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01-04-2012, 12:06 AM
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01-04-2012, 05:25 AM
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That's so hot play, Power forward + Datsyuk in one play. If he only could play like that every game and every shift

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01-04-2012, 07:05 AM
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My god, I haven't really been paying attention to Armia. I think I'm falling in love... He's so un-Finnish: not your faithful 3rd line grinder who can work like a dog 24/7/365. Yeah, sure, needs to pay attention to some things, needs to improve, but my god, the boy is pure talent... A joy to watch those shark like finishes, he should deported from the country for not shooting into the logo.

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01-04-2012, 12:00 PM
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Terrible timing for the stick-riding celebration by Armia.

Selfish and unclassy. And its like «Who´s celebrating now?»

Too bad, really .... I would have LOVED to see the Finns in the Final. A WC and a WJC within a year would have been something else.

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01-04-2012, 04:46 PM
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Terrible timing for the stick-riding celebration by Armia.

Selfish and unclassy. And its like «Who´s celebrating now?»

Too bad, really .... I would have LOVED to see the Finns in the Final. A WC and a WJC within a year would have been something else.
He said that was the dumbest things he has done in his career so far : http://sports.yahoo.com/juniorhockey...rhockey-wp5644

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01-04-2012, 04:53 PM
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I thought it was hilarious, I guess he has a great sarcastic sense of humor. But who cares, he's just a kid.

No and it wasn't selfish and unclassy. You canadians need to relax about this tournament.

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01-04-2012, 05:55 PM
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I thought it was hilarious, I guess he has a great sarcastic sense of humor. But who cares, he's just a kid.

No and it wasn't selfish and unclassy. You canadians need to relax about this tournament.
Agreed, I think it was a superb move, he totally mocked Friberg who was going to shoot next, it could've really messed with Friberg's head (too bad it didn't), and as it was 100% intended towards Friberg, there's nothing selfish and unclassy.

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01-04-2012, 11:26 PM
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Agreed, I think it was a superb move, he totally mocked Friberg who was going to shoot next, it could've really messed with Friberg's head (too bad it didn't), and as it was 100% intended towards Friberg, there's nothing selfish and unclassy.
I liked it too - I thought it was borderline dirty as a tactic, but I absolutely thought it was directed at Friberg. Great if somewhat aggressive thinking... Unclassy, hmm, I just don't get that point in general, but in this instance it wasn't about that anyway.

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01-05-2012, 04:54 AM
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I liked it too - I thought it was borderline dirty as a tactic, but I absolutely thought it was directed at Friberg. Great if somewhat aggressive thinking... Unclassy, hmm, I just don't get that point in general, but in this instance it wasn't about that anyway.
Its unclassy because he was celebrating HIS OWN GOAL and not HIS TEAMS' WIN.

I think it puts more pressure on the Finnish goalie than Friberg.

But your right ... he's just a kid. Hindsight is 20/20.

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01-05-2012, 05:14 AM
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Its unclassy because he was celebrating HIS OWN GOAL and not HIS TEAMS' WIN.
The word "unclassy" doesnt exist in sweden-finland games.

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01-05-2012, 05:51 AM
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Agreed, I think it was a superb move, he totally mocked Friberg who was going to shoot next, it could've really messed with Friberg's head (too bad it didn't), and as it was 100% intended towards Friberg, there's nothing selfish and unclassy.
I also agree. As a swede my first thought was "Great move... Scoring a goal AND put pressure on Friberg... At worst he (Armia) doesn´t get to shoot again, because they are not gonna suspend him." Also thought it was hilarious done. My thoughts havn´t changed. It probably did affect Friberg, not enough as he´s probably to far "in the zone" scoring 9 goals in 5 games. In the end way to much is made out of it and other moves like this. Some people act as it´s worse than say a blindside hit to the head...

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01-05-2012, 06:28 AM
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Its unclassy because he was celebrating HIS OWN GOAL and not HIS TEAMS' WIN.
That doesn't make sense.

By that logic, noone should celebrate goal at all until the game's done and then they can go bananas if their team won?

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01-05-2012, 07:58 AM
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That doesn't make sense.

By that logic, noone should celebrate goal at all until the game's done and then they can go bananas if their team won?
EXACTLY.

At least when you are in the middle of a shootout that determines a spot in a WJC gold medal game.

And there is a difference between "celebrating" a goal and "riding the stick in front of the oppositions' bench". Huge difference.

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01-05-2012, 08:07 AM
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why would it put pressure on friberg?


if anything it would pump me and my bench to score and win to rub it into Armia's face.....

If he was the shootout winning goal then sure but it wasnt and we know what happened next

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01-05-2012, 08:24 AM
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If he was the shootout winning goal then sure but it wasnt and we know what happened next
nobody would do that after winning the game...

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01-05-2012, 08:38 AM
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I haven't seen the celebration, but I'm happy he realizes it was dumb. I'm not a fan of rubbing it in against the opponent, but sometimes players get a bit too excited. I doubt he'll continue with it.

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01-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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First I thought the celebration was pretty witty and funny remark, but then seeing the place where it put us, it was not such a good idea. I think it added that much more pressure for Donskoi (what the **** was he doing in the penalty shots?!) and Granlund. They both looked kinda terrified before they took their shots. I dunno, it might have added extra pressure.

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01-05-2012, 10:08 AM
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First of all, I don't think the stick ride affected anyone on either team too much. They're going through so much emotions at that moment that I actually believe it when Swedes say they didn't even pay attention to it. Also, I don't really mind some friendly "rubbing it in". If that makes you freak out I think you're taking the game too seriously.

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01-05-2012, 10:18 AM
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As a swede I had no problem with that celebration, it just added more to the psychological battle of the shootout and made it more exciting. Hockey needs more of this, but it can´t go to far.

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01-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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As a swede I had no problem with that celebration, it just added more to the psychological battle of the shootout and made it more exciting. Hockey needs more of this, but it can´t go to far.
This is my answer as well. I'm American though

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhoc...rhockey-wp5644

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"That was the dumbest thing I've ever done in my hockey career," Armia, a first-rounder of the NHL's Buffalo Sabres, said. "I don't know what happened there."
A Canadian reporter said if it was any consolation, it was a nice snipe by Armia, who also scored his fifth goal of the event in the second period.

"Thanks," he said with a slight smile.

Friberg's response? "I saw it as a tribute to me," said the Anaheim Ducks draft pick, who also had the tying goal with 1:44 left in regulation.
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"I don't care about it so much," Sweden captain Johan Larsson said. "Maybe you in Canada care about it."

"I don't think we were paying that much attention to it," forward Rickard Rakell added. "After the game we had a laugh about it."
It really isn't that big of a deal at all. Kids do this, they're just having fun. We've seen Canadians do this, as well as Americans in the past in both game and shootout. Now this year we have seen other players from other countries show their excitement. I have no problem with, it looked like he was having fun and it was just some good ribbing/celebrating you might do with your friends.

Again this isn't an issue at all. If this is considered unclassay then I guess most of the past Canadian and American teams should be the kings of unclassy/selfish acts.

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01-05-2012, 12:12 PM
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Its Sweden vs Finland, we are old rivals... Players trying to piss eachother off isnt considered "unclassy" for me at least, it just adds something xtra to that rivalry.

Stuff like this makes hockey more interesting and entertaining, im tired of players acting so formal when they score or win a game. These juniors are hockey at its best and brought up emotions that i never have watching men's games..

I hope they had more of this in the NHL.

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01-05-2012, 05:31 PM
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Well didn't do much in the final game and Pulkkinen's two minute shifts certainly didn't help.

In the end was selected as a top-3 player on the team in the tournament by headcoach Raimo Helminen. Tells something even though you can always argue about these things.

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Well didn't do much in the final game and Pulkkinen's two minute shifts certainly didn't help.

In the end was selected as a top-3 player on the team in the tournament by headcoach Raimo Helminen. Tells something even though you can always argue about these things.
Obviously Helminen doesn't understand how lazy he is.

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Obviously Helminen doesn't understand how lazy he is.
On the other hand he was Finland's most important goalscorer, but like I said you can make a case for many to the top-3 since noone on the team was perfect.

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Terrible timing for the stick-riding celebration by Armia.

Selfish and unclassy. And its like «Who´s celebrating now?»

Too bad, really .... I would have LOVED to see the Finns in the Final. A WC and a WJC within a year would have been something else.
Ye it was a rant to Friberg to get him out of balance, but then Friberg scored five hole on the finnish goalie.

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