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01-09-2012, 09:20 AM
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Gunnarsson is gold... to bad it's taken everyone this long to see what we have in Gunnarsson. Must say, i'm rather shocked most people are only catching on now.. I remember when he first got sent down, i said he'll back shortly and he was and has never left.
Pretty sure some people thought he was pretty good in the WC a couple seasons ago.

But not everyone watches hockey, some just watch the Leafs.

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heres hoping he doesnt get jinxed by the praise as gardiner did

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01-09-2012, 09:28 AM
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heres hoping he doesnt get jinxed by the praise as gardiner did
Gardiner is young. Gunnarson is playing like a seasoned vet.

the Leafs are honestly very fortunate that Gunnarson developed into a legit top 4 dman. He does everything right, now you hear this a lot but he actually does it. His offensive skill is weighed down by his dedication to defense and the solid positioning and work he puts in digging the puck out of problem areas.

His hand eye coordination is outstanding. He could easily play other sports. Or forward. His passing is very underrated. He has gotten stronger physically so you notice now when he takes the body on his man or clears someone that is harassing the goalie. He has always done it tho. He has played this solidly for a long time. He is our Seidenberg. Big minutes, without the big plays. Every good team needs a dman like him. We got lucky.

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His hand eye coordination is outstanding.
I chuckled here I've never seen a maple leaf defender fan on so many slapshots from the point.

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I chuckled here I've never seen a maple leaf defender fan on so many slapshots from the point.
sure.

but as a defender he deftly picks out pucks and anytime a loose puck is bouncing around him he fights off his man and gets the puck past him. Fanning at the point has more to do with how hes being covered and the quality of the pass. personally I havent seen him fan on a shot in a long time not sure how this is a considerable flaw.

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Gunnar is a solid NHL defensive defenseman. He might score more if given pp time, but I think his points will hover between 25 and 35 per season for his career. He is the new breed of Defensive defenseman who can skate and make good safe outlet passes. This ability will get him more points than your traditional stay at home guy.

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2) Phaneuf does not make Gunnarsson look better. It's the other way around. Phaneuf is almost braindead when it comes to defensive awareness. Gunnarsson has looked exactly the same on the second pairing as on the first.
They complement each other very well.

Phaneuf is an impact defender, but we know he has quite a large hole in his game.

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i think gunnar imo is the most Overrated D we have. Hes ok defensively but i wouldnt go as far to say that hes a top D man. Hes pretty clumbsy with the puck in the offensive zone, and his hockey sense isnt as sharp as liles or dion's. If im burke, I can live without him. theres plenty of "steady" D men in the system.

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People trashing Phaneuf AND Gunnarsson.

Shut up and be thrilled that the Leafs have both of them.

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i think gunnar imo is the most Overrated D we have. Hes ok defensively but i wouldnt go as far to say that hes a top D man. Hes pretty clumbsy with the puck in the offensive zone, and his hockey sense isnt as sharp as liles or dion's. If im burke, I can live without him. theres plenty of "steady" D men in the system.
great analysis

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Very solid both ways. Love him on the club.

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Said it since day 1. Our best defencemen. Easily.

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Didn't want to make a new thread so thought I could just ask in here.

I was never a big Gunnar fan going into this season (call me crazy), but he's obviously been growing on me as he's very consistent in doing what he does. My question however is what do you guys see his career potential peaking out as? Can he become a 35-45 point defenseman in his prime while still playing how he always is in his own end?

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Didn't want to make a new thread so thought I could just ask in here.

I was never a big Gunnar fan going into this season (call me crazy), but he's obviously been growing on me as he's very consistent in doing what he does. My question however is what do you guys see his career potential peaking out as? Can he become a 35-45 point defenseman in his prime while still playing how he always is in his own end?

Thanks.
Yes I believe he is capable of getting in the low 30s, and 35 being his max. On a contending Leaf team he should be able to benefit solely through his big minutes. Last year when Kaberle ice time diminished and eventually traded Gunn was getting points. Part of that was his play on the PP. I hope he can do it.

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Said it since day 1. Our best defencemen. Easily.
LOL!

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that's what I was thinking when I read that too.

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that's what I was thinking when I read that too.
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Said it since day 1. Our best defencemen. Easily.

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Underrated, but he doesn't have a high offensive ceiling.

He started off this season being force-fed tons of PP time (potentially in a trade showcase), and Wilson eventually stopped forcing it. He's been getting more PP time lately, but that's a byproduct of Liles being injured. He's miscast as a PP quarterback - he doesn't have a great shot, and he doesn't have tremendous offensive instincts.

Occasionally he'll pinch in and fire a somewhat harmless wrister. His upside is probably around 30-40 points, but anything above that is a bit of a stretch (and personally, I doubt he gets ever more than 35 in a season).

That said, there's nothing wrong with that at all. He's solid defensively, and he's usually in the right place at the right time. The best compliment I can think of is that he doesn't stand out on the ice, because he doesn't **** up. He's a plus player, and given Toronto's defensive woes, that's a great testament to his defense.

Solid #3-#4, but not a prototypical top-pairing defenseman.

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I have the same respect for him as I did Ian White when he played for the Leafs. To me, White was underrated as well, and then he was packaged in the Phaneuf deal. I just hope that if Gunner is traded, we get full value for him.

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bone head play with 20 seconds left but made up for it with a block a few seconds later.

still no where near the teams best dman though

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bone head play with 20 seconds left but made up for it with a block a few seconds later.

still no where near the teams best dman though
That was Grabovski.

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That was Grabovski.
I thought it was Gunnar as well. Steckel line was out for last minute, no?

either way, Gus bailed him out like he did Kadri earlier.

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That was Grabovski.
we're not talking about the same play. 20 seconds left, not a buck and change when 84 threw it up the middle.

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we're not talking about the same play. 20 seconds left, not a buck and change when 84 threw it up the middle.
Right, right. My bad.

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Right, right. My bad.
either way, who ever it was, got away with it.

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