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01-12-2012, 11:01 AM
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Hopefully we can pick our game up a little bit in this one. At least play a little more entertaining game than the last one.

5-1 Flyers win.

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01-12-2012, 11:11 AM
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You are right, and you are wrong.

He's been bad no doubt, I wouldnt say the Flyers are "stuck" with him though. They want him here, thats why he's got a long deal. Everyone that thinks his first 30 games in a Flyers jersey will amount to his career here is ignorant and near sighted.

And yes, yes they can have him sitting on the bench. It goes to show that on this team it doesnt matter how much you make, if you arent playing well, you wont play. Period. Bryz hasnt played better then Bob, so why exactly is he supposed to be entitled to play? Because he makes 4 Million more?

He actually makes 9.1 million more but I see what you're trying to say and agree. Let's go Bob!!

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01-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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He actually makes 9.1 million more but I see what you're trying to say and agree. Let's go Bob!!
No one cares about actual dollars as opposed to cap, just sayin....

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01-12-2012, 11:23 AM
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cmon i was defending bryz pretty much after every his game he played.. but bob seems to to better even tho i like bryz as person, hsi results are terrible terrible bad.
Yes defence doesnt help i know it

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01-12-2012, 11:25 AM
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01-12-2012, 11:27 AM
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deserves to
And Lavy always plays a goalie again after a good showing, weird that some thought Bryz would start ? Isles whooped the Wings, so boys better be ready !

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01-12-2012, 11:29 AM
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Player GP GS W L OT SA GA GAA Sv Sv% SO TOI
Bryzgalov 29 28 16 9 3 773 84 3.07 689 .891 1 1,639:37
Bobrovsky 16 13 9 3 1 418 34 2.45 384 .919 0 833:17

Bryz = 16-12, 3.07, .891
Bob = 9-4, 2.45, .919

I'm afraid if Bob gets more starts his stats will start to look like Bryz's, and then your in big trouble. This sounds like the Redskins of this year (replacing the crappy grossman for beck with a winning record, had Beck fail and then went back to grossman with the season lost) or the capitals goalie problems a few years ago. I think the best thing to do is just weather the storm for a few more weeks, they are still in a great position in the east sitting at #4 and threatening for the #1 spot. I hear you guys complaining about how bad the defense is, and when i watch it seems like Bryz get's 1-2 VERY unlikely goals every single game that i don't see how you can blame it on him.. crazy deflections and bounces can rarely be stopped. You can argue that he could be in better position, but come on.. the defense is horrible. You guys are probably stuck with Bryz, he needs to work here. Why would anyone trade for him?!?!? You can't sign a goalie to an outrageous contract and have him sitting on the bench.
Bob has played about half of the games Bryz has... so for his stats to look like Bryz's if roles were reversed and Bob plays double the games Bryz does:

First half:

Bob:16 gp, SA 418, GA 34, GAA 2.45, SV 384, SV% .919, 833:17 mins

Second half:

Bob: 29 gp, SA 800, GA 99, GAA 3.36 , SV 701, GAA SV% .876, 1766.43 mins (over 60 mins per game, not realistic but has to be done to make the stats identical.)

Whole year:

Bob: 45 gp, SA 1218, GA 133, GAA 3.07 , SV 1085, SV% .891, 2600 mins

Funnily enough it is actually impossible for Bob to put up Bryz's stats over the whole year, even if he played as much as Bryz has, as to let in enough goals to lower his goal against average that much he would have to play over 60mins a game through 29 games, letting in 3.36 goals per game and having a .876% sv percentage.

Only Alex Auld, DiPietro and Brent Johnson have those kind of figures, so Bob would have to turn into the worst goalie in the league, and somehow manage to play 29 games without being pulled, in order to make his stats look like Bryz's by season end.

Did not realize just how bad Bryz's stats were compared to Bob's until I worked this out! I too thought a few games may be able to make Bryz's respectable, and Bob's really bad. Obviously not.

And if you make the mins played more realistic through the second half Bob would play about 1650 mins, due to being pulled etc, 27.5 games, with 99 GA, this would be 3.6 GAA, which over the year would be approx 3.20 GAA, compared to if Bryz played exactly the same as he has been, a 3.06 GAA. So they would have exactly the same SV%, yet Bob would have allowed more goals against per game.

I realize that stats do lie, and Bob would have to play so badly in a bigger sample it may skew the stats, but the fact that if Bob played like Bryz had over a whole year he would have more Goals against average by 0.14, this indicates that the defense is actually playing quite well in front of Bryzgalov.

If anyone sees any mistakes I am more than happy to be corrected, did not do Maths at Degree level, even though at one point I very much wanted too.


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01-12-2012, 11:40 AM
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No one cares about actual dollars as opposed to cap, just sayin....

Ed Snider, the team owner and reason we got Bryz doesn't care?

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01-12-2012, 11:44 AM
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Ed Snider, the team owner and reason we got Bryz doesn't care?
No their pockets are extremely deep... In the cap era the only thing that matters is the cap hit, nothing more.

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01-12-2012, 11:46 AM
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No their pockets are extremely deep... In the cap era the only thing that matters is the cap hit, nothing more.

So what you're trying to tell me is that Ed Snider who is paying Bryz $10 million this year as opposed to $900k for Bob could care less that Bob is playing better and getting the start over Bryz? Is that what you're saying?

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01-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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glad to hear Lavi is playing Bob again..

i was worried he might have to much backstage pressure to get Bryz back in..

good job Lavi...

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01-12-2012, 11:49 AM
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So what you're trying to tell me is that Ed Snider who is paying Bryz $10 million this year as opposed to $900k for Bob could care less that Bob is playing better and getting the start over Bryz? Is that what you're saying?
Haha, i dont know how many rich people you know..

but i dont know a single one who would happily pay 10M$ for something they can get away with spending 1M$ on..

rich people are uber cheap ********.. thats why they are rich

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01-12-2012, 11:52 AM
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Haha, i dont know how many rich people you know..

but i dont know a single one who would happily pay 10M$ for something they can get away with spending 1M$ on..

rich people are uber cheap ********.. thats why they are rich

I know a few and I completely agree with you. So you are agreeing with me then right? Or am I not following you?

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glad to hear Lavi is playing Bob again..

i was worried he might have to much backstage pressure to get Bryz back in..good job Lavi...

Do you follow the Flyers, Lavy goes with hot hand almost to a fault .

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01-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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Gus, Rinaldo and Superstar are the scratches according to twitter

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01-12-2012, 12:22 PM
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Gus, Rinaldo and Superstar are the scratches according to twitter
Gus should be in for Bourdon, just my opinion. The kid needs a break. Let's put a whooping on the Fishsticks.

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01-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Gus should be in for Bourdon, just my opinion. The kid needs a break. Let's put a whooping on the Fishsticks.
One reason I could see Gus not playing is because he was still having trouble taking slap shots with out pain in his wrist. They might just be holding out until he is 100% before reinserting him into the lineup

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01-12-2012, 12:26 PM
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I'd rather sit Lilja, though maybe they fear our d would be too weak physically, it has been one of the main problems recently and on paper at least it would get even worse with Gustafsson in there instead of Lilja.

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01-12-2012, 12:34 PM
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I know a few and I completely agree with you. So you are agreeing with me then right? Or am I not following you?
100% agree with the gist of ur original post..

sorry for confusion..

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Gus, Rinaldo and Superstar are the scratches according to twitter
wow so we chose Lilja over Zac. ???

/facepalm

Zac. might not be the best hockey player to ever lace skates but at leasrt hes not the total **** show that lilja is when he touchs the puck..

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This is it. Bob's first full shutout.

I can feel it in my joints.

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wow so we chose Lilja over Zac. ???

/facepalm

Zac. might not be the best hockey player to ever lace skates but at leasrt hes not the total **** show that lilja is when he touchs the puck..
One's a d-man, the other a forward. Lilja was chosen over Gustafsson, more so.

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One's a d-man, the other a forward. Lilja was chosen over Gustafsson, more so.
Lilja is a Dman ?

oh thats my confusion then, i thought he was simply a waste of roster space..

hahah...

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This is it. Bob's first full shutout.

I can feel it in my joints.
You must feel it in your groin for it to really happen.

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