HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Buffalo Sabres
Notices

Anyone listening to this? re: Burke/Regier

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-05-2012, 03:14 PM
  #1
rabi
Registered User
 
rabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Lancaster, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,621
vCash: 500
Anyone listening to this? re: Burke/Regier

Aren't they playing and taking about BUrke's comments about Regier from at least a year ago and passing it off as if it happened recently?

rabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 03:21 PM
  #2
puckish66
Registered User
 
puckish66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: Vanuatu
Posts: 1,046
vCash: 500
It's only about a month old.

puckish66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 03:25 PM
  #3
Chainshot
Global Moderator
Give 'em Enough Rope
 
Chainshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Costa Rica
Country: Costa Rica
Posts: 55,973
vCash: 500
Awards:
Similar thread from when it happened - http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=1053075

__________________
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
Chainshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 03:28 PM
  #4
SackTastic
Embrace The Suck
 
SackTastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 4,918
vCash: 500
Not surprised they'd do that if it fits their narrative for the day.

SackTastic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 03:29 PM
  #5
Chainshot
Global Moderator
Give 'em Enough Rope
 
Chainshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Costa Rica
Country: Costa Rica
Posts: 55,973
vCash: 500
Awards:
How is it topical discussion when the video conversation they are going on about is a month old? Do these guys just not do any research? Pathetic.

Chainshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 05:35 PM
  #6
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainshot View Post
How is it topical discussion when the video conversation they are going on about is a month old? Do these guys just not do any research? Pathetic.
Bulldog said someone tweeted the link at him last week when he was on vacation.....

The question I have are who are the other 9 GMs that Burke hasn't done a deal with? I wonder how many are highly respected GMs with SC rings that the WGR crew would take over Regier at the drop of a hat....


WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 06:26 PM
  #7
stokes84
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Charleston, SC
Country: United States
Posts: 6,137
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to stokes84
Burke did say he has made one deal with Darcy. Does anyone know what it was? In the same interview he says that if you make a deal and you end up getting burned, you'll never make another deal with that GM. Maybe Darcy burned Burke and he's still bitter over it?

stokes84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 06:40 PM
  #8
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by stokes84 View Post
Burke did say he has made one deal with Darcy. Does anyone know what it was? In the same interview he says that if you make a deal and you end up getting burned, you'll never make another deal with that GM. Maybe Darcy burned Burke and he's still bitter over it?
Date February 4, 1998

Buffalo Sabres acquire Geoff Sanderson

Vancouver Canucks acquire Brad May & 1999 3rd round pick (#88-Jimmie Olvestad)

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 06:43 PM
  #9
Daz28
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,226
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
Date February 4, 1998

Buffalo Sabres acquire Geoff Sanderson

Vancouver Canucks acquire Brad May & 1999 3rd round pick (#88-Jimmie Olvestad)
Haha. I can just hear Burke under-valuing Sanderson, "this guys been an All-Star, what's May done".

Daz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 06:49 PM
  #10
Mr Twinkie
Registered User
 
Mr Twinkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 101
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by stokes84 View Post
Burke did say he has made one deal with Darcy. Does anyone know what it was? In the same interview he says that if you make a deal and you end up getting burned, you'll never make another deal with that GM. Maybe Darcy burned Burke and he's still bitter over it?
Darcy also traded the draft pick for Dom Moore a couple years back

Mr Twinkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 06:56 PM
  #11
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Twinkie View Post
Darcy also traded the draft pick for Dom Moore a couple years back
I missed that one because the website had the Sabres and the Leafs in the wrong columns....

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 07:02 PM
  #12
ShaPow
Registered User
 
ShaPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 202
vCash: 500
Burke made sure he had Brad May in Anaheim black when they won the Stanley Cup. He couldn't have felt that burned....May was always a gamer.

ShaPow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 07:03 PM
  #13
TehDoak
General Zad
 
TehDoak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 16,520
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to TehDoak
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Twinkie View Post
Darcy also traded the draft pick for Dom Moore a couple years back
I don't know if Burke was the GM at that point.

TehDoak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 07:10 PM
  #14
Chainshot
Global Moderator
Give 'em Enough Rope
 
Chainshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Costa Rica
Country: Costa Rica
Posts: 55,973
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TehDoak View Post
I don't know if Burke was the GM at that point.
He took over in November of '08. That deal was at the deadline in March of '09.

Chainshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-05-2012, 09:48 PM
  #15
Daz28
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,226
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaPow View Post
Burke made sure he had Brad May in Anaheim black when they won the Stanley Cup. He couldn't have felt that burned....May was always a gamer.
That 3rd rounder was a longshot, so Geoff for Brad plus a possible future AHL'er is a burn. Burkie is probably only mad cuz Darcy's gives everyone else a 2nd but him. lol

Daz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-06-2012, 07:53 AM
  #16
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
One thing that hurts Regier-Burke deals is that Burke loves to get guys he's had before and Regier doesn't have too many of those!

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-06-2012, 09:49 AM
  #17
fightclubber25
Registered User
 
fightclubber25's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 932
vCash: 500
all this coming from the guy who clearly only likes to trade with his buddies.. who cares what he says.

fightclubber25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-06-2012, 10:29 AM
  #18
Afinogretzky
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buffalo
Country: United States
Posts: 988
vCash: 500
**** Burke. isn't he the same moron who said he'd only trade Schenn for 10 1st rounders? Talk about hypocrisy.

Afinogretzky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-06-2012, 10:32 AM
  #19
static80
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,177
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Afinogretzky View Post
**** Burke. isn't he the same moron who said he'd only trade Schenn for 10 1st rounders? Talk about hypocrisy.
I would not write off what Brian Burke thinks. The guy has a great hockey mind.

You want proof, take a look at the Vancouver Canucks and Anaheim Ducks.
Both of those teams core players are a direct result of the work of Brian Burke.

And although it may seem that Anaheim has issues, the guy knows hockey talent, there is no denying this.

static80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-06-2012, 12:30 PM
  #20
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
Burke is much more active on the trade market than Regier is. Is that just the way Regier is when it comes to managing his team or is that, in part, due to him driving too hard of a bargain with other GMs?

Since Burke took over the Leafs on 11/29/08, he has made 38 trades with 20 different teams [including the Moore for a 2nd deal with Regier]. Over 25% of those deals [10 out of 38] have been with his former team, the Anaheim Ducks. The next highest total is 3 trades each with TB & Chicago.

Over the same time frame, Regier has done only 10 trades, each with a different team.

Regier has done deals with 3 teams that Burke hasn't in that timeframe in NYI, St Louis, & Columbus.

There are 13 teams that Burke has done deals with that Regier hasn't in Anaheim, NJ, Nashville, Colorado, NYR, Philadelphia, Dallas, TB, LA, Washington, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and Minnesota.

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2012, 01:00 AM
  #21
Sabretip
Registered User
 
Sabretip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Country: United States
Posts: 7,817
vCash: 500
Quote:
In so many words, Regier said it takes one to know one.

"I would make the same comment about Brian," he said. "When I go to him, I find him difficult to deal with. I think that I haven't been able to get some of his better players from him, and I guess that he hasn't been able to get some of our better players from us. And I'm okay with that."

Regier did add that the two are good friends, and that "Brian likes to be a little bit more out in the public than I do, that's where we differ."
http://wgr550.com/pages/11994526.php...tentId=9768490

Sabretip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2012, 01:49 AM
  #22
dma0034
Registered User
 
dma0034's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,687
vCash: 600
Didn't the trade for Clarke MacArthur happen under Burke's watch?

Edit: Nevermind that was to Altanta and from Atl to Tor.


Last edited by dma0034: 01-14-2012 at 01:58 AM.
dma0034 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2012, 06:49 AM
  #23
WhoIsJimBob
Suffering
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 14,754
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabretip View Post
When I heard that, it sounded a bit tongue in cheek and like a buddy busting the chops of another buddy.

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2012, 08:31 AM
  #24
static80
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,177
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
Burke is much more active on the trade market than Regier is. Is that just the way Regier is when it comes to managing his team or is that, in part, due to him driving too hard of a bargain with other GMs?

Since Burke took over the Leafs on 11/29/08, he has made 38 trades with 20 different teams [including the Moore for a 2nd deal with Regier]. Over 25% of those deals [10 out of 38] have been with his former team, the Anaheim Ducks. The next highest total is 3 trades each with TB & Chicago.

Over the same time frame, Regier has done only 10 trades, each with a different team.

Regier has done deals with 3 teams that Burke hasn't in that timeframe in NYI, St Louis, & Columbus.

There are 13 teams that Burke has done deals with that Regier hasn't in Anaheim, NJ, Nashville, Colorado, NYR, Philadelphia, Dallas, TB, LA, Washington, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and Minnesota.
And the most important fact to remember from all of this information is that Brian Burke has bettered his product on the ice through those trades.

It was a gutsy move to go get Phil Kessel at the price they did, and the organization suffered to some extent short term, but let's not kid ourselves. That trade is bearing fruit at a good pace now and with Burke still at the helm, still actively pursuing players I firmly believe we'll see a center that is around the same age as Kessel joining him soon to form a very powerful 1st scoring line.

Burke build the Canucks into the power house they are, same with the Ducks and right in the middle of their Cup run and now he'll do the same in Toronto.

Regier on the other hand just loves to stand pat and hope that the players he's collected, mainly through the draft by the way, click and are "just good enough" to make some noise.
Status Quo alive and kicking down at the FNC Sabres management offices.

static80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2012, 09:21 AM
  #25
ZZamboni
Puttin' on the Foil
 
ZZamboni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Buffalo, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 9,661
vCash: 500
Hmmm ... 2008... Brian Burke ...

Just over 3 years ago he took over, and still no Stanley Cup? Wow he must suck just as much as Regier!

Next month, Regier will have an owner that gives him no financial guidelines, for a full calendar year. So in February of 2014, the Sabres should be doing well in the standings on their way to a solid playoff position.

In 11 months as the GM of an owner, who gives no financial guidelines, how many new faces has he brought in?
Now multiply that by 3 years, how many is that?

That's a lot of new faces that will hopefully help this team get closer and/or achieve the goal. The Stanley cup.

I am not anti or pro Regier, I just think it's fair to give Regier a semi- clean slate and see what he WILL do while the GM of this type of owner. Burke 3+ years finally showing results. Regier 11 months (under Pegula).
If Regier does little to nothing over the next 6-8 months, I'll first, be shocked, second, I'll want him replaced.
Just my O.

Edit... I'm not ignoring Regiers past. I'm just giving him more rope under a new owner. Afterall the owner is giving him limitless rope. Now it's the NHL's cap that's the limit, not an internal cap.

ZZamboni is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:19 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.