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01-07-2012, 08:31 PM
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It would take something like that but we can't afford to be losing picks right now. We need to snag a forward in the draft with that pick.

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Can't afford to lose picks anymore. It's apparent you need to Land roster (Potential) players in the draft. Manchester is pretty bare down on the Farm.

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Maybe the Kings and Sabres can make a blockbuster trade. Sabres just lost in OT.

Both teams are struggling with big expectations.

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Maybe the Kings and Sabres can make a blockbuster trade. Sabres just lost in OT.

Both teams are struggling with big expectations.
Swap Core players sounds good.

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Stafford for Williams. That's what I'd do.

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Williams, Stoll and Lewis

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Stafford, Gaustad and Ennis

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Williams, Stoll and Lewis

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I think no team would take Lewis or Stoll at this point (Stoll is only a maybe cause his faceoff's). I can see Williams being moved, but the Kings are not going to get much back for him. It will be another struggling Winger.

But at this point that might be ok. Can't be any worse right ?


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Im going to make my first nutty proposal for Iginla and Borque.

Bernier, jj, hickey, williams, and 1st and stoll for borque and iginla
We need to hold onto Bernier. There's crazy rumor circulating that JQ may be seeking 8M a season.

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We need to hold onto Bernier. There's crazy rumor circulating that JQ may be seeking 8M a season.
I don't think there are any rumors on what Quick might want.

Just people talking here based on Rinne's contract.

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I'd love to see that happen but can't imagine what it would take for the Kings to pull it off.
On the main board, there's a proposal for Iginla for '12 1st, '13 1st, Hickey, Toffoli and Penner.

Personally, I'd do the deal.

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I don't think there are any rumors on what Quick might want.

Just people talking here based on Rinne's contract.
Was being sarcastic. Thought it was obvious.

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On the main board, there's a proposal for Iginla for '12 1st, '13 1st, Hickey, Toffoli and Penner.

Personally, I'd do the deal.
Change Tyler to A-Mart I would do it. The Kings can't afford to give up on Tyler. He is pretty much the only hope for a drafted forward to make the roster the next few years (right now).

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On the main board, there's a proposal for Iginla for '12 1st, '13 1st, Hickey, Toffoli and Penner.

Personally, I'd do the deal.
F that....sends LA into the dark ages in about two years with nothing to show for it. trading #1 and #2's is NOT the answer. trading two #1's for 34-year old forward is just foolish. roster and prospects only or this team will be back to the dire days of 2004-2008

say LA makes this play and wins the SC, then he retires in about 4-years. LA has a ring but then they are back to a "new 5-year" rebuild mode. this is a classic case of mortgaging the future for the short term fix.

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01-07-2012, 09:08 PM
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This team isn't winning a Cup as constructed. Iginla or no Iginla. There is work to be done with the bottom six and we need more forwards than just Iginla. No reason to do that deal either. We need to parlay those #1's into forward prospects.

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This team isn't winning a Cup as constructed. Iginla or no Iginla. There is work to be done with the bottom six and we need more forwards than just Iginla. No reason to do that deal either. We need to parlay those #1's into forward prospects.
I agree, I would love to see Iginla on the Kings but giving up too many future assets is too risky, especially if you aren't ensuring yourself a Stanley Cup. Trading for Richards is one thing as he's still young and will be a permanent fixture for a long duration.

If they were to move some roster players and some defense prospects for Iginla, then by all means, go for it, but trading away a number of firsts is too risky. I provided a post in the past that collected the data of the top 100 scorers in the NHL since the lockout and a great majority of those players were former first round selections. The Kings have to find some scoring talent in the first round.

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I'm kind of surprised that so many of you are against the trade. We're getting not just a top line RW in Iginla, but someone who's going to change our team's identity. And we're only giving up 1 roster player in Penner.

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On the main board, there's a proposal for Iginla for '12 1st, '13 1st, Hickey, Toffoli and Penner.

Personally, I'd do the deal.
Are you for reals??? He's maybe worth ONE 1st and Toffoli, not the Kings future. How old are you?

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I'm kind of surprised that so many of you are against the trade. We're getting not just a top line RW in Iginla, but someone who's going to change our team's identity. And we're only giving up 1 roster player in Penner.
As much as I love Iginla and the way he plays, this team needs more than him. There is no deal at the Deadline that gets the Kings over the Hump in my book. This roster is just not cup worthy (or division leading worthy).

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I agree, I would love to see Iginla on the Kings but giving up too many future assets is too risky, especially if you aren't ensuring yourself a Stanley Cup. Trading for Richards is one thing as he's still young and will be a permanent fixture for a long duration.

If they were to move some roster players and some defense prospects for Iginla, then by all means, go for it, but trading away a number of firsts is too risky. I provided a post in the past that collected the data of the top 100 scorers in the NHL since the lockout and a great majority of those players were former first round selections. The Kings have to find some scoring talent in the first round.
I say if DL drafts a dman or a goalie with his first pick, he needs to go. And I'm so serious about this. I'm so sick and tired of all the goalies and dmen but no skills at our forwards. If DL doesn't get it, he needs to go.

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I'm kind of surprised that so many of you are against the trade. We're getting not just a top line RW in Iginla, but someone who's going to change our team's identity. And we're only giving up 1 roster player in Penner.
This season's team needs a lot more than just adding Iginla and subtracting Penner, and you want to do so while decimating what little depth the prospect pool has (and will have with those 2 first round picks)? That is just an awful, awful deal.

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I never thought I'd say no to an Iginla deal either. It's hard to take, but we need our own firsts VERY badly the next two years.

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I never thought I'd say no to an Iginla deal either. It's hard to take, but we need our own firsts VERY badly the next two years.
Also Dean (if he is still here) Needs to hit on them, I am talking at least Lucic/Stewart/Marchand type hit on them. The franchise can not afford to be drafting anymore Trevor Lewis type guys in the first.

I am not asking for Giroux type, but at least someone that is going to be a roster player , and put up some points(in the near feature).

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You guys are saying that now because we're going through some tough times. I still think DL's going to push for the cup this year.

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I'm kind of surprised that so many of you are against the trade. We're getting not just a top line RW in Iginla, but someone who's going to change our team's identity. And we're only giving up 1 roster player in Penner.
and two first rounders that most likely will be roster players down the road...so I count 3 guys. trading for Iginla and giving away this type of package is the same as those saying LA needs to make a trade for Parise at this point.

either guy would have an immediate impact in culture and the score sheet. their acquisition would also have another longer term impact on the long-term future of the club. to remain competitive in the league these days you have to fill your roster from the draft and those players have to produce.

it has taken a long 5+ rebuild process of stockpiling picks and developing prospects to get to where they are today. now when the panic button is getting hit people are looking to trade away a huge package for one player. as optimistic as i have been going into this season, i knew there was going to be some kind of patch like this they would have to overcome. most teams do, it's part of the learning process. few are fortunate to come into the league and have immediate or quick success, it typically takes time, effort and overcoming hurdles.

any trade along these lines is a clear indication of a GM in their final stages. one looking to make that last minute move that may save their ass and their job. a trade like this is what i have been dreading for the past 2-3 months as this team has floundered and underperformed.

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and two first rounders that most likely will be roster players down the road...so I count 3 guys. trading for Iginla and giving away this type of package is the same as those saying LA needs to make a trade for Parise at this point.

either guy would have an immediate impact in culture and the score sheet. their acquisition would also have another longer term impact on the long-term future of the club. to remain competitive in the league these days you have to fill your roster from the draft and those players have to produce.

it has taken a long 5+ rebuild process of stockpiling picks and developing prospects to get to where they are today. now when the panic button is getting hit people are looking to trade away a huge package for one player. as optimistic as i have been going into this season, i knew there was going to be some kind of patch like this they would have to overcome. most teams do, it's part of the learning process. few are fortunate to come into the league and have immediate or quick success, it typically takes time, effort and overcoming hurdles.

any trade along these lines is a clear indication of a GM in their final stages. one looking to make that last minute move that may save their ass and their job. a trade like this is what i have been dreading for the past 2-3 months as this team has floundered and underperformed.
No panic button here but we brought in Richards and Gagne so we can make a push for the cup. If not this year, then when? Those 1st round picks you speak of may not be ready for 4 or 5 years. By then, our roster may have already been dismantled.

Either we go all in for the cup or not. There's no half-assing it.

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