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01-03-2012, 12:29 PM
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So do you prefer to keep Strome over Nino because you think Strome has the better chance of the two players, to reach his highest potential?Or is it that Nino is nhl ready and would be more appealing to Columbus?
Simply enough, Strome has a higher skill cap, and while I expect him to be a wing for us, he could still slot at center which might end up being important depending on what kind of scoring Bailey achieves in the next 2-3 seasons. (It's more of an insurance policy than a bet against Bailey. Obviously, I'm one of Bailey's bigger proponents.)

I'm not terribly interested in trading Nino , but he's the piece I would most likely part with in a trade to improve the current roster. It's hard to know what has happened to Nino's value since he's been here. It's hard to know what Columbus would feel about him. All I know is that if you want to take Tyutin from Columbus, then you're going to have to give something meaningful up. All I know beyond that is that it's been a few years since we've brought in a higher end player via UFA.

Our defense is small as a group and we have slots becoming available. Tyutin is an immediate upgrade that is reasonably priced (considering what it would cost to obtain a UFA replacement) and is locked up for a number of productive years. I honestly don't think he's for sale, so the price to pry him away goes up. (It doesn't make sense for him to be on the move unless there's something we don't know about. If that's the case, then the cost to obtain him goes up.) When you're trading contract for contract, you have to take the fact that Tyutin is locked up into account. It's not like he's making $6-$7 million/year and we're doing Columbus a favor.

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I would love to have Tyutin but giving up Strome makes no sense at all. We are a last place team why trade a young up and coming center? At this point we should wait for the draft/offseason and see what we can do with our defense then.

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I don't like any trade of a high end prospect unless it guarantees us a better playoff team. We're not even in that discussion, so no dice.

But more importantly, I don't want ANY prospect traded until we have a better GM. Snow stinks to high hades in trades - save for gambles on discards and his one grow'd up trade.

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isles have Streit,Hamonic and MacDonald signed through next season.
Staios,Jurcina,Mottou and Eaton are ufas this July.

We'll see 5 Bridgeport youngsters, fighting for 1-2 open spots.

Isles will imo be shopping for a top 4 d-man and maybe a 3rd pairing d-man.Would you guys be on board for a Tyutin for Strome+Koskinen trade?

Tyutin is in the first yr of a 6 yr/$27m contract.He has struggled a bit this season.

If anything I appreciate you making the trade in Columbus' favor, by not offering Jeremy Colliton for Tyutin, but Strome + more for him? Wow.

You just don't trade a blue chip prospect unless you're getting a top player back in return. That Tyutin is not.

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If where trading Strome and/or Nino in a package deal then I want Shea Weber(signed) or Ryan Suter(signed).....

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I don't like any trade of a high end prospect unless it guarantees us a better playoff team. We're not even in that discussion, so no dice.

But more importantly, I don't want ANY prospect traded until we have a better GM. Snow stinks to high hades in trades - save for gambles on discards and his one grow'd up trade.
How can you possibly judge Snow on trades? He doesn't make any of them, especially when it comes to trading away prospects/picks.

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If where trading Strome and/or Nino in a package deal then I want Shea Weber(signed) or Ryan Suter(signed).....
While there are a handful of denfecemen I would take for Strome/Nino, this post is in the ballpark of the right concept if we deal one of them.

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I don't like any trade of a high end prospect unless it guarantees us a better playoff team. We're not even in that discussion, so no dice.

But more importantly, I don't want ANY prospect traded until we have a better GM. Snow stinks to high hades in trades - save for gambles on discards and his one grow'd up trade.
Nah, Snow has been good in the non-2nd round pick trades but he's terrible at NOT pulling the trigger.

I really wanted Brian Campbell.

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If where trading Strome and/or Nino in a package deal then I want Shea Weber(signed) or Ryan Suter(signed).....
C'mon.With 3 more yrs on the current lease,does anyone expect Wang to okay what will be a $7m per yr player?

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Strome isn't going anywhere. And certainly not for Tyutin. No thanks.

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I'd rather target Nash.

Sure, we need a top 4 or 2 Dman, but if montoya can hold the fort by allowing say average 2.5 goals or less per game, Nash's skills will help us pot more goals on average. We aren't losing because of bad def..we are losing because of lack of offence. I know people here would argue that, but the games I've seen....we lose stupid games by one goal a lot of the time...rarely obscene blowouts.

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