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01-02-2012, 10:10 AM
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Oilers recall Hartikainen from OKC; assign Petrell to OKC.

Good to hear Harski is back; though I am extremely disappointed the Oilers decided to send Petrell down to OKC instead of Lander. I do not understand why this club is reluctant to demote their young players.

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01-02-2012, 10:12 AM
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I agree, odd move sending Petrell down as he has been pretty good on the 4th line, and killing penalties.

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01-02-2012, 10:21 AM
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Good to hear Harski is back; though I am extremely disappointed the Oilers decided to send Petrell down to OKC instead of Lander. I do not understand why this club is reluctant to demote their young players.
Yea I dont get it either. To me it makes more sense to send down the young guy who has no strings attached(ie wife and kids). Especially after considering that Petrell brought what we asked of him every night and that Lander can be a liability and would likely benefit more from his time in OKC then Petrell. Just shows the class of the Oilers organization, you wouldn't see this happen in Detroit.

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I have liked Petrell's game and seems to be doing fine on few minutes so this is a little surprising. Happy we get to see Harti though because we need a bit more grit and offense.

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Well that outta right the ship. They should have brought up Hartikainen and benched one of the underacheiving vets. The usual oiler motto of benching or press boxing guys who don't really deserve it and giving the favs a free pass.

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Extremely disappointed. Petrell brought much more to this team than I think Härski will at the moment. Would have loved to see lander sent down to develop his offense with Hartikainen and Pääjärvi. We need those guys to develop into offensive players in the future.

Not liking this move.

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Renney loves Lander's powerplay killing abilities, he stays.

In fact, Renney loves everything which has to do with defense.

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Well that outta right the ship. They should have brought up Hartikainen and benched one of the underacheiving vets. The usual oiler motto of benching or press boxing guys who don't really deserve it and giving the favs a free pass.
Uhmm, so you really think that Harti is the medicine the Oilers need to fix things? I hope you are right but I think you greatly overestimate his potential impact. He's having a decent season so far but nothing out of the ordinary (which I actually find a bit disappointing since I was expecting him to take big step this year).

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Uhmm, so you really think that Harti is the medicine the Oilers need to fix things? I hope you are right but I think you greatly overestimate his potential impact. He's having a decent season so far but nothing out of the ordinary (which I actually find a bit disappointing since I was expecting him to take big step this year).
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The only reason that I can think of for this, is that the Oil want more offensive production from the third line, which makes sense considering the second line has been shooting blanks for some time now. I hope Petrell gets brought back up soon, he deserves to be on our 4th line. Eager hasn't worked out so far and I can't see him having no value around the league, maybe we can trade him by the deadline for a pick and get Petrell back up here. I'll cross my fingers for that anyway.

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Nice to see Harti called up, I thought he might be coming to replace Jones who I was expecting to see on the IR list. I don't like seeing Petrell sent down though, he's been everything we expected and more so far.

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Renney loves Lander's powerplay killing abilities, he stays.

In fact, Renney loves everything which has to do with defense.
Ironic that the Oilers still suck as whole in that department.

If Renney wants to send a message, bench/sit/PB Hemsky and/or [preferably and] Horcoff

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Yea I dont get it either. To me it makes more sense to send down the young guy who has no strings attached(ie wife and kids). Especially after considering that Petrell brought what we asked of him every night and that Lander can be a liability and would likely benefit more from his time in OKC then Petrell. Just shows the class of the Oilers organization, you wouldn't see this happen in Detroit.
Who cares about Detroit anyway? I keep hearing this over and over again and I just can't help to get annoyed by it. As an organization we are pretty damn far from being Detroit in so many aspects that it just becomes ridiculous to mention them...

Anyway, I also don't like Petrell being sent down. I think he's been doing exactly what he should have and what was asked of him but I also don't see why Lander should go down. Lander has been solid on the 4th line and I think that his presence there has actually made that line way more stable and solid than in previous years. If he's the best player we have available for that position he should be playing, no discussion.

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Who cares about Detroit anyway? I keep hearing this over and over again and I just can't help to get annoyed by it. As an organization we are pretty damn far from being Detroit in so many aspects that it just becomes ridiculous to mention them...

Anyway, I also don't like Petrell being sent down. I think he's been doing exactly what he should have and what was asked of him but I also don't see why Lander should go down. Lander has been solid on the 4th line and I think that his presence there has actually made that line way more stable and solid than in previous years. If he's the best player we have available for that position he should be playing, no discussion.
There are 2 parts to a game-defense and offense. Lander is just as big of a black hole in the latter as Belanger. Difference is that Lander can be sent down without waiver BS biting the Oilers and actually play some quality minutes.

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Who cares about Detroit anyway? I keep hearing this over and over again and I just can't help to get annoyed by it. As an organization we are pretty damn far from being Detroit in so many aspects that it just becomes ridiculous to mention them...

Anyway, I also don't like Petrell being sent down. I think he's been doing exactly what he should have and what was asked of him but I also don't see why Lander should go down. Lander has been solid on the 4th line and I think that his presence there has actually made that line way more stable and solid than in previous years. If he's the best player we have available for that position he should be playing, no discussion.
No question Lander has been good on the 4th line. It's just that I think he could amount to much better in the future if given an opportunity to develop his offense in a big role in the OKC.

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What a gong show. What did Petrell do to deserve a demotion? Demote a 27yr old and bring up the young guy to the gong show.

That's great thinking.

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There are 2 parts to a game-defense and offense. Lander is just as big of a black hole in the latter as Belanger. Difference is that Lander can be sent down without waiver BS biting the Oilers and actually play some quality minutes.
I get that but at the same time I don't think that it is necessarily bad for his game to stay here and play on the 4th line. Furthermore I don't see any reason for the Oilers to remove him from the 4th line if he is the best in that position.

Anyway, I went through this argument more specifically a couple of weeks ago in another thread and I won't do it again since there were many pages of back and forth about it. Bottom line is that I just disagree with what I guess are most posters opinion on this matter.

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What a gong show. What did Petrell do to deserve a demotion? Demote a 27yr old and bring up the young guy to the gong show.

That's great thinking.
All part of the Master Plan. Their scouts must have seen something they like in the Juniors and need to move a bit higher in the draft.

In truth though we can expect Harti to come up, add some energy, make some big hits, and take a few stupid penalties,
while Petrell goes down and wastes his talents.

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Sighhh .... Classic Oilers management, where one good move deserve a bad one. While I'm glad to see Harski up, demoting Petrell is such a pointless move. A guy who's done everything the coach has asked of him gets demoted? What the hell for? Harski's not a 4th line player. Is he going to suddenly turn Lander into an offensive dynamo? Cuz he sure as hell isn't going to play better defense than Lennu.

This club ...

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Bad move.

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Yea I dont get it either. To me it makes more sense to send down the young guy who has no strings attached(ie wife and kids). Especially after considering that Petrell brought what we asked of him every night and that Lander can be a liability and would likely benefit more from his time in OKC then Petrell. Just shows the class of the Oilers organization, you wouldn't see this happen in Detroit.
Detroit hasn't developed a noteworthy player since Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Kronwall. You're severely over-rating their system.

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yeah i don't get this one either.... hartikainen wasn't exactly ripping up the AHL, and has just come back from injury.... petrell has done everything they have asked of him and been one of our more reliable bottom-6 players all season... hartikainen was also playing big minutes down in OKC, which is important for young players.... sending lander down would have made more sense (as many others have mentioned)... lander still doesn't have to go through waivers next year though, so we could still see him in the minors in 2012-13..... that being said, it would have made a LOT more sense to have him in OKC this year, playing big minutes in all situations

very strange move, very strange indeed

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Meh, it was a winger for a winger. Petrell has been good though, so this is a confusing move. Loved Harti though.

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This is a confusing decision. I guess that describes a lot of Renney's recent ones, though. I'm glad to see Teemu and everything but Lander should have been sent down.

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