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01-11-2012, 10:43 PM
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That is exactly what we're looking for ...

Just focus on shorter guy's who don't score goals.....the next defensive Crosby


and if you mess up and pick a guy who can score , we can trade him away or give him away ...
Hey hey hey... I'm serious guys! I would bring back the pride in this team! Pride have no height, I would sign a St-Louis and send back home a Popovic....

They could pay me as low as 75 000$, I would be alright... But I want my salary to double each time I bring a Sranley Cup, and with each cup I want a 7 years more on my contract...

What do you have to lose? It's a win/win situation... The only losers would be the 29 other teams!!

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he's in court beginning next December facing wife battery charges. he's not going to be the next GM of the Habs
Bring in Damphousse and Roy, the wife beating superteam!

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01-11-2012, 11:19 PM
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Here are some ideas:

President: Serge Savard(or Ken Dryden...whoever doesn't get the job can be in an advisor, or vice-president role...yes, Molson would have to fire himself from the President's position since he currently holds the Owner/President post).

GM: Vincent Damphousse(or guys like Denis Savard, Claude Lemieux, and Pierre Turgeon, again whoever doesn't get the job can be assistants or advisors.....this would take care of the call for guys between 35 and 50 running the team, stated earlier in this thread).

Coach: Patrick Roy(with guys like Larry Robinson, and Jacques Lemaire as assistants...they wouldn't be interested in the Head coaching position in a "hot head" city like Montreal, but I believe they could be persuaded to take assistant coaching jobs).

Scouting Staff: Keep the same staff for the time being.

These steps would address all language issues, while providing strong voices on the ice. Management can get rid of all
"smurfs", and bring in a fast, tough, talented, physical team, with the excuse that former management had signed the current
team, and that they wanted to go in a different direction.(No attachment to any current team members = no problem getting rid
of anyone on the current roster which would make the team better).

Let it rip trolls!! Tell me how this situation would be WORSE!!!, than what they have now.


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01-11-2012, 11:53 PM
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Here are some ideas:

President: Serge Savard(or Ken Dryden...whoever doesn't get the job can be in an advisor, or vice-president role...yes, Molson would have to fire himself from the President's position since he currently holds the Owner/President post).

GM: Vincent Damphousse(or guys like Denis Savard, Claude Lemieux, and Pierre Turgeon, again whoever doesn't get the job can be assistants or advisors.....this would take care of the call for guys between 35 and 50 running the team, stated earlier in this thread).

Coach: Patrick Roy(with guys like Larry Robinson, and Jacques Lemaire as assistants...they wouldn't be interested in the Head coaching position in a "hot head" city like Montreal, but I believe they could be persuaded to take assistant coaching jobs).

Scouting Staff: Keep the same staff for the time being.

These steps would address all language issues, while providing strong voices on the ice. Management can get rid of all
"smurfs", and bring in a fast, tough, talented, physical team, with the excuse that former management had signed the current
team, and that they wanted to go in a different direction.(No attachment to any current team members = no problem getting rid
of anyone on the current roster which would make the team better).

Let it rip trolls!! Tell me how this situation would be WORSE!!!, than what they have now.
Okay, I"ll break it down for you.

Savard - Probably wouldn't accept the position. Busy with outside interests.

Dryden - See Savard

Damphousse/D.Savard/C. Lemieux/Turgeon - We need someone with experience in this vital position. Or at the very least, experience being an assistant GM. Throwing one of these four in as GM would be team suicide IMO.

Roy - Interesting, I'm on the fence on whether he'd be able to handle NHL players.

Robinson - Has a nice comfy job with the Devils. So I highly doubt he'd leave to come back to Montreal.

Lemaire - This spring he stated that he was "fully retired" from coaching. So it's possible, but highly unlikely that he'd change his mind.

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01-12-2012, 06:24 AM
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Not completely... He drafted Koivu and Naslund.

But he hated the Russians like ALL the other guys who had played against them in 1972.
That's why Savard drafted Tretiak and made a serious effort to sign him while he was still behind the iron curtain?

The only reason Tretiak never played for the Habs was the USSR govt.

Why would he continue to draft Russians after that experience?

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01-12-2012, 07:04 AM
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Here are some ideas:

President: Serge Savard(or Ken Dryden...whoever doesn't get the job can be in an advisor, or vice-president role...yes, Molson would have to fire himself from the President's position since he currently holds the Owner/President post).

GM: Vincent Damphousse(or guys like Denis Savard, Claude Lemieux, and Pierre Turgeon, again whoever doesn't get the job can be assistants or advisors.....this would take care of the call for guys between 35 and 50 running the team, stated earlier in this thread).

Coach: Patrick Roy(with guys like Larry Robinson, and Jacques Lemaire as assistants...they wouldn't be interested in the Head coaching position in a "hot head" city like Montreal, but I believe they could be persuaded to take assistant coaching jobs).

Scouting Staff: Keep the same staff for the time being.

These steps would address all language issues, while providing strong voices on the ice. Management can get rid of all
"smurfs", and bring in a fast, tough, talented, physical team, with the excuse that former management had signed the current
team, and that they wanted to go in a different direction.(No attachment to any current team members = no problem getting rid
of anyone on the current roster which would make the team better).

Let it rip trolls!! Tell me how this situation would be WORSE!!!, than what they have now.
You talk about building a physical team yet you want one of softest NHL players of all-time (Pierre Turgeon) to be on your team of inexperienced builders????

I guess I'm just a troll because I think your ideas are completely out to lunch.

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01-12-2012, 07:51 AM
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I would love to see what Geoff Molson do what Mark Davis did with the Raiders.

Al died and Mark knew he needed to build a modern organization instead of the Old Man running everything. But he didn't need to go outside the family, he interviewed GMs with his team's old coach, John Madden, and his dad's old right hand man, Ron Wolf. The knowledge was already there, and the GM they hired is an ex-Raider who did great things with the Packers.

Have Serge and Claude Ruel there talking with Molson about how to rebuild the organization. Call Scotty, I'm sure he'd give you his two cents. Call Jacques Lemaire, Larry Robinson and Ken Dryden and get their ideas, then go hire the right guy and let him pick a coach.

Look at the Celtics, who saved the Celtics? A former Celtic.
Not just for advices, Lemaire and Scotty would be great as a management team. Look at the Wings, they have many cooks. And hire a young GM to go along with that.

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That's why Savard drafted Tretiak and made a serious effort to sign him while he was still behind the iron curtain?

The only reason Tretiak never played for the Habs was the USSR govt.

Why would he continue to draft Russians after that experience?
Or rather Tretiak didn't want to leave his family behind.

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Okay, I"ll break it down for you.

Savard - Probably wouldn't accept the position. Busy with outside interests.

Dryden - See Savard

Damphousse/D.Savard/C. Lemieux/Turgeon - We need someone with experience in this vital position. Or at the very least, experience being an assistant GM. Throwing one of these four in as GM would be team suicide IMO.

Roy - Interesting, I'm on the fence on whether he'd be able to handle NHL players.

Robinson - Has a nice comfy job with the Devils. So I highly doubt he'd leave to come back to Montreal.

Lemaire - This spring he stated that he was "fully retired" from coaching. So it's possible, but highly unlikely that he'd change his mind.
But in Lemaire's case he never said anything about managing, though. This is the kind of challenge that is too interesting to pass up.

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Or rather Tretiak didn't want to leave his family behind.
Not the case. He confirmed again on the radio last Saturday, that he wanted to come to the Habs but was blocked. That's why he retired because he was still playing at a very high level at the time.

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Why Julien Brisebois? He has a puss team in Tampa and Montreal isn'T going to get tougher with him.
Exacty sir. His idea of a great find is bringing a waste of a player like Bruno Gervais in Tampa.

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Yes, the QMJISL (Quebec Major Junior Ice-Soccer League) is a puss league in a puss province. It's even worst when you know that the socialist govt. of Quebec decides how the game should be played - without toughness.

AND... Don Cherry was right, even though I myself am a French Speaking Quebecer.
We need more people like this in this province.


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Not the case. He confirmed again on the radio last Saturday, that he wanted to come to the Habs but was blocked. That's why he retired because he was still playing at a very high level at the time.
He was blocked by he wouldn't go into other more dangerous roots to go west because of his family. A la what the Stastnys did.

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You don't get it at all do you? Dinner? Really? This is an amazing time to go into speculative rampage. Grab the opportunity! Just like when Subban threw his clothes on the floor of the dressing room and Gill called him out on it! Extrapolate! And if someone comes out with a crazy theory, you one-up him and out-crazy him.



And that, my friends, is how you get back in the game.
yeah it could have been just a dinner meeting, people meet for dinner ya clown

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He was blocked by he wouldn't go into other more dangerous roots to go west because of his family. A la what the Stastnys did.
The original post was saying Savard hated Russians. The attempt to bring Tretiak over disproves that and that was my point.

You can listen to Tretiak discussing it here:

http://podcast.tsn.ca/tsnradio/Habs_...av_Tretiak.mp3

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The best GM for the habs would be me. I have no experience, no credibility, but I would promise you two stanley cups (minimum) in the next 15 years.

If I don't deliver them, I agree to reimburse all my salary and be hanged on the public place.

Who votes for me?
You ruined your campaign with your opening statement. Interesting.

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That Rob Lowe movie was never that good.

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Bruins fan, i come in Peace.

Not sure why some people are blasting the idea of Savard returning as a president or a GM for this franchise. Savard's long time relationship with the Molson family is well known and i doubt very much that Savard would have lost all his hockey knowledge. You don't lose your ability to judge talent because you left the hockey world... Let's speculate and say that Savard become the Gm. We all know that he would be smart enough to hire an assistant who would update him on various issues. I'm not seeing this as a problem per se. I'm gonna add that since Serge Savard, there was very few successful GM aside, maybe, Andre savard...

You, guys, need a MAJOR overhaul as the same as Boston did a few years ago. Some fans are totally in love with Timmins but quite franckly, the results are not very good. Price, Plekanec and Subban were very good selection but... when you look at other teams read Boston, they have 4 drafted players ( Bergeron, Krecji, Marchand and Lucic ) in their top 6. I would say that, at least, two of them are impact players. Biggest problem when you don't have depth or the farm system to fill your needs is that you have to overpay on the UFA market. Rangers, a few years ago, were a prime example on how things can turn sour quickly when you rely on the UFA market to " build " your team.

Molson have a lot of decision to make and i think that if he's really serious about building a top contender, he will be willing to eat a TON of money by burying Gomez in the minors and maybe buy out some contracts. Still can't believe that Gauthier traded for Kaberle abd his backloaded contract... Don't think that i doesn't feel your pain. My Bruins were stuck in that s***-o-rama pattern for years before the Chiarelli era. I'm on the " good " side on the fence now but it took 2-3 very bad years and a good drafting process to get out of it...


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Bring in Damphousse and Roy, the wife beating superteam!
I shouldn't have laughed at that one but.... I did, and I am still smiling.

Thanks, I am having a ****** week/month/year.

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Disagree, the nude scene was worth it all... they don't build them natural like Cynthia Gibb any more.

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I'd rather keep Gauthier than hire Savard and that's saying something. Keep these retreads away from the habs please.

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Bruins fan, i come in Peace.

Not sure why some people are blasting the idea of Savard returning as a president or a GM for this franchise. Savard's long time relationship with the Molson family is well known and i doubt very much that Savard would have lost all his hockey knowledge. You don't lose your ability to judge talent because you left the hockey world... Let's speculate and say that Savard become the Gm. We all know that he would be smart enough to hire an assistant who would update him on various issues. I'm not seeing this as a problem per se. I'm gonna add that since Serge Savard, there was very few successful GM aside, maybe, Andre savard...

You, guys, need a MAJOR overhaul as the same as Boston did a few years ago. Some fans are totally in love with Timmins but quite franckly, the results are not very good. Price, Plekanec and Subban were very good selection but... when you look at other teams read Boston, they have 4 drafted players ( Bergeron, Krecji, Marchand and Lucic ) in their top 6. I would say that, at least, two of them are impact players. Biggest problem when you don't have depth or the farm system to fill your needs is that you have to overpay on the UFA market. Rangers, a few years ago, were a prime example on how things can turn sour quickly when you rely on the UFA market to " build " your team.

Molson have a lot of decision to make and i think that if he's really serious about building a top contender, he will be willing to eat a TON of money by burying Gomez in the minors and maybe buy out some contracts. Still can't believe that Gauthier traded for Kaberle abd his backloaded contract... Don't think that i doesn't feel your pain. My Bruins were stuck in that s***-o-rama pattern for years before the Chiarelli era. I'm on the " good " side on the fence now but it took 2-3 very bad years and a good drafting process to get out of it...

True but President and GM are 2 completely different things. He hasn't managed a team in so long and never managed one under a cap. The players aren't the same today as they were 20 years ago. I have no problem with the him being the President or even as a consultant but GM would be a mistake IMHO

Yes we need to go that route at least 2 more seasons since we are stuck with a lot of bad contracts. We'll see what the next GM can do, this hoping Gauthier is fired

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He should meet with Gomez and tell him to GTFO then get a real top line center.

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Does he stop at the bank first?

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