 16-17 years old, already before he went to play to CHL. I think it was due the high school. But the CHL thing was just making the things worse. When he left for CHL, he was like one year late in expected development, but during the CHL season he lost some speed and creativity.
I have watched his games this season, but he has looked pretty invisible. In one game he scored one goal, but othervise did nothing. He's very fast skater and likes to hit a lot, but laks physical strenght. At the moment he looks like a third liner for Sm-liiga team. Needs to improve his effectivines with the puck(even if he had a two goal game in tuesday, playing with Niinimäki, who is top 3 passer in Sm-liiga).
I think Rajala needs to spend something like three years with Ilves, before it would be profitable to move to North America, but most likely he will spend 12-14 in AHL.
I can see him as an euro star after that, or maybe he makes the NHL.

Edit: Rajala had injuries in the end of 07-08 season and beginning of 08-09, wich of course slowed his development. Last season he had many injuries too and could'nt produce that well due the injuries. I think, he just needs some time to pick up his game. At the moment he looks maybe perimeter type of a player, but i'd say he's a self propelled sniper with that speed and playmaking ability.


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12-09-2011, 04:06 PM
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Just realised that Barkov has scored every single one of his 11 points in Tampere. That's kind of weird.

E: And to make it a little bit stranger, he's played only one game in Tampere where he hasn't scored a point, so he's a PPG player when playing there.

E2: I guess I sort of jinxed it. He got an assist in Turku today.


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12-11-2011, 03:46 PM
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96's in Jr.B
1. F - Miikka Pitkänen (KalPa) 12gp 6g+3a=9p
2. F - Waltteri Hopponen (Blues) 12gp 1g+8a=9p
3. F - Miro Ruokonen (HPK) 15gp 6g+1a=7p
4. F - Kasper Kapanen (KalPa) 14gp 1g+6a=7p
5. F - Roope Hintz (Ilves) 13gp 3g+3a=6p
6. F - Jonne Yliniemi (Pelicans) 13gp 3g+3a=6p
7. D - Kalle Tervo (Blues) 8gp 1g+5a=6p
8. F - Alex Levänen (Blues) 9gp 1g+5a=6p
9. D - Joni Tuulola (HPK) 13gp 1g+5a=6p
10. D - Eetu Sopanen (Pelicans) 16gp 1g+4a=5p
...
F - Julius Nättinen -97 (JYP) 7gp 2g+2a=4p
F - Joel Kiviranta (Jokerit) 4gp 1g+2a=3p
F - Sebastian Aho -97 (Kärpät) 4gp 0g+2a=2p

97's in Jr.C
1. F - Aleksi Saarela (Lukko) 13gp 15g+18a=33p
2. F - Sebastian Aho (Kärpät) 13gp 11g+15a=26p
3. F - Arttu Ruotsalainen (Kärpät) 13gp 11g+14a=25p
4. F - Julius Nättinen (JYP) 9gp 10g+14a=24p
5. F - Jesse Puljujärvi -98 (Kärpät) 10gp 1g+11a=12p
6. F - Joonas Niemelä (Blues) 11gp 3g+8a=11p
7. F - Joni Tuominen (Ilves) 13gp 6g+4a=10p
8. F - Sami Tamminen (KooKoo) 13gp 3g+6a=9p
9. F - Niko Peltonen (Lukko) 13gp 4g+4a=8p
10. F - Otto Rehelmä (Lukko) 10gp 2g+6a=8p
...
F - Aapeli Räsänen -98 (Tappara) 8gp 2g+1a=3p

97's in Jr.C 1-div
1. F - Jonne Tammela (YJK/JHT) 9gp 19g+20a=39p
2. F - Petrus Palmu (Jokipojat) 12gp 17g+13a=30p
3. F - Mikael Huhtala (Pelicans) 10gp 13g+11a=24p

98's in C2
1. F - Emil Oksanen (Blues MK) 13gp 19g+12a=31p
2. F - Joni Ikonen -99 (Blues MK) 12gp 10g+17a=27p
3. F - Patrik Laine (Tappara) 13gp 11g+15a=26p
4. F - Markus Nurmi (TPS) 14gp 9g+15a=24p
5. F - Tino Siren (TuTo) 14gp 7g+16a=23p
6. F - Jarkko Aalto (Jokerit) 12gp 7g+15a=22p
7. F - Artturi Toivola (HPK) 16gp 8g+12a=20p
8. F - Otto Mäkinen (Tappara) 11gp 12g+7a=19p
9. D - Urho Vaakanainen -99 (Jokipojat) 12gp 6g+11a=17p
10. F - Eetu Tuulola (HPK) 12gp 9g+7a=16p
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D - Miro Heiskanen -99 (Blues) 13gp 3g+5a=8p

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12-12-2011, 12:38 PM
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Thank you for those stats, Tormentor!

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I have only limited view on Matias Pulli but I really like this player. He has good puck skills, can jump at times into the offensive zone with the puck and has a good point shot. Not a big surprise is he struggles at times with bigger and stronger players that can also skate well. But Pulli has good poise with the puck and has been developing very nicely. If he will grow an inch or two and get stronger, it would definitely help his defensive game. Pulli´s offensive instincts are already very good.


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I have only limited view on Matias Pulli but I really like this player. He has good puck skills, can jump at times into the offensive zone with the puck and has a good point shot. Not a big surprise is he struggles at times with bigger and stronger players that can also skate well. But Pulli has good poise with the puck and has been developing very nicely. If he will grow an inch or two and get stronger, it would definitely help his defensive game. Pulli´s offensive instincts are already very good.
Yep, he’s an interesting prospect. He didn’t seem quite as convincing in a match that was played in a smaller practise rink, but on a bigger ice surface his skating, puck rushing and stickhandling combined is a great weapon.

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12-19-2011, 04:12 AM
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I have one question that would be best to ask here. It's been very interesting to follow the discussion on Finnish prospects.

But my question is that who are the top players in the Blues junior-A team? Juuso Ikonen is a player who has a lot of potential despite the fact that he is undersized. But who else are worth a look? At least Eetu Koivistoinen has already great size. In principal I could go to watch Blues' juniors much more often.

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I spoke to a guy playing with Juuso Ikonen and he said Ikonen is very strong and muscular for his size and likes to throw his body around even though he plays with much older guys. If he's able to grow a little bit, he could be a very good prospect.

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I spoke to a guy playing with Juuso Ikonen and he said Ikonen is very strong and muscular for his size and likes to throw his body around even though he plays with much older guys. If he's able to grow a little bit, he could be a very good prospect.
That what you wrote is good to know. Ikonen simply sounds like a very interesting prospect. Hopefully I'll be able to see him playing 5+ times this season so that I can get a good view on him. Also there are a couple of other 1995 born forwards who I'd like to see playing more (Aleksi Ainali from HIFK, Artturi Lehkonen from TPS etc.)

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But my question is that who are the top players in the Blues junior-A team? Juuso Ikonen is a player who has a lot of potential despite the fact that he is undersized. But who else are worth a look? At least Eetu Koivistoinen has already great size. In principal I could go to watch Blues' juniors much more often.
I’ve seen Koivistoinen only briefly this season so hard to say much, but he seemed a bit sloppy out there. Many of his passes were slightly off target and overall he wasn’t the most effective/useful player for his team. He has size, some skill and skating ability so in theory he’s a good prospect, but it remains to be seen if he has enough sharpness to put it altogether on a high level. Will be interesting to see what he can do next year, I guess it hasn’t been the easiest year for him with the injury and being sent back and forth between Jr.A and Jr.B.

Niklas Tikkinen is probably the top first time draft eligible prospect from Blues, a tad smallish defenseman who used to play forward. As of now he’s perhaps not the most convincing defenseman defensively, but naturally has some ability to support the offensive game. My guess at the moment would be that he won’t be drafted although it’s not out of the question if some teams might see him as a 6th/7th rounder. Nevertheless it’s worth checking him out.

I haven’t paid much attention to defenseman Ahti Oksanen, but he might be worth a look if you see Blues. He’s an overager who missed a big part of last season due to an injury, but seems to be doing well this season. He’s 2nd in scoring for defensemen in Jr.A and also has the 2nd best +/- stat.

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Also there are a couple of other 1995 born forwards who I'd like to see playing more (Aleksi Ainali from HIFK, Artturi Lehkonen from TPS etc.)
Ainali is a sturdy/heavily built guy for his age, but he has heavy feet. He has some trouble keeping up with the pace of the game in Jr.A, this is quite evident during quick turnovers or when he needs to pivot. His character and strength level should make him a fairly interesting prospect next year, but it’s too early to tell whether he’ll be drafted or not. Lehkonen is definitely one of the top Finns for next year, should have 1st/2nd round potential if he grows some height and keeps developing properly.

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Thank you Tormentor. Very appreciated.

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Jokerit will host Amway Cup at Pirkkola, Helsinki 28-30.12 for -97 (C2) teams (HIFK, Blues, Tappara, TPS, Machoki (Budapest), Silver Lions (St.Petersburg, -98 team?), Southern district -97, Southern district -98 and Jokerit). Most of the best -97 born players from the areas. Also most of the -98 born players to see who play with C2 teams in series.

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98's (and 99's) in "C2-nuorten valtakunnallinen sarja":
1. F - Emil Oksanen (Blues MK) 17gp 21g+14a=35p
2. F - Joni Ikonen -99 (Blues MK) 16gp 12g+20a=32p
3. F - Patrik Laine (Tappara) 14gp 16g+15a=31p
4. F - Tino Siren (TuTo) 17gp 7g+20a=27p
5. F - Eetu Tuulola (HPK) 14gp 16g+9a=25p
6. F - Markus Nurmi (TPS) 15gp 10g+15a=25p
7. F - Jarkko Aalto (Jokerit) 15gp 7g+17a=24p
8. F - Otto Mäkinen (Tappara) 13gp 13g+10a=23p
9. F - Waltteri Karapuu (TuTo) 16gp 4g+17a=21p
10. F - Artturi Toivola (HPK) 18gp 8g+12a=20p
11. D - Urho Vaakanainen -99 (Jokipojat) 16gp 6g+13a=19p
12. F - Erno Hänninen (Blues MK) 12gp 6g+9a=15p
13. F - Roope Oja (Blues EPS) 11gp 4g+11a=15p
14. D - Miro Heiskanen -99 (Blues MK) 13gp 4g+11a=15p
15. F - Matias Mutikainen (SaPKo) 14gp 6g+7a=13p

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Joni Ikonen (#16) scores the first 4, Emil Oksanen (#11) the next 6 after that. You can also see Miro Heiskanen (#2) on this video:



Artturi Toivola (#25) scores the first 5, Eetu Tuulola (#57) the next 5 after that:



Patrik Laine (#8) scores the first 5, Otto Mäkinen (#52) the next 6 after that:


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Are Finland finally starting to produce offensive players again, how do the younger age groups look is there starting to be depth again? Looks like even for next years WJC when Mikael Granlund leaves along with Donskoi and Pulkinnen players like Ikonen, Teravainen, Kallela, Tanus, Tornainen, Lekhonen etc will step in, is it safe to say Finland has more depth now for these age groups?

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Wings5: I don't think there are too many 1994 born forwards who will be drafted. However the age-group of 95's has plenty of good forwards. In my opinion it's too early to say about 1996 born forwards (at least a little bit) but Roope Hintz and Joel Kiviranta have good potential. A couple of 1997 born players have looked good but again it's early.

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Jokerit will host Amway Cup at Pirkkola, Helsinki 28-30.12 for -97 (C2) teams (HIFK, Blues, Tappara, TPS, Machoki (Budapest), Silver Lions (St.Petersburg, -98 team?), Southern district -97, Southern district -98 and Jokerit). Most of the best -97 born players from the areas. Also most of the -98 born players to see who play with C2 teams in series.
I will be there probably for at least one day. Should be very interesting!

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Just noticed it. He seems to be very skilled player with nice scoring touch. Can you describe him more? Skating and two-way game? it seems that he has catched Ikonen at offensive ability and he seem to be bigger than the listed 5'10. I'd might rank him above Ristolainen potential-wise.

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Just noticed it. He seems to be very skilled player with nice scoring touch. Can you describe him more? Skating and two-way game? it seems that he has catched Ikonen at offensive ability and he seem to be bigger than the listed 5'10. I'd might rank him above Ristolainen potential-wise.
Lehkonen is driven towards scoring goals and making a difference offensively, but his two-way game seems more developed than with most Finnish scoring forwards at this age. He can play a good two-way game when he wants to and can also be used on short handed play. It seems likely that he’ll get a good number of SM-liiga games next season, so it’ll be interesting to see how his game looks there. It should tell a bit more about his potential and what things he needs to improve the most. He seems good in most areas of the game, but it remains to be seen whether he develops to be truly exceptional in any of them. I might say that his wrister is very good for a Finnish youngster, but that it also requires some tuning before it’s lethal against tougher competition. At the moment Lehkonen probably isn’t taller than 5’10’’, he just looks a bit bigger on that video because he was playing on a same line with Tanus and J.Ikonen.

I think that at the WJC’s Ristolainen was one of the few Finns who actually looked comfortable in a NA rink against teams like Canada, USA and Sweden. Very good size, some physicality, fairly solid defensive game ( =needs work, but good for his age), didn’t have much trouble with the higher pace and was decent on the power play. He has potential to develop into a top-4 NHL defenseman and it’s not even a pipe dream like with so many other Finnish prospects. I would still have Barkov and Ristolainen above Lehkonen, but Lehkonen sits firmly at 3rd and might surprise if he grows some height, gets stronger and develops nicely.

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any 96 born forwards to look out for in the future? Also how good year is it for the finns as of now?

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I'm pretty excited about Aleksi Saarela( http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=94117 ), maybe link to his eliteprospects.com site is already here, but I'm too lazy to find out Forgive me

But, Barkov still is my favourite prospect, just 'cause of his size, and puck handling, which is top-class. Here is a little video, I made, really short, but it's the first part of my series, "Finnish Prospects".


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"FTFY". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qU4kbEMt0s

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I'm pretty excited about Aleksi Saarela( http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=94117 ), maybe link to his eliteprospects.com site is already here, but I'm too lazy to find out Forgive me
Saarela had 2 goals and 6 points today in 4-6 win over SaiPa/Ketterä. So far this season he has 39 points in 14 games in C-SM.

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