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View Poll Results: Which would you draft this upcoming summer?
Mikhail Grigorenko 53 42.40%
Nail Yakupov 54 43.20%
Other 18 14.40%
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01-11-2012, 06:37 PM
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Galchenyuk makes me nervous. Missing a season might mean nothing, but it might have seriously warped his development. We don't know.

He should still be high up on the boards, but I'd put him behind Forsberg because of that. Still a top 5 guy for us considering we need to come out of this draft with forwards.

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01-11-2012, 06:40 PM
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He'll play about as much as Connolly did during his draft year, and they'll be mostly playoff games, so we'll be able to get a better read on him then.

If he hasn't lost his step, you'd be a fool not to pick him.
Agreed. If he makes it back full-strength for the POs and delivers like he has in the past, we have to take him! Keep in mind, I'm only going on youtube footage and scouting reports, but he seems to represent everything we need in a top-line center.
I've also read he's a born leader.

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01-11-2012, 06:42 PM
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Agreed. If he makes it back full-strength for the POs and delivers like he has in the past, we have to take him! Keep in mind, I'm only going on youtube footage and scouting reports, but he seems to represent everything we need in a top-line center.
I've also read he's a born leader.
His background adds to his appeal. Comes from a hockey family, lived in many places and so is familiar with both North American and European hockey. Multilingual - Speaks English, Russian, Italian, which also means he should be able to pick up some French.

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01-11-2012, 06:56 PM
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Like I said in the other tread. The only issue with Hudon is size. No doubt in my mind we should pick him in the 2nd.
I'm not convinced he'll be available when we pick in the 2nd, but if he's there; absolutely.

The guy knows how to score goals.

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01-11-2012, 07:32 PM
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I'm not convinced he'll be available when we pick in the 2nd, but if he's there; absolutely.

The guy knows how to score goals.
It would be a toss up for me if we acquired a 1rst round pick from a playoff team.

Going on need- Gaunce
Going on Talent- Hudon

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01-11-2012, 08:12 PM
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Another guy that seems interesting from the Mid Term Rankings is Lukas Sutter. Heavy guy (199) and is 6 Foot. He has impressive numbers good numbers (35 PTS in 40 GP) and has 96 penalty minutes. Seems like a big guy that can score and throw the body.

EDIT: Checked out this name on Youtube. He can fight.

He would be a perfect late round pickup. I actually don't know why he isn't higher on the list.
He would be except that he'll be picked in the 2nd round, IMO.

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01-11-2012, 08:33 PM
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I want Radek Faska. VERY intriguing IMO and the habs should take a long look at him.

Matej Beran is also intriguing for the second round.

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He would be except that he'll be picked in the 2nd round, IMO.
I would take him in the 2nd round. He seems like a Lucic type player or Clowe.

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Galchenyuk makes me nervous. Missing a season might mean nothing, but it might have seriously warped his development. We don't know.

He should still be high up on the boards, but I'd put him behind Forsberg because of that. Still a top 5 guy for us considering we need to come out of this draft with forwards.
Agreed.

At his age, losing an entire year of developpement is not great. We shouldn't expecting him to play in the NHL as soon as next season, contrary to Yakupov, Grigorenko and Forsberg.

But because we lack high end talent with size at the centre position, I would still take a chance on him. He's high risk, but very high rewards... although, he's my fourth choice.

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01-11-2012, 10:55 PM
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It would be a toss up for me if we acquired a 1rst round pick from a playoff team.

Going on need- Gaunce
Going on Talent- Hudon
I'm betting Gaunce won't be around past pick 15.

Depending on what service you use, he's everywhere from a top 10 pick in some to end of the first round in others.

I bet some team will use an early pick on him, it only takes one team to really like him and he's off the board.

Big powerful centes are the type of guys that one team will fall in love with.

In fact I could see the Habs taking him if they pick in the 7-10 range; which we could.

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01-11-2012, 11:05 PM
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Mikhail Grigorenko is still the prospect we should target the most in this draft. He is everything we need. But if he's not available, Alex Galchenyuk is definitely the player we should draft. Brett Connolly did only play 16 games and it didn't stop him from being pick 6th overall. And also, Galchenyuk is a much better prospect than Connolly.

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01-11-2012, 11:14 PM
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Mikhail Grigorenko is still the prospect we should target the most in this draft. He is everything we need. But if he's not available, Alex Galchenyuk is definitely the player we should draft. Brett Connolly did only play 16 games and it didn't stop him from being pick 6th overall. And also, Galchenyuk is a much better prospect than Connolly.
Hey, if we got Grigorenko, I'm on board 100%. FWIW, I think Eller could be our Lemaire to Yakupov's Lafleur, but I would much rather a Russian Beliveau.

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01-12-2012, 12:44 AM
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I think if we won the lotto it has to be Yakupov. I definitely wouldn't be upset with Grigorenko, both players have elite potential, but Yakupov just has that something extra I don't see in Grigorenko. Girgorenko is a lot like Malkin but lacks that fluid skating, Yakupov has that elite skating that I think brings him closer to being a sure bet to be able to put up triple digits in the NHL.

Unless something changes between now and the draft I think whoever picks first is all but guaranteed to pick Yakupov. I know everyone wants that big centre to build around but I think even Eller or Pleks would look that much better next to a guy like Nail.

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should be interesting to follow Hudon for the rest of the year. Yesterday he was on the same line as Pageau and Asselin. Hudon-Pageau-Asselin, numbers will likely go up.

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I think if we won the lotto it has to be Yakupov. I definitely wouldn't be upset with Grigorenko, both players have elite potential, but Yakupov just has that something extra I don't see in Grigorenko. Girgorenko is a lot like Malkin but lacks that fluid skating, Yakupov has that elite skating that I think brings him closer to being a sure bet to be able to put up triple digits in the NHL.

Unless something changes between now and the draft I think whoever picks first is all but guaranteed to pick Yakupov. I know everyone wants that big centre to build around but I think even Eller or Pleks would look that much better next to a guy like Nail.
Pleks is a number 2 center on a good team. He's really not number 1 material. Eller might be one one day, just not now. He's still developing. With more ice time Eller might have a breakout year next year. Grigorenko screams franchise center, what we've been lacking for over a decade. It's hard to pass up on him unless we have a second first rounder in the draft.

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01-12-2012, 09:53 AM
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With the 3rd overall pick the habs are proud to select












From the CCHA Philppe DiGiuseppe

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With the 3rd overall pick the habs are proud to select...From the CCHA Philppe DiGiuseppe
With Forsberg, Galchenyuk and Murray available? Not likely.

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With Forsberg, Galchenyuk and Murray available? Not likely.

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With the 3rd overall pick the habs are proud to select












From the CCHA Philppe DiGiuseppe

Trevor Timmins after we pick him:




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The funny thing is that I would call 911 for crimes against the habs...

...and bruins fans wouldn't make fun of it.

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Pleks is a number 2 center on a good team. He's really not number 1 material. Eller might be one one day, just not now. He's still developing. With more ice time Eller might have a breakout year next year. Grigorenko screams franchise center, what we've been lacking for over a decade. It's hard to pass up on him unless we have a second first rounder in the draft.
He's better than what Boston had.

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btw, what about Coda Gordon from Swift Current?

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He's better than what Boston had.
They won a cup.

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They won a cup.
Exactly, so having Plekanec as #1 isn't the problem.

It's the top 2 highest paid wingers and highest paid center having a combined 25 points. Plus guys like Gill and Subban playing like crap, Price not having a strong year and the PP being miles from what it usually is.

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