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01-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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Does Flyers' lack of response to Steve Staios hit bother you?

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Even on clean hits, we see guys go after opposing players when there's an injury on the play.
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This one was dirty. Talbot's head swung back, he clutched it as he fell to the ice, and he stayed down for a good 12 seconds. The entire team looked pissed as they realized what happened, yet nobody went after Staios. Nobody made him answer for the hit, whether on that shift or another in the final five minutes of the game.

A problem?
Someone should have went after him for the hit....

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I dont think anyone actually saw Talbot get hit, and the players on the ice were all looking around trying to figure out what happened. The flyers are not the sabres, we respond to our players getting hit.

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01-13-2012, 02:57 PM
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there were only like 5 minutes left in the game and we were 1 goal up

nobody wanted to take a penalty at that point

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01-13-2012, 02:58 PM
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Nope it was a borderline hit and even with instant replay its still questionable as to where he actually got hit in the head. The scrums after clean hits are irritating whether for our team or against I'd much rather not be a part of them. That being said if someone goes out of there way and has a clear intent to injure on a clearly malicious play then yes they should. Not on borderline hits where even after slomo I still don't know whether he got hit int he head or chest

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No. It was tough to call if it was a hit to the head. It was a 1 goal lead with under 5 minutes left and the NYI's powerplay had looked really good..
Plus look who was out on the ice at the time Timonen, Coburn, Read and Couturier, Coburn's really the only guy out there that could have done something.

So I'm fine with them not doing anything.. Plus they meet 4 more times.

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No, for these two reasons

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there were only like 5 minutes left in the game and we were 1 goal up

nobody wanted to take a penalty at that point
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Nope it was a borderline hit and even with instant replay its still questionable as to where he actually got hit in the head. The scrums after clean hits are irritating whether for our team or against I'd much rather not be a part of them. That being said if someone goes out of there way and has a clear intent to injure on a clearly malicious play then yes they should. Not on borderline hits where even after slomo I still don't know whether he got hit int he head or chest

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Rinaldo will deal with it next game

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Rinaldo will deal with it next game
Or someone else, but yeah, this.

Get the W first in that situation, get revenge later, if Staois is still successfully clinging to life in the NHL.

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It wasn't even a dirty hit. He did not contact his head with the elbow. Why do you think Talbot stayed on the bench? If he got hit that hard in the head they are required to send him to a dark room right?

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Someone should have went after him for the hit....
remember when i said we should dress Zac. cuz this game might be chippy..

well there you go..

if Zac. is dressed for that game. Staios is bleeding for SURE !!!!

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Yes, It looked to me like Coburn at least was looking right at it. Staios skated at Talbots blind side and followed through with his elbow.

In contrast last night, Mike Richards took a 19 minute penalty for responding to a very similar "borderline" hit on Kopitar with five minutes to go in a one goal game. Gave Dallas a double minor powerplay. They scored on the second. Kings lost in a shootout. The Kings needed that extra point a whole lot more.

I think most times standing up for your teammates is more important than a point or two. Nobody in LA is upset at Richards. Nobody is questioning the King's response today.

I believe it was, Keith Jones who made a comment the other night that the League and refs will never be able to legislate bad hits out of the game. There will be times when players will have to do it themselves.

The response has to be immediate not weeks or months later because it is convenient to the standings. Does anybody doubt that Talbot wouldn't have jumped in for any of the others.


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It wasn't even a dirty hit. He did not contact his head with the elbow. Why do you think Talbot stayed on the bench? If he got hit that hard in the head they are required to send him to a dark room right?
This. It seemed like an attempt at a penalty call more than anything. I hate seeing that kind of play. The guy is down but then gets up and skates to the bench on his own and starts chirpping right after there's no call.

It wasn't that bad and certainly not justifiable to react when leading by 1 with 5 minutes left in a game we have no business being in if it wasn't for our goalie. What? Our goalie steals a game for us? This isn't the Flyers board is it?

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It wasn't even a dirty hit. He did not contact his head with the elbow. Why do you think Talbot stayed on the bench? If he got hit that hard in the head they are required to send him to a dark room right?
He got hit right in the left cheek, but it was his shoulder that made contact. His elbow flew up after from simple inertia.

I didn't think it was an attempt to injure, he just stepped up on the pinch and Max stepped right into it.

Having Max on the ice for Coots' GWG was repayment enough.

Staios is not a dirty player anyway, he's a nice Hamilton boy.

I used to buy my papers at his dad's variety story when he was in Jr....

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there were only like 5 minutes left in the game and we were 1 goal up

nobody wanted to take a penalty at that point
This is my thinking as well.

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01-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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to the op, i was absolutely bothered by no response. Especially considering what max is to our team and more importantly in our locker room. I realize wasnt anyone ideal on the ice for us but would of been great to see couts go after him, i believe he was the closest.

I question our team toughness every game....

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The lack of response bothered me, yeah. I'm sure most of our guys seen the hit and did nothing. For those saying they didn't want to take a penalty in a close game; it's the lack of initial reaction and there was NONE. No one even skated over to Staios. If I see a teammate get blasted like that, I'm getting on that guy quick, game situation be damned. It would be my natural instinct and there was none from our boys last night.

This is the reaction I want to see...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...tml#more-22365

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The lack of response bothered me, yeah. I'm sure most of our guys seen the hit and did nothing. For those saying they didn't want to take a penalty in a close game; it's the lack of initial reaction and there was NONE. No one even skated over to Staios. If I see a teammate get blasted like that, I'm getting on that guy quick, game situation be damned. It would be my natural instinct and there was none from our boys last night.

This is the reaction I want to see...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...tml#more-22365
They would have looked like idiots going after someone that made a clean hit if they ended up taking a penalty and losing the game.

That was not the time for it.

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Rinaldo will deal with it next game
somebody should. at puck drop. just like Richards had to fight after the Booth hit ..

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They would have looked like idiots going after someone that made a clean hit if they ended up taking a penalty and losing the game.

That was not the time for it.
Was it a playoff game? Have playoff implications? Sometimes defense of a teammate and team unity means more than a point or two in January.

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Was it a playoff game? Have playoff implications? Sometimes defense of a teammate and team unity means more than a point or two in January.
Nope. Being morons is never the right thing. It was a clean hit, there is nothing to respond to.

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Was it a playoff game? Have playoff implications? Sometimes defense of a teammate and team unity means more than a point or two in January.
How soon you forget 09-10...

Every point matters, you can't just throw a game away with 5 minutes left because someone made a clean check on one of your players.

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No. 5 minutes left in a 1-goal game on the road is not the time for retaliation. I was happy they showed restraint. Face the Islanders plenty more times this year. They'll settle the score somewhere down the line.

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to the op, i was absolutely bothered by no response. Especially considering what max is to our team and more importantly in our locker room. I realize wasnt anyone ideal on the ice for us but would of been great to see couts go after him, i believe he was the closest.

I question our team toughness every game....
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The lack of response bothered me, yeah. I'm sure most of our guys seen the hit and did nothing. For those saying they didn't want to take a penalty in a close game; it's the lack of initial reaction and there was NONE. No one even skated over to Staios. If I see a teammate get blasted like that, I'm getting on that guy quick, game situation be damned. It would be my natural instinct and there was none from our boys last night.

This is the reaction I want to see...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...tml#more-22365
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Yes, It looked to me like Coburn at least was looking right at it. Staios skated at Talbots blind side and followed through with his elbow.

In contrast last night, Mike Richards took a 19 minute penalty for responding to a very similar "borderline" hit on Kopitar with five minutes to go in a one goal game. Gave Dallas a double minor powerplay. They scored on the second. Kings lost in a shootout. The Kings needed that extra point a whole lot more.

I think most times standing up for your teammates is more important than a point or two. Nobody in LA is upset at Richards. Nobody is questioning the King's response today.

I believe it was, Keith Jones who made a comment the other night that the League and refs will never be able to legislate bad hits out of the game. There will be times when players will have to do it themselves.

The response has to be immediate not weeks or months later because it is convenient to the standings. Does anybody doubt that Talbot wouldn't have jumped in for any of the others.
Can't believe some of you aren't bothered by the lack of response. The hit on Kopitar was a good example, if somebody on our team had done that I'd be fine with it. Sometimes points are NOT the most important thing. What if Hextall never responded to that hit on Propp and the Flyers were able to get that extra attacker on the ice for a elimination playoff game? The more important thing to do is stand up for your teammate. I was glad that somebody jumped on Cheilos' ass.

You don't let somebody on your team get hit like that. Say if that was Giroux, Couturier, or Schenn that got hit. This whole board would be up in arms if the Flyers didn't respond. Just cause its a 3rd/4th line grinder and the hit was borderline doesn't make it okay. You take the ****ing penalty to stand up for a teammate then you kill it off. That simple. Or at least have somebody go after Staios when there was under a minute left. But anyway...I'll be fine if somebody wastes Staios' ass next week.

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LOL @ Subban..

i didnt think i've ever seen a hockey player cower and get dragged around the ice like a doll before...

what a ***** !!!

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It's not really a surprise. The team looked like crap (except for Bob) last night so the apathy continued on the Talbot hit. Someone should have stepped up, and since they didn't I hope someone deals with him next time they play.

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