Tencer: Tencers Hour with fans

[Beerfish]

Originally Posted by smokersarejokers

Totally.

Does everyone really think that they shouldn't be a bottom 5 team? The combined NHL experience of their top line is 2 seasons.

I really hate Dan Tencer, but I'll agree with him that Tambellini got rid of the guys that couldn't play and brought in a some toughness and leadership at reasonable contracts.

Yeah, the defence sucks, but look at the crazy contracts that guys like James Wisniewski got. A guy like Wisniewski would look great on the Oilers, but would also really screw them over when they have to sign Hall and Eberle next summer.

Why are they a bottom 5 team? Why is it that their best players by far who have produced this year are 20 and under and one old dude in Smyth?

Most people realize that the team at best was going to be fighting for a playoff spot for a while but the team is not in this state because they don't have james wisnewski.

There is one big huge white elepant in the room for the oilers that is hurting the team and has been taking up space on the couch for a long long time. The team needs to have the balls to find someway to remove the elephant or at least stick him in the garage until he leaves on his own.

[Oilerdiehard]

Originally Posted by PACKY D ELEPHANT

I read tencers article and I hate the fact that Tencer is like...well this rebuild started when Katz said it did, So what? Katz is the GM? the guy thats never played hockey, owned a hockey team or anything decided what to do? give me a *****ing break.

Well with any team if you are going to in a hugely different direction with sweeping changes. You pretty much need the blessings of ownership to do so.

[smokersarejokers]

Originally Posted by Beerfish

Why are they a bottom 5 team? Why is it that their best players by far who have produced this year are 20 and under and one old dude in Smyth?
Most people realize that the team at best was going to be fighting for a playoff spot for a while but the team is not in this state because they don't have james wisnewski.

There is one big huge white elepant in the room for the oilers that is hurting the team and has been taking up space on the couch for a long long time. The team needs to have the balls to find someway to remove the elephant or at least stick him in the garage until he leaves on his own.

That's my point. They're just not good. What did you expect? Hemsky should be producing a lot more, but Renney has acknowledged that many times.

The only criticism I have is that I'd rather have Lander in OKC and O'Marra as the 4th line centre, but that still won't make them much better.

[AUAIOMRN]

I think at this point "rebuilding" means "rebuilding our defence". Just compare what we have now to 08/09:

Souray -> Lost for nothing
Visnovsky -> Traded for Whitney, who has barely played
Gilbert
Grebeshkov -> Lost for nothing (at least nothing that helped the NHL team yet)
Smid
Staios -> Traded for nothing, but wasn't much of a loss to be fair

I'd actually be in favor of bringing Grebeshkov back if it's possible. He made the occasional boneheaded play, but he was mostly pretty solid and was a good puck mover.

[RustE]

Originally Posted by CupofOil

Agreed completely. 5 year process to me should mean that the team will be a Stanley Cup contender by the end of the process so there should be some urgency to make the playoffs in Year 3 to set up for Stanley Cup contention by Year 5.
Tambellini has his work cut out for him this trade deadline and offseason, his job depends on it or at least it should.

bang on on all counts. I don't think he absolutely has to make playoffs next year, but he has to make moves that put the team near the playoffs at the very least. no significants moves, no significant improvement by December of this year = pink slip.

[metallicat]

That was a terrible hour of radio. Who calls radio shows anyways? I don't like reading most peoples' opinions online, let alone on the radio. As Jim Rome says, "less of you, and more of me."

[Eirhead*]

I liked hearing Tencer rip into himself.

[CornKicker]

Originally Posted by TheBusDriver

I dont get why such a smart business man lets guys like lowe n tambo run a multimillion dollar biz. Do they have any credentials besides they used to play hockey? Do they have any kind of business degree? Seriously, most of hockey is like that and I dont get it.

have you ever been invloved with any type of corporate take over before. you always keep the management that is in place until you get a good chance to evaluate what they do and what needs to be done. then you figure out what needs to be fixed and what doesnt work. we should be getting to that stage within the next 6-15 months imo.

[guymez]

Originally Posted by CornKicker

have you ever been invloved with any type of corporate take over before. you always keep the management that is in place until you get a good chance to evaluate what they do and what needs to be done. then you figure out what needs to be fixed and what doesnt work. we should be getting to that stage within the next 6-15 months imo.

You mean like promoting the man who created this mess and hiring an unproven GM (a man who was passed over for the GM job by his former team) to facilitate a rebuild?

[Valic]

Originally Posted by I am the Liquor

What does that mean?

Five years until we can move out of last place?

Five years until we can move out of a lottery position?

Five years until we expect to make the playoffs?

Five years until we can make an actual trade that helps the team win now?

Five years until we can hold Lowe accountable for the ten years he screwed up this organization?

Five years till we are a good team, one who has goals beyond just making the playoffs. That's how I understood it, and that is the time table I am holding them too.