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01-11-2012, 12:25 PM
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Montoya Calls for More Goalie Safety

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Al Montoya got another good on-ice workout Tuesday, his second straight day in a practice setting as he slowly recovers from a concussion. But Montoya's words came out fast and furiously when discussing how he ended up with a concussion, and why he feels the NHL needs to do more to protect its goaltenders.

"They've got to look at that situation again," Montoya said. "There has to be a point where a guy who's driving to the net has to be able to pull up and back off."

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Stronger Dmen would help more then anything the NHL can do.

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Actually what's needed is larger rinks, and better referees. The NHL Players are playing on the same size rinks as they were back in the 1930's. Meanwhile, they've gotten bigger (by a lot) and faster (by a lot), so there is a lot less room to skate, and more contact. I would love to see a study as far as concussions in the European Leagues (larger rinks) vs the NHL.

Also, the refs have to enforce things. Maybe even make the crease area a little more off limits like back in the 90's and early 00's.

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I said it once and I'll say it again, he was ran 4-5 times in a row in the last 5-6 games he played before going out with injury. He was consistently ran at/into, don't know if intentional or not but it was concerning to me.

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At some point the NHL should look into enforcing goalie safety better, but until then it's on our team on the ice to protect our netminder. We need our Hayley making people aware there is a price to pay for those kinds of actions. Unfortunately this is just the reality of the situation.

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Don't goalies get hit in the face by slap shots?

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Stronger Dmen would help more then anything the NHL can do.
You couldn't be more wrong.

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Boo hoo our goalie gets run we are a soft team boo hoo

Meanwhile Lundquist gets run at all the time and the Rangers never do ****. But look at them a top the league standings. Chara is literally the biggest player in the NHL and Thomas its angriest goalie. He still gets ran from time to time.

If you don't win why is it always because of a lack of grit/softness? Happens n every single ******* sport, maybe its more to do with talent then a players ability to punch people or how big he is.


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Don't goalies get hit in the face by slap shots?
If we had stronger d-men they could will those pucks to bend like bullets in Wanted by way of The Force.

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Actually what's needed is larger rinks, and better referees. The NHL Players are playing on the same size rinks as they were back in the 1930's. Meanwhile, they've gotten bigger (by a lot) and faster (by a lot), so there is a lot less room to skate, and more contact. I would love to see a study as far as concussions in the European Leagues (larger rinks) vs the NHL.

Also, the refs have to enforce things. Maybe even make the crease area a little more off limits like back in the 90's and early 00's.
While definitly not the only reason. I actually agree with this poster and can see how this would certainly not help the situation and likely does play a part and I too would like a comparission vs European leagues.

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While definitly not the only reason. I actually agree with this poster and can see how this would certainly not help the situation and likely does play a part and I too would like a comparission vs European leagues.
Mandate all pads be designed smaller and softer and the problems go away. Give a bigger rink and Phaneuf still runs guys head first into boards and guys run Monty because he's our only hope in some game. Look at when the incidents multiplied and when the severity increased and you'll see it was in the '90's when pads grew.

Fix the real problems and arenas get to keep the 1-2,000 seats needed to be removed because the real issues get skirted.

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I said it once and I'll say it again, he was ran 4-5 times in a row in the last 5-6 games he played before going out with injury. He was consistently ran at/into, don't know if intentional or not but it was concerning to me.
Yep, and his teammates never did anything about it, and that's why they kept running him. Anybody should have been able to see that concussion coming, I know I did.

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Boo hoo our goalie gets run we are a soft team boo hoo

Meanwhile Lundquist gets run at all the time and the Rangers never do ****. But look at them a top the league standings. Chara is literally the biggest player in the NHL and Thomas its angriest goalie. He still gets ran from time to time.

If you don't win why is it always because of a lack of grit/softness? Happens n every single ******* sport, maybe its more to do with talent then a players ability to punch people or how big he is.

Show me where Lungvist got run and nobody did anything. I'm not buying it. I'm certainly not buying "all the time."

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Actually what's needed is larger rinks, and better referees. The NHL Players are playing on the same size rinks as they were back in the 1930's. Meanwhile, they've gotten bigger (by a lot) and faster (by a lot), so there is a lot less room to skate, and more contact. I would love to see a study as far as concussions in the European Leagues (larger rinks) vs the NHL.

Also, the refs have to enforce things. Maybe even make the crease area a little more off limits like back in the 90's and early 00's.
I think you'll find that concussions isn't much of a problem in Europe partly due to larger rinks but also because the focus is on passing the puck instead of battling for it in every corner and throwing big hits all the time.

Here in Norway talk is going on about changing the rinks into smaller NA type rinks to get the pace of the game up instead of the slower Euro style.

The problem is if they want to protect players better they may end up changing the game itself way too much so it's a difficult situation.

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Show me where Lungvist got run and nobody did anything. I'm not buying it. I'm certainly not buying "all the time."
Go to any Ranger board and its been a topic of discussion consistently for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JnoMAbsO8A

Here is Henrik Lundquist going ******* cause after one run to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YQNqkqn3M

Here is PK Subban hitting him and Sauer undressing but never even touching him.

Still not buying it? Still want to buy into to this conspiracy theory made up by fans? Go ahead.

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Islanders are literally the only team in teh NHL whose goalie gets tpouched without beheadings ensuing. Islanders only team who has guys who get injured. So on and so forth.

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Mandate all pads be designed smaller and softer and the problems go away. Give a bigger rink and Phaneuf still runs guys head first into boards and guys run Monty because he's our only hope in some game. Look at when the incidents multiplied and when the severity increased and you'll see it was in the '90's when pads grew.

Fix the real problems and arenas get to keep the 1-2,000 seats needed to be removed because the real issues get skirted.
This is true also. There are a couple ways this concussion problem can be fixed

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Go to any Ranger board and its been a topic of discussion consistently for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JnoMAbsO8A

Here is Henrik Lundquist going ******* cause after one run to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YQNqkqn3M

Here is PK Subban hitting him and Sauer undressing but never even touching him.

Still not buying it? Still want to buy into to this conspiracy theory made up by fans? Go ahead.
lol, nice try. Sauar dropped his gloves to fight after lundquist he was ran, if not for that stupid ref getting involved Sauar fights him. He was squared up ready to fight with his gloves off ready to fight. Where were the Islanders while our goalie was ran about 20 times thuis season? No where hiding like cowards. What about cheap shot hits, like Fristic ect, what happened to him? I can come up with countless times our guys have been Ran from the Frritic incident, to montoya getting ran to Tavaras getting ran all the time, and guess what no one on this team EVER does a damn thing.
The FACT is that the Bruins and Rangers would never let this many cheap shots go unanswered like this Islanders team does without doing anything about it.
Dont even try to compare those teams with ours when it comes to sticking up for eachother, because anyone who watches those 2 teams knows they are 2 of the toughest teams and both teams have plenty of tough players/ fighters willing to defend the honor of their teammates. This Islanders team doesent and never does, thats the problem.
Please, dont even mention the Rangers and Bruins when comparing to our team in regards of sticking up for eachother. The Rangers and Bruins have their players back. The Rangers are 1st in the NHL in fighting majors and the Bruins are 3rd in fighting Majors this season. I have watched those teams play all year, for the most part those 2 teams would not allow AS MANY CHEAPSHOTS as our team does and thats a fact, that cant be debated.

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Thats a whole lot of words saying a whole lot of nothing.

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The posts in this thread are an insult to spelling, grammar and usage.

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Well, if the damn goalies weren't so bloody tall now they could just submarine those big players like Marchand on Salo when they come flying in!

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Thats a whole lot of words saying a whole lot of nothing.
I guess this is all you can come up after being proved to be uninformen when it comes to this issue.
You tried imply that the Rangers and Bruins let their players and goalies get ran and do nothing about it like the Islanders. Dont even try to compare the Rangers or Bruins to our Islanders. They do not let the cheapshots go unanswered night after night like our team does. Anyone who watches those two teams know they are the 2 of the toughest teams in the league who stand up for their teammates. So dont try and act that our team does what the Rags and Bruins do. Those 2 teams have eachothers backs and WOULD NOT ALLOW as many cheap go unanswered like THIS ISLANDER TEAM DOES .
How many times did our goalie get ran last year when we iced a tougher lineup? I think that answer speaks volumes.

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I guess this is all you can come up after being proved to be uninformen when it comes to this issue.
You tried imply that the Rangers and Bruins let their players and goalies get ran and do nothing about it like the Islanders. Dont even try to compare the Rangers or Bruins to our Islanders. They do not let the cheapshots go unanswered night after night like our team does. Anyone who watches those two teams know they are the 2 of the toughest teams in the league who stand up for their teammates. So dont try and act that our team does what the Rags and Bruins do. Those 2 teams have eachothers backs and WOULD NOT ALLOW as many cheap go unanswered like THIS ISLANDER TEAM DOES .
How many times did our goalie get ran last year when we iced a tougher lineup? I think that answer speaks volumes.
This.

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Go to any Ranger board and its been a topic of discussion consistently for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JnoMAbsO8A

Here is Henrik Lundquist going ******* cause after one run to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YQNqkqn3M

Here is PK Subban hitting him and Sauer undressing but never even touching him.

Still not buying it? Still want to buy into to this conspiracy theory made up by fans? Go ahead.
OMG, did you just show two videos that had a response to show how they never stick up for their goalie? LMAO.

This is no response, not only did they not respond, they let kane ***** about a 2 minute call.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDjlZW837WE

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lol, nice try. Sauar dropped his gloves to fight after lundquist he was ran, if not for that stupid ref getting involved Sauar fights him. He was squared up ready to fight with his gloves off ready to fight. Where were the Islanders while our goalie was ran about 20 times thuis season? No where hiding like cowards. What about cheap shot hits, like Fristic ect, what happened to him? I can come up with countless times our guys have been Ran from the Frritic incident, to montoya getting ran to Tavaras getting ran all the time, and guess what no one on this team EVER does a damn thing.
The FACT is that the Bruins and Rangers would never let this many cheap shots go unanswered like this Islanders team does without doing anything about it.
Dont even try to compare those teams with ours when it comes to sticking up for eachother, because anyone who watches those 2 teams knows they are 2 of the toughest teams and both teams have plenty of tough players/ fighters willing to defend the honor of their teammates. This Islanders team doesent and never does, thats the problem.
Please, dont even mention the Rangers and Bruins when comparing to our team in regards of sticking up for eachother. The Rangers and Bruins have their players back. The Rangers are 1st in the NHL in fighting majors and the Bruins are 3rd in fighting Majors this season. I have watched those teams play all year, for the most part those 2 teams would not allow AS MANY CHEAPSHOTS as our team does and thats a fact, that cant be debated.
Actually Hammer stuck up for Montoya early in the year. But he's the only one I remember.

And yes, how many people Ran our goalie after that Pens game last year? Yet these people try act like this is untrue. Go watch the Canucks. I don't want to be the Canucks.

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