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01-12-2012, 04:38 PM
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Honestly feel like the Rangers are overachieving so far this season, but they are still a great team. I catch enough Ranger games that I can say they have a chance to beat Boston due to the sole fact that Lundqvist steals more games than any other goaltender in the NHL.

Watch more games this year. He does it from time to time, but this years team is far better, whereas he doesn't have to steal the game.

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01-12-2012, 04:42 PM
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Bruins. They've played like champions after their slow start and are THE team to beat, east or west. Unless something drastic happens, I think they win it all again this year.

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01-12-2012, 04:43 PM
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Look at the goals for and the goals against in relation to the rest of their conference.

They've scored nearly 30 more goals than the Rangers and allowed almost 10 fewer ....

A class by themselves by fairly large margin.
well dag gone. he said it guys, wrap it up and end the thread. this guy looked at the stats and figured it all out.

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Come on man....

The Bruins have scored more goals than anyone in the league and have allowed fewer than anyone in the league. +70 is insane. I'm not trying to take away from anyone else's success but nobody is in their class.
That high already!? Last I checked I thought we were "just" +50ish...

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well dag gone. he said it guys, wrap it up and end the thread. this guy looked at the stats and figured it all out.
If more people came to this realization the world would be right more often.

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01-12-2012, 04:47 PM
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Bruins adv . Both teams are very strong everywhere though. The difference between the two teams are the Bruins have Chara and probably the best 4th line in the league. The rangers on the other hand have elite forwards in Gaborik and Richards.

But a scary thing that can happen for the Bruins and rest of the league would be if the rangers acquired either Weber or Suter or equivalent D by the trade deadline. Rangers would be one of the few teams that have cap space and assets to get a stud D

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Bruins would win a series most likely. It would be closer than many think but the bruins may have that playoff confidence / experience rangers don't have after last year

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01-12-2012, 04:52 PM
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I think the Rangers match up well against the Bruins and we can take them the distance in 7 games.

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01-12-2012, 04:52 PM
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I'm sure you watch a ton of Boston and NYR games to be able to nail it down that well. give me a break
You are right, I do actually. No team that gets dominated by the Leafs is going to knock off a healthy Bruins squad. Only giving the Rangers 2 games because of their goalie.

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01-12-2012, 04:54 PM
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Look at the goals for and the goals against in relation to the rest of their conference.

They've scored nearly 30 more goals than the Rangers and allowed almost 10 fewer ....

A class by themselves by fairly large margin.
Vancouver was a 'class by themselves' last year as well and many people wrote off Boston.

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01-12-2012, 04:56 PM
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how bout we figure out who the best team is come april/may/june. as of right now, the "class" of the NHL is the Rangers as PROVEN in the standings. we have beaten a tougher list of opponents than the bruins (based on winning percentage) and have more remaining home games than the bruins too if i recall correctly. the road to the cup for the east will be going through NYC this year ladies and gentlemen.

you heard it here first!

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01-12-2012, 04:57 PM
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Honestly feel like the Rangers are overachieving so far this season, but they are still a great team. I catch enough Ranger games that I can say they have a chance to beat Boston due to the sole fact that Lundqvist steals more games than any other goaltender in the NHL.
How many times are you gonna mention that Lundqvist is the only reason to the Rangers success this year?

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Bruins adv . Both teams are very strong everywhere though. The difference between the two teams are the Bruins have Chara and probably the best 4th line in the league. The rangers on the other hand have elite forwards in Gaborik and Richards.

But a scary thing that can happen for the Bruins and rest of the league would be if the rangers acquired either Weber or Suter or equivalent D by the trade deadline. Rangers would be one of the few teams that have cap space and assets to get a stud D
Don't forget the B's have plenty of cap space too though.

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01-12-2012, 04:59 PM
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how bout we figure out who the best team is come april/may/june. as of right now, the "class" of the NHL is the Rangers as PROVEN in the standings. we have beaten a tougher list of opponents than the bruins (based on winning percentage) and have more remaining home games than the bruins too if i recall correctly. the road to the cup for the east will be going through NYC this year ladies and gentlemen.

you heard it here first!
You forgot the

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01-12-2012, 05:02 PM
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You forgot the
no, i didnt.

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01-12-2012, 05:04 PM
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You are right, I do actually. No team that gets dominated by the Leafs is going to knock off a healthy Bruins squad. Only giving the Rangers 2 games because of their goalie.
didn't you guys lose to Carolina 4-1?
didn't you lose to Montreal?
Winnepeg?
Dallas?

See how lame that sounds?

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01-12-2012, 05:08 PM
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The beast of the East? A healthy Pittsburgh

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01-12-2012, 05:09 PM
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If both teams show up to the matchup on Jan 21st, we'll get a feel for it. There's also a chance we'll get no answers at all. For example if one of the teams has a bad day (though to be fair, they've been fairly rare for both teams) we might learn absolutely nothing.

It's important not to look at the score too much, especially in a tight game. If it's decided by 1-2 goals but otherwise an even affair, don't put too much stock in the score. Rather, look at the flow of the game, who can maintain pressure and who can't. Which team is more likely to give up odd man rushes, and so on. That's the telling part, not how many pucks actually trickle in at the end of the day.

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01-12-2012, 05:11 PM
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Don't forget the B's have plenty of cap space too though.
We do, but little to no assets to give up. 1st round pick is like a 2nd round pick. Our most valuable young players Seguin, Marchand, Hamilton, Rask are going nowhere.

Not sure what dangling Boychuk, Kelly could get you.

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01-12-2012, 05:11 PM
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bruins....+70 differential...
if they had not started slow cause of the SC hangover, they'd be first overall.

They're deep and have the right attitude and all the momentum in the world right now

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01-12-2012, 05:15 PM
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The beast of the East? A healthy Pittsburgh

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01-12-2012, 05:16 PM
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Rangers are overachieving as a team right now.

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01-12-2012, 05:17 PM
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We do, but little to no assets to give up. 1st round pick is like a 2nd round pick. Our most valuable young players Seguin, Marchand, Hamilton, Rask are going nowhere.

Not sure what dangling Boychuk, Kelly could get you.
Good point, but I was thinking more from the B's perspective of adding a little depth, not so much a stud like Suter. Though that'd be pretty awesome.

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01-12-2012, 05:17 PM
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Bruins. But Rangers would be next.

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Just a statistical comparison

NYR 27-9-4, .725%, 2.90g/gm, 2.00 ga/gm, 27.8 sog, 29.7 soga, 50.3% FO
Bos 27-11-1, .705%, 3.67 g/gm, 1.92 ga/gm, 32.9 sog, 31.2 soga, 56.1% FO

Special teams
NYR PP-15.2%, PK-86.8%
Bos PP-19%, PK-86.3%

5-on-5 Ratio
NYR 1.35, +62
Bos 2.06, +32

Can't wait to see how they matchup head-to-head.

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