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01-07-2012, 09:42 PM
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It was nice hearing a coach praising his young players after a game. Does a lot for their confidence. I was mad after the Eller/Subban benching but it's nice to see it was more of a one-time wake-up call thing than a blaming them thing.
This is a huge statement from a coach. Compare to JM.

" the young players let us down tonight "

The old nun with the cane is gone.

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94 is slightly above the current point pace of the Leafs, who are in 8th. If the Habs don't need to beat Toronto (likely) then they need to beat out Ottawa, who are full value for their record.

To get to 90, the Habs need to get 51 points in 41 games, so a 102 point pace. Doable, but much more likely to land the Habs in 9th or 10th than in the playoffs.



TO's overall point percentage is .570. That's what I was going for. Montreal needs .670 on the final 41 games to match that point percentage over 82. That's 55 points over 41 games, which is probably the minimum required to make the playoffs, give or take a win.

You're free to believe the Habs can make the playoffs, it certainly is your right as a fan, but it's unfortunately extremely unlikely.
I know you're getting flack, but I agree with you. It can happen, but practically speaking, it won't. Too big of a hole.

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01-07-2012, 09:44 PM
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Forget other teams for a moment. For the past three seasons, a team has needed 93, 88 and 93 points respectively to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conf. Assuming 93 is this year's benchmark to make the playoffs, the Habs would need 54 points in their remaining 41 games. That's a 27-14 record (or 25-12-4). Looked at that way, it's unlikely.

But look at it another way: We got ourselves into this mess by losing five straight in one week. From edging into playoff contention to plummeting to 14th in seven days. What if we do the unimaginably opposite and go on a winning streak? A strong two weeks at 8-2 and our quest for 93 points would then need a 19-12 or 17-10-4 finish. Still tough, but at least plausible.

The bottom line is the Habs aren't good enough to play at a 650% pace for 41 games. But if they can go on a hot streak for a couple of weeks, it then becomes possible to play the remaining games at a merely strong 600% pace.

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01-07-2012, 09:47 PM
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everyone needs to remember the habs are not going to ****ing tank. the team makes too much money and has too demanding fans. what they need to do is tweak this thing. trade scammi and a 2nd for a big, young winger who scores less but has more grit; get rid of 2 of gill/campoli/weber for some picks to replace the pick in the scammi deal;buy out blowmez when necessary and then stack the 4th line with more grit

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01-07-2012, 09:48 PM
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Forget other teams for a moment. For the past three seasons, a team has needed 93, 88 and 93 points respectively to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conf. Assuming 93 is this year's benchmark to make the playoffs, the Habs would need 54 points in their remaining 41 games. That's a 27-14 record (or 25-12-4). Looked at that way, it's unlikely.

But look at it another way: We got ourselves into this mess by losing five straight in one week. From edging into playoff contention to plummeting to 14th in seven days. What if we do the unimaginably opposite and go on a winning streak? A strong two weeks at 8-2 and our quest for 93 points would then need a 19-12 or 17-10-4 finish. Still tough, but at least plausible.

The bottom line is the Habs aren't good enough to play at a 650% pace for 41 games. But if they can go on a hot streak for a couple of weeks, it then becomes possible to play the remaining games at a merely strong 600% pace.
i don't disagree, we need to get to 500 and go from there

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Is it just me or is the goal horn louder?

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Forget other teams for a moment. For the past three seasons, a team has needed 93, 88 and 93 points respectively to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conf. Assuming 93 is this year's benchmark to make the playoffs, the Habs would need 54 points in their remaining 41 games. That's a 27-14 record (or 25-12-4). Looked at that way, it's unlikely.

But look at it another way: We got ourselves into this mess by losing five straight in one week. From edging into playoff contention to plummeting to 14th in seven days. What if we do the unimaginably opposite and go on a winning streak? A strong two weeks at 8-2 and our quest for 93 points would then need a 19-12 or 17-10-4 finish. Still tough, but at least plausible.

The bottom line is the Habs aren't good enough to play at a 650% pace for 41 games. But if they can go on a hot streak for a couple of weeks, it then becomes possible to play the remaining games at a merely strong 600% pace.
This is my thought exactly in regards of what the team should aim for for the rest of the season. Thinking 'they have to play at a ,670' pace makes it seem impossible, but a solid win streak can lower this % by a lot.

To me the Habs have until the end of January to see if they have a chance to make the playoffs. If you get some major hotstreak and line-up wins and then need .550-.600 win ratio to make the playoffs, then by all mean go for it (don't sacrifice our future for it though...).

But if they play for around .500 in the rest of January, then just tank. But they still have a shot IF they can go on a solid win streak for the rest of the month (could lose 1-2 in there, but not much more than that, they're in too big of a hole).

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01-07-2012, 09:50 PM
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everyone needs to remember the habs are not going to ****ing tank. the team makes too much money and has too demanding fans. what they need to do is tweak this thing. trade scammi and a 2nd for a big, young winger who scores less but has more grit; get rid of 2 of gill/campoli/weber for some picks to replace the pick in the scammi deal;buy out blowmez when necessary and then stack the 4th line with more grit
"Goal" is a more important stat than "Grit".

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Pleks is now -10...Good for the 760th place in the NHL. Ouch

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Pleks is now -10...Good for the 760th place in the NHL. Ouch
I think hes playing injured. Atleast I hope so

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Pleks is now -10...Good for the 760th place in the NHL. Ouch
Ever since the birth of his baby, Plekanec has looked completely disinterested. But can you blame him? First time father, probably has other things on his mind than hockey.

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I gotta say I loved the way the team looked tonight. Loved the fact that the play was physical and loved the fact that the refs let them play. Really fun hockey game to watch. Habs played better as the game went on and played the same way for 60 minutes. Good stuff.

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Good game by our players!
-The top line may be undersized, but Cammy had a better game and Gionta had hustle.
-Eller's line was our best despite not scoring. Great Akost Hit!
-Nice to see Patches get some points, and thank you Eric Cole for getting points everygame.
-Blunden/Darche hit pretty well on the forecheck
-We are undefeated with L'Oreille!!

-Subban/Gorges good solid play
-There was one time we got caught with Campoli and Gill on the ice against all three of Tampa's stars, lucky we got away from that without a goal or penalty.
-Diaz, I hated you at the start of the year. Im still not sold, but much much much much better play from you over the last few weeks.
-Emelin, best. Loving your size and attitude

-Price is Price, always good.

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I'd place the over/under on hours of sleep he (Plekanec) gets per night on average at 3.5

I say under.

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Is it just me or is the goal horn louder?
I hope so, the players seem to want to hear it

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how out to lunch are these proposals:

cammy, bournival, 2nd for Bobby Ryan

or

cammy, DD, 2nd for Carter, Boll

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Plekanec is on the ice for every PK. That skews the numbers. Meanwhile, he's still tied for the team lead in points.

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"Goal" is a more important stat than "Grit".
i don't disagree but cammy is soft..we have enough soft small scorers. one if enough

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i think they made it louder or the crowd is just too dull

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For everyone trying to math out what we need to do to get in the playoffs:

Any professional athlete will tell you that you can only control what you do.

So just win, the rest will take care of itself.

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how out to lunch are these proposals:

cammy, bournival, 2nd for Bobby Ryan

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cammy, DD, 2nd for Carter, Boll
Pretty out to lunch. Highway robbery for the habs in both, IMO.

I've heard that we've been interested in Boll, though. And i'd welcome that.

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Plekanec is on the ice for every PK. That skews the numbers. Meanwhile, he's still tied for the team lead in points.
Pk doesn't count for (+/-)

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Pleks is now -10...Good for the 760th place in the NHL. Ouch
The last couple of games he's played very well. The goal tonight was in no way his fault (was he on the ice?) and he's made good plays although his finishing hasn't been great. Most important: He backchecks like a MOFO and when he's paired with wingers that just can't score, hard for him to get out of that. I actually really liked Gio tonight. Cammy, so so. Certainly not what I expect. Still "floating". I think that line will start scoring if they're kept together though.

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Pretty out to lunch. Highway robbery for the habs in both, IMO.

I've heard that we've been interested in Boll, though. And i'd welcome that.
what if we change them to firsts?

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Pleks is now -10...Good for the 760th place in the NHL. Ouch
Getting metric truckloads of defensive zone faceoffs against a murderer's row of the best scorers in the league will do that to you.

He's gotten buried so that Eller and especially DD don't have to deal with it. Eller seems to have climbed a step though, we should start seeing him do better as #81 starts getting tougher assignments. Gomez's return should also help by taking even more of the load off.

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