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12-27-2011, 09:49 PM
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Bob now please.

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12-27-2011, 09:54 PM
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Lol. I think that Snider was really frustrated by all the fluke goals that teams scored against us. Bouch and Bob gave up some brutal goals at impossible angles. To his credit Bryz has not given up any goals like that this year.
Are you kidding me?

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12-27-2011, 09:55 PM
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Same number of WINS as Lou, Elliot, Quick and Lundqvist. I will take wins over stats any day!

I believe Hockey is still a Team Sport!
Thanks for the thrilling in depth analysis.

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12-27-2011, 10:02 PM
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Right now lavy should go with bob and let bryz stew for a few on the bench.............

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12-27-2011, 10:07 PM
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The way bryz is playing bob will be the starter soon and we will have the highest paid backup.........

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12-27-2011, 11:11 PM
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Same number of WINS as Lou, Elliot, Quick and Lundqvist. I will take wins over stats any day!

I believe Hockey is still a Team Sport!
I agree!!!

On another note, I'm so glad we have Zac Rinaldo over Alex Ovechkin (as you can see by our record, Rinaldo is a winner and Ovie is a natural born grade-A loser).

And thankfully we have Le Hobbit over Steven Stamkos (again, our record proves that Briere is a better player than Stamkos).

And thank the lord that we've got Matt Carle instead of Shea Weber. Our team's record clearly proves that Carle is just flat out more successful than Weber could ever dream of being.

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12-29-2011, 08:43 PM
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What game are we on now? My prediction is almost dead-on. Let the transition begin.

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12-29-2011, 08:46 PM
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9 years from now.

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12-29-2011, 08:46 PM
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What game are we on now? My prediction is almost dead-on. Let the transition begin.

He still won't be our starter in the playoffs. He probably won't even start on Monday even though he deserves it and has been the better goalie.

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01-01-2012, 04:05 PM
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If you want to find out who the best goalie is you have to count games that they statistically should have lost, but got bailed out by the Flyer's offense (i.e. they gave up 3 or more goals but still got the W) as losses, and games where they performed statistically well (2 or less goals allowed), but still got the L as wins.

Bryzgalov:

4 out of 14 wins with 3 or more goals allowed
2 out of 11 losses with 2 or less goals allowed

Bobrovsky:

2 out of 8 wins with 3 or more goals allowed
0 out of 2 losses with 2 or less goals allowed


So their records on a statistically average goal-scoring team would be:

Bryzgalov: 12 W | 13 L
Bobrovsky: 6 W | 4 L

On a statistically average team, Bryzgalov would be a below .500 goalie.

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01-01-2012, 04:10 PM
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i thought bryzgalov was in statistically average team in Phoenix, wasn't he?

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01-01-2012, 04:17 PM
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If you want to find out who the best goalie is you have to count games that they statistically should have lost, but got bailed out by the Flyer's offense (i.e. they gave up 3 or more goals but still got the W) as losses, and games where they performed statistically well (2 or less goals allowed), but still got the L as wins.

Bryzgalov:

4 out of 14 wins with 3 or more goals allowed
2 out of 11 losses with 2 or less goals allowed

Bobrovsky:

2 out of 8 wins with 3 or more goals allowed
0 out of 2 losses with 2 or less goals allowed


So their records on a statistically average goal-scoring team would be:

Bryzgalov: 12 W | 13 L
Bobrovsky: 6 W | 4 L

On a statistically average team, Bryzgalov would be a below .500 goalie.
I'm not sure that analysis would hold up. Even on statistically average teams, goalies will get wins they shouldn't and losses they shouldn't. Especially looking at a 25 game sample. At the end of the season if this holds true still it would be a more concrete way to look at the situation. Not saying it won't continue this way because he is definitely not playing well, but less than half a season is too short of a time period to look at stats this way.

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01-01-2012, 04:18 PM
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i thought bryzgalov was in statistically average team in Phoenix, wasn't he?
He was, but he played a lot better in Phoenix for some reason. I'm only talking about this season's numbers.

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01-01-2012, 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure that analysis would hold up. Even on statistically average teams, goalies will get wins they shouldn't and losses they shouldn't. Especially looking at a 25 game sample. At the end of the season if this holds true still it would be a more concrete way to look at the situation. Not saying it won't continue this way because he is definitely not playing well, but less than half a season is too short of a time period to look at stats this way.
Of course it's not a guarantee, no sports statistics are 100% accurate because there are a lot of variables.

But looking at stats like this helps eliminate one variable (how good a team's offense is) so they are more accurate than just looking at actual records

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01-01-2012, 04:25 PM
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Of course it's not a guarantee, no sports statistics are 100% accurate because there are a lot of variables.

But looking at stats like this helps eliminate one variable (how good a team's offense is) so they are more accurate than just looking at actual records
Well of course no stat is 100% accurate, but looking at the stats the way you are looking at them are not even close to 100% at this point. If it continues this way for the duration of the season (wins in blowouts, losses in close games) that is a different story. But 25 games is too small of a sample size to analyze stats like this.

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01-01-2012, 04:27 PM
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Well of course no stat is 100% accurate, but looking at the stats the way you are looking at them are not even close to 100% at this point. If it continues this way for the duration of the season (wins in blowouts, losses in close games) that is a different story. But 25 games is too small of a sample size to analyze stats like this.
Obviously...

I'll update it before the all-star game and later in the season too.

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01-12-2012, 10:39 PM
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Everyone,

It is not time for the posters in the first few pages to promptly revoke their posting rights for the rest of the season.

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01-12-2012, 10:59 PM
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Everyone,

It is not time for the posters in the first few pages to promptly revoke their posting rights for the rest of the season.
Yeah, no.

Anybody who thought this thread was an overreaction back on Oct. 26 had every reason to think so. It was what, the second week of the season?

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01-16-2012, 02:56 PM
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http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/flyers...276&feedID=695


Struggling Bryzgalov still the Flyers #1 goalie


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If there were any questions as to who the Flyers’ No. 1 goalie is, the team’s coaches seemed to put them to rest Monday at Skate Zone.

While both goalie coach Jeff Reese and head coach Peter Laviolette refused to outright call Ilya Bryzgalov their No. 1, they made it clear "the Bryzard of Oz" is still their top guy.


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01-16-2012, 03:17 PM
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http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/flyers...276&feedID=695


Struggling Bryzgalov still the Flyers #1 goalie
Kimmo basicly saying the team would rather have Bob in net, if you read that right..

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01-16-2012, 03:23 PM
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Kimmo basicly saying the team would rather have Bob in net, if you read that right..

Doesn't really matter who the team wants in net though, does it?

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Doesn't really matter who the team wants in net though, does it?
sadly, no..

even reading that it seems likely we will sink or swim this PO season on Bryz' ability...

Lavi seems pretty determined to give Bryz every chance to turn it around, even if it costs us the chance to make PO.


which is surprizing..i would have expected Lavi to hot hand the goalies regardless.. oh well guess we'll see were our fortunes take us

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Bryz is lifetime [NHL] .914 SV% and 2.58 GAA

Bob is .916 / 2.55

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Kimmo basicly saying the team would rather have Bob in net, if you read that right..
Eh, I think you are looking into those statements too much. While it may be true he wants Bob in net, all he is doing in those statements is praising Bob, most likely because he was asked about him. If, in the same article he was saying negative things about Bryz, I'd agree, but here he is just talking about Bob playing well, which he obviously has been doing.

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Kimmo is never gunna flat out say something bad about a fellow team player..

you dont think it tells you something when he mentions one goalies strong play and mindset, then fails to even mention Bryz's mental tuffness ???

it tells me the team is feeling the same way alot of this board is..

Bob = better chance to win on any given night..

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