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01-08-2012, 10:28 AM
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They're insecure because Price is playing at a league average level.
and Halak is playing at a ........... level?

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and Halak is playing at a ........... level?
He has a .911 sv% (Price has .913) and a notably better GAA and a better win%.

So, yeah. He's also played at a league average level, and yet he's got better numbers than Price in other categories.

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He has a .911 sv% (Price has .913) and a notably better GAA and a better win%.

So, yeah. He's also played at a league average level, and yet he's got better numbers than Price in other categories.
St Louis is 2nd in the West

Montreal is 12th in the East

Halak is a backup, Price is a starter

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You have to love Halak.

He gave Montreal one of the all-time goaltender PO performances and killed off the Caps and Pens.

He remained humble throughout.

All you can do is wish him he the very best in hockey and in life.
One of the all-time great goaltender playoff performances? He had two excellent series, followed by a less than stellar Conference final. This does not even qualify as one of the Montreal Canadiens all-time great goaltender playoff performances. As long as he is not playing the Canadiens, I have nothing against Halak, however, I much prefer having Lars Eller on the team.

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St Louis is 2nd in the West

Montreal is 12th in the East

Halak is a backup, Price is a starter
If Brian Elliott was a Montreal Canadien, Price would be the backup too.

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Elliot >>>>> Trash can >>>>> Halak
>>>>> Budaj >>>>> Auld >>>>> Price

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St Louis has had a very good first half, and have two good goalies...

The one thing that remains a question about Halak he doesn't seem to be able to carry the load, without getting tired...Price can carry the load, even when he is tired. We made the right decision...

41 games in and St Louis is the better team, let's see where the next 41 games takes things....

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ok

pls go

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What kind of fan base does St. Louis have anyway? Where is the controversy, the 9 threads of outrageous posts about Elliot getting the easy starts and the better offensive support, about how his .940 save pct is meaningless when the other goaltender is younger with more potential.

Where is the thread per day openly questioning the coach's decision to start Elliott, or the thread a day openly declaring that 2 good goaltenders cannot co-exist on the same team.

Really, I can see why St. Louis fans have a long way to go to be seen as "knowledgeable" in hockey.

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ok

pls go
You're right but only because we play Price 100 games out of 101.

Elliot is having a far better season than Price though. There is no question there. Elliot is having a better season than 99% of the league. Will he keep it up? Who knows. But St. Louis fans don't seem to think so because if you check their forums, maybe 1 out of 50 would trade Halak first.

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HAHAHAHA can I make this my signature please?

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Are you out of your mind?

Elliott has been the best goalie in the NHL this season.

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You're right but only because we play Price 100 games out of 101.

Elliot is having a far better season than Price though. There is no question there. Elliot is having a better season than 99% of the league. Will he keep it up? Who knows. But St. Louis fans don't seem to think so because if you check their forums, maybe 1 out of 50 would trade Halak first.
Elliot is having a better season than 100 percent of the league. If he is even close to keeping this run going he will be the Vezina winner.

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>>>>> Budaj >>>>> Auld >>>>> Price
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're done.

Never liked Halak, never felt safe with him in nets. The rebounds, the shakiness, the horror!

That playoff series was not only amazing but also thrilling. His performance in games 5, 6 and 7 and then again in game 6 and 7 were fantastic and memorable. Had had some bad games otherwise and was really bad against the Flyers but it doesn't take away from that otherwordly play in those five games I listed. He didn't beat anyone by himself, but he sure as hell helped.

Cammy, Gorges, Gill, Subban, Lapierre and Moore deserve a lot of credit too. It wasn't just Halak.

In either case, I know to spot a bandwagoner whenever I spot someone who thinks Halak is in any way better than Price.

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Ahh some posters showing their true colors again..so cute.

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Interested to see how Elliott would fare behind this awful Montreal D.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're done.

Never liked Halak, never felt safe with him in nets. The rebounds, the shakiness, the horror!

That playoff series was not only amazing but also thrilling. His performance in games 5, 6 and 7 and then again in game 6 and 7 were fantastic and memorable. Had had some bad games otherwise and was really bad against the Flyers but it doesn't take away from that otherwordly play in those five games I listed. He didn't beat anyone by himself, but he sure as hell helped.

Cammy, Gorges, Gill, Subban, Lapierre and Moore deserve a lot of credit too. It wasn't just Halak.

In either case, I know to spot a bandwagoner whenever I spot someone who thinks Halak is in any way better than Price.
Your last statement is completely laughable. And you're one of my favourite posters here. People aren't bandwagoners because of which hockey player they like more.

And yes, Halak did have some bad games in the playoffs. But to be fair, Price is in the same boat there. Neither have ever held the consistency that I wish they could have (regular season included). Price is slightly more consistent but seems prone to letting in bad goals at the worst possible time. With Halak, you never knew what you were going to get - it was either an elite level performance or an NHL back-up type performance.

PS. To anyone here, keep it civil. Flaming will not be tolerated.

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I am just glad the trade worked out, Eller seems to be getting better every day.

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In either case, I know to spot a bandwagoner whenever I spot someone who thinks Halak is in any way better than Price.
This is a ridiculous statement. Halak was better in 2009-2010, Price was better in 2010-2011, and they've been about equal this year. Price admittedly is forced to play a lot more games; Halak has a better track record in the playoffs. I don't think it's fair to conclusively say that one goalie is better than the other right now.

Personally, I think both goalies have a similar average level of play with Halak having a larger range. He has more bad nights than Price, but I also think he steals more games. I'm comfortable with either goalie as my starter.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're done.

Never liked Halak, never felt safe with him in nets. The rebounds, the shakiness, the horror!

That playoff series was not only amazing but also thrilling. His performance in games 5, 6 and 7 and then again in game 6 and 7 were fantastic and memorable. Had had some bad games otherwise and was really bad against the Flyers but it doesn't take away from that otherwordly play in those five games I listed. He didn't beat anyone by himself, but he sure as hell helped.

Cammy, Gorges, Gill, Subban, Lapierre and Moore deserve a lot of credit too. It wasn't just Halak.

In either case, I know to spot a bandwagoner whenever I spot someone who thinks Halak is in any way better than Price.
I can spot a hockey newbie when they don't know that goaltending is fluid, where outside a handful of legends, performance levels change from week to week and year to year. It's the thing that makes goaltenders almost worthless in trades, and makes knowledgeable fans scratch their heads when people call for 7-15 year contracts for a goaltender.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're done.

Never liked Halak, never felt safe with him in nets. The rebounds, the shakiness, the horror!

That playoff series was not only amazing but also thrilling. His performance in games 5, 6 and 7 and then again in game 6 and 7 were fantastic and memorable. Had had some bad games otherwise and was really bad against the Flyers but it doesn't take away from that otherwordly play in those five games I listed. He didn't beat anyone by himself, but he sure as hell helped.

Cammy, Gorges, Gill, Subban, Lapierre and Moore deserve a lot of credit too. It wasn't just Halak.
I agree.

The reason we made our run is because Halak did what he does best by stopping the initial shot and the team in front of him did an incredible job of taking care of those ugly rebounds that so often go straight out in front of him.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're done.

Never liked Halak, never felt safe with him in nets. The rebounds, the shakiness, the horror!

That playoff series was not only amazing but also thrilling. His performance in games 5, 6 and 7 and then again in game 6 and 7 were fantastic and memorable. Had had some bad games otherwise and was really bad against the Flyers but it doesn't take away from that otherwordly play in those five games I listed. He didn't beat anyone by himself, but he sure as hell helped.

Cammy, Gorges, Gill, Subban, Lapierre and Moore deserve a lot of credit too. It wasn't just Halak.

In either case, I know to spot a bandwagoner whenever I spot someone who thinks Halak is in any way better than Price.
Carey Price is one of the biggest disappointments in the NHL actually. We took a 5th draft pick to draft this cluster ****** instead of guys such as Anze Kopitar or Paul Stastny.

This high draft pick (5th) should be THE best goalie of the actual NHL. But who is the real Carey Price? It's the one that you saw before the last year, and this year: he is too much of a coward to put up good numbers when his spot is won on the Habs' roster. This year, he is the real Carey Price, with his .913% (24th in the league). I wouldn't be afraid to say that he's the reason why the team sucks so much - because it relies on its goalies and Price is too much of a coward to get the job done. In fact, the bandwagoner is you, for loving Carey Price because he only had one good season out of five - last year. I never liked him and I will never do.

For his global numbers in career, it says it all. .916%, 2.57GAA...
And Jaro? .915% and 2.53GAA. While playing with Carey Price, he always had better numbers also.

But look at Halak's salary.
And wait a couple of months and wait to see Carey Price's salary.


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So, what about Matt D'Agostini?

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