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01-09-2012, 06:46 PM
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Spurgeon's ceiling?

How good is he? What's his ceiling? Don't know too much about him, looking for some perspective...thanks

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01-09-2012, 07:13 PM
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It's tough to say since the kid's only 22.

From what I've seen around the board, people expect him to be a 2nd line defenseman (on a good team) and a solid PPQB.

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id say a 2nd pair, 30-35 points, 10 goals a season and a PPQB would be about the highest he could reach. not being a big liability on the defense either.

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01-09-2012, 08:15 PM
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Ceiling is a Brian Campbell/Kimmo Timonen type. Undersized yet intelligent and skilled offensive defenseman. He's played higher and tougher minutes this year and has been anywhere from decent to outstanding, rarely bad. What needs to be seen is if he can raise his game to another level offensively. He's actually pretty good defensively, although small enough that he will get knocked around.

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01-09-2012, 10:33 PM
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I'd say 7.5-8 feet. He definitely doesn't need vaulted or cathedral.





































Get it? Cause he's short.

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^best answer.

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I would say Spurgeon is a good 3 or 4 option who can play special teams and will max out at 30 points. Really the only thing holding him back is size. If only we could put his brain in Gillies body

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I'd say 7.5-8 feet. He definitely doesn't need vaulted or cathedral.

Get it? Cause he's short.
Had to think about it for a second.

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01-10-2012, 04:35 AM
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I'd say 7.5-8 feet. He definitely doesn't need vaulted or cathedral.





Get it? Cause he's short.

Was totally gonna post something to this effect when I read the thread title, lol.

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01-10-2012, 08:10 AM
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Ceiling is a Brian Campbell/Kimmo Timonen type. Undersized yet intelligent and skilled offensive defenseman. He's played higher and tougher minutes this year and has been anywhere from decent to outstanding, rarely bad. What needs to be seen is if he can raise his game to another level offensively. He's actually pretty good defensively, although small enough that he will get knocked around.
While he can be knocked off the puck, it doesn't happen much. I wonder if the other players in the league will start to find ways to take advantage of his size as time goes on though. I think he gets away with a bit by surprising people with how much more difficult he is to move than they expect.

Also, is there anything funnier than seeing Spurgeon lay a check on some 6'3" guy?

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Brian Rafalski.

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I think he will have some good seasons of 35-40 when he is in his prime, paired with a physical stay at home guy. Not that I ever see him rushing the puck himself, I do see him joining the rush. I think he will get a lot of secondary assists due to his outlet passes.

As others have mentioned, I think he would be a solid 3 or 4 D man (on another team) that would get some PP time. For the Wild, I don't see his TOI diminishing for quite awhile...

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Spurgeon's actually on pace for 30 points on about the worst offensive team in the league at age 22. If he continues to improve, he could be a 40-50 point player in his prime. Of course he needs to play with some actual talent up front to get those assists. Moving the puck up to a grinder usually doesn't result in much other than a turnover.

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Spurgeon's actually on pace for 30 points on about the worst offensive team in the league at age 22. If he continues to improve, he could be a 40-50 point player in his prime. Of course he needs to play with some actual talent up front to get those assists. Moving the puck up to a grinder usually doesn't result in much other than a turnover.
That and he's not going to get any points by moving it out of the zone for the forwards to dump and change either. The scary thing is that both Spurgeon and Zidlicky are on pace for 30 points (adjusted for 82 games, even though Zid missed 17). Spurgeon and Zid combine for 24 of our defense's 45 points so far this season, and 11 of the remainder are back down in Houston (Scandella 6, Prosser 5).

I would have to argue that Spurgeon is easily our best defenseman so far this season. He has continued to improve as the season progressed as well. I don't see why he wouldn't continue to grow at least through the rest of this season, if not into the next two years.

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01-10-2012, 09:42 AM
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How good is he in his own zone? He seems to get decent PK time...

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How good is he in his own zone? He seems to get decent PK time...
He is really, really good for his size. He actually uses what size and strength he has very well to get pucks. His best tool obviously though is his hockey IQ. He is just very smart and gets to the right places at the right times and makes good decisions. He is definitely a guy who I feel very comfortable seeing out on the ice at any time.

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01-10-2012, 09:52 AM
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I'd love if Spurgeon became a 50 point Dman, but he's got a long, long way to go to do that. He hasn't found his offensive rhythm at the NHL level, and he may never. He seems to force offensive plays a lot, as oppose to being confident like he is in the back end.

35 points would be a decent goal.

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01-10-2012, 10:34 AM
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Again he's on pace for 30 so basically you think he's topped out?

In his end, he has the best positioning of any Wild defenseman.

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01-10-2012, 12:24 PM
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How good is he in his own zone? He seems to get decent PK time...
I'm always a bit surprised when I see him on the PK squad......then I watch the play and I get it.

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01-11-2012, 01:37 PM
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It was hilarious seeing Spurgeon matched up with Thornton last night. Spurgie actually held his own most of the time, battling Big Joe along the boards.

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01-11-2012, 02:12 PM
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alright, enough with the 50 point stuff. If our defense was even okay, he wouldn't be getting this amount of ice time. Factor that into your predictions. If we don't bolster our D for the next three years he might actually hit 50 (assuming other players contribute by smacking in rebounds).

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I'd say his ceiling is about where he's at now - a good defensive defensemen. He gets by with playing a wise game, not physical attributes. If he dramatically improves his puck and skating skills he could be a very good Rafalski-type D-man, but I don't see any indication of that happening.

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His shot isn't any good so that's where I see problems in offensive production...he's smart as hell but he can't generate a shot like say Zidlicky can.

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His shot isn't any good so that's where I see problems in offensive production...he's smart as hell but he can't generate a shot like say Zidlicky can.
Except Zidlicky has forgotten how to generate a shot anymore in the first place, let alone keep the puck in the zone.

Spurgeon right now is easily this team's best D-man... for better or worse, that's a fact right now.

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I'd say a good 25 points a year, awesome 3rd pairing and PP QB, probably good 2nd pairing, but his size does hold him back some though, but his positioning makes up for it in spades.

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