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01-12-2012, 08:34 PM
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O'Boyle Rules (the Brian Boyle predicament)

After tonight's game against Ottawa (let alone the way he's been playing on this team), I think all Blueshirts fans are wondering what on earth he's doing. What do we do? Does Torts play with lines in practice, mixing him with players more likely to hasten his game? Does he get time in Hartford? Has he become a full-time grinder?

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01-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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There IS no predicament, besides the great BM reference.

He's a 4th liner who Torts plays too much. I love Torts, but that's been one of his weaknesses this season. Boyle is not going to succeed when he's expected to bring offense and stop top lines because more often then not that's not who he is. Let him go against 2nd and 3rd liners, protect his ice time more, let him PK, and he'll be a beneficial part of this team. As a FOURTH LINER.

THAT'S the only problem- his defense is NOT deteriorating (really? 09/10 Boyle was a completely useless waste of space, this Boyle is decent defensively and is a good PKer) Put him where he should be.

He's starting to become this seasons whipping boy because he had a fluke year last year.

Wolski-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Richie-Cally
Hags-Arty-Feds
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Bam, no more relying on Boyle to score 20 goals again.

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Torts calls out top lines, says he got "squat" from them. Says Boyle's line was best line but can't be for the Rangers.

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01-12-2012, 09:06 PM
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Boyle's line was the best line because Hags and Feds were surging but Boyle couldn't finish anything, or get anything set up, or really do anything beneficial.

He had an awful night. I really hope Torts sees this.

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Boyle played well tonight. Do you really expect him to score? The real problem were the "top" guys

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01-12-2012, 09:09 PM
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Boyle can't bury chances, but he was far from the problem.

Richards, based on expectations has been a steaming pile of crap for a long time now, I don't get how he constantly avoids blame.

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01-12-2012, 09:17 PM
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Boyle was attrocious tonight. Fedotenko and Hagelin were great tonight, Boyle was just "there". Would love to see Anismov back down to the 3rd line so Boyle goes where he belongs. One more thing gotta love how Anisimov got benched when Boyle really was the one who messed that play up. Arty tries a tap pass to him to get an odd man rush going and Boyle is lost in the nuetral zone looking back into the defensive zone. Bottom line, I like him and he's not really a problem but he gets WAY too much icetime.

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Sorry, but Boyle looked like he was using a field hockey stick. He cannot handle the puck, and double shifting him with Fedotenko when you are trailing is useless.

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Boyle losing board battles twice against Karlson is worrisome. But I agree with Blueshirtblitz give him a role he can handle.

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Trade for a top 6 rental winger, move Anisimov to 3rd line C........Boyle to 4th with Prust and they also PK..........its gonna happen , matter of time

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I didn't say that he was the downfall of the team tonight but I do agree that he should be placed with responsibilities he can handle.

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Boyle gets way too much ice-time. Play him on the 4th line and give him PK minutes. Wolski has played center in the past. Let him center Hagelin and Fedetenko. Boyle/Rupp/Prust for the 4th line. Boyle is a flat out grinder/PK guy getting too much ice-time. He's been super frustrating this season.

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There IS no predicament, besides the great BM reference.

He's a 4th liner who Torts plays too much. I love Torts, but that's been one of his weaknesses this season. Boyle is not going to succeed when he's expected to bring offense and stop top lines because more often then not that's not who he is. Let him go against 2nd and 3rd liners, protect his ice time more, let him PK, and he'll be a beneficial part of this team. As a FOURTH LINER.

THAT'S the only problem- his defense is NOT deteriorating (really? 09/10 Boyle was a completely useless waste of space, this Boyle is decent defensively and is a good PKer) Put him where he should be.

He's starting to become this seasons whipping boy because he had a fluke year last year.

Wolski-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Richie-Cally
Hags-Arty-Feds
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Bam, no more relying on Boyle to score 20 goals again.
Good post! Agree with you about Boyle 100%. He is what he's always been except for a fluke year.

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I was at the game, Boyle looked terrible.

Turnover leading to the 1st goal.

Couldn't finish our best chance in the game leading to the 2nd goal.

Aside from that his game was just frustrating to watch. He belongs on the 4th line.

Top 6 winger. Move Dubi to 3rd line center. Move Boyle down to the 4th line. Mitchell as our healthy scratch. Waive Wolski.

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This guy is more useless than ryan hollweg...

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Boyle has been and is terrible. Sure, he kills penalties, but there's plenty of PK specialists. He can't finish, he doesn't use his body, and he can't skate. Scoring 20 goals was the biggest aberration I've seen in a while

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Boyle played well tonight. Do you really expect him to score? The real problem were the "top" guys
Exactly. No one can call Boyle out tonight, he played well. As Tortorella, correctly said in the post game conference, the top two lines did not do their job. Richards was horrible and Gaborik was pretty much invisible. You can't ask the line that is matched up all night against Ottawa's best line to do it all. It's a team game.

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We had chances to score, I thought he played really well but Brian Boyleís line canít check their top line and check the way they did, plus lead our team in scoring chances, too. I just donít think we got enough out of top guys,Ē said Tortorella, adding it was both effort and execution missing from his top players
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Exactly. No one can call Boyle out tonight, he played well. As Tortorella, correctly said in the post game conference, the top two lines did not do their job. Richards was horrible and Gaborik was pretty much invisible. You can't ask the line that is matched up all night against Ottawa's best line to do it all. It's a team game.



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But they failed at what they were supposed to do! Spezza scored twice. Michalek scored too.

They had good chances and Boyle blew them all. If we can't rely on him to score a goal every few games after getting chances like his line has been giving him, you demote him to where he should be.

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Boyle losing board battles twice against Karlson is worrisome. But I agree with Blueshirtblitz give him a role he can handle.
Have you seen Karlson's numbers? Before tonight he had 41 points in 43 games (now 43 points in 44 games) and is leading all defensemen in points. Everyone is losing battles against him.

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No, I don't think they failed, they gave up one goal at even strength. They kept the game close and even had 9 shots between them, but their teammates didn't do much of anything to help out.

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boyle is a waste. last year so far has proven to be a fluke. the guy is huge and plays like a *****. you could blow the puck off of his stick.

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Boyle was fine tonight, and that's okay... But he can't be playing the minutes he and his line did when:

A) They did not prevent goals as they were trusted to
B) Could not finish chances
C) The team is trailing/struggling to score

That line had good possession, and Hagelin was very good. But aside from those things, Boyle/Fedotenko couldn't finish (and they shouldn't be expected to), and they didn't do what they were supposed to do (shut down Spezza and co). Tortorella has done a great job this season, but I disagree with the way he used that line tonight... Heavily.

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The Boyle line had to play beyond their ability tonight in order for them to succeed. It was insanely frustrating watching them flub on scoring chances, but they were the only line that was consistently generating offense and getting pucks deep.

Had Dubinsky played tonight, I think things would have gone a little differently. Without him in the lineup, there was a lot less "jam" in the top 6. The Dubi-Richards-Cally line has done a good job of forechecking and maintaining puck possession lately. If we had that element to our top 6 today, the Boyle line wouldn't have had to be relied upon as much.

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Boyle played well tonight. Do you really expect him to score? The real problem were the "top" guys
Exactly. Anyone blaming this loss on Brian Boyle needs to get their head checked.

It's astounding reading the GDT. A masterful deflection by Spezza to tip Boyle's shot wide is somehow his fault.

Guess Ranger fans always need to blame someone

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Boyle losing board battles twice against Karlson is worrisome. But I agree with Blueshirtblitz give him a role he can handle.
How many times did he called out for this on 24/7? I can remember at least twice torts yelling at him because his play on the boards wasn't good.

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