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01-13-2012, 01:13 AM
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You gotta have more balls than that man. You're in the A next year with a chance at the bigs. Come on, grab it.
Welcome to the Land of High Expectations, Patrick!

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So down to earth and takes the time to chat with people. Hard not to like the guy.

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All right: I'm out here in Tri-City, Washington (ex MTL, many years ago!) and I've been watching Holland play here for a bit over three years in the WHL. The team is #1 in the CHL right now.

He's developed into a leader, and is a speedy kid, able to carry the puck well out of his own end, and through the defenders. This year he has 17 goals and 40 assists. Makes accurate passes, and occasionally even mixes it up!

Sad to hear how badly the Canadiens are being managed right now, but you're getting an excellent prospect. Will he be good in the NHL? Who knows, but he has all the tools to be a solid player.

There's 2 other Tri-City players on the Montreal roster right now: one named Price, and one named G***z. I think Holly's attitudes match more with Price than the other!
Where did you hear such nonsense?

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Patrick Holland is number 9 in the WHL scoring, 2 spots up on Brenden Gallager

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So down to earth and takes the time to chat with people. Hard not to like the guy.
Seeing his responses on ****** and twitter makes me really want to root for the guy. He seems really genuine.

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01-13-2012, 01:28 AM
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It's not very likely that I ever make the NHL, but I'll do my best and if I ever do I'll be sure to redo this AMA.

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He's a very similar player to Michael Bournival - at least in the 3-4 games I've seen him play.

Good defensively, smart player, some offensive upside, and quick.

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01-13-2012, 03:35 AM
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It's not very likely that I ever make the NHL, but I'll do my best and if I ever do I'll be sure to redo this AMA.
It's official. Bust.

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I was hanging around a Rooskie web-board. Habs are all the rage in Chelyabinsk.

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Can you still drop back to r/hockey every once in a while after you get called up?

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It's not very likely that I ever make the NHL, but I'll do my best and if I ever do I'll be sure to redo this AMA.
Inspiring.

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Can you still drop back to r/hockey every once in a while after you get called up?

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It's not very likely that I ever make the NHL, but I'll do my best and if I ever do I'll be sure to redo this AMA.
Loser mentality....

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Loser mentality....
this proves Cammy right..

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Inspiring.
It's the truth, how many guys in the late rounds ever make the NHL and if they do ever have a huge impact? Sure there are the Datsyuk's of world but for everyone of him there are 28 other guys from the same round in the draft that never touch NHL ice.

I really hope this kid will be an exception and be useful to the habs one day but I am not holding my breath.

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It's the truth, how many guys in the late rounds ever make the NHL and if they do ever have a huge impact? Sure there are the Datsyuk's of world but for everyone of him there are 28 other guys from the same round in the draft that never touch NHL ice.

I really hope this kid will be an exception and be useful to the habs one day but I am not holding my breath.
by the sound of it neither is he.

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It's not very likely that I ever make the NHL, but I'll do my best and if I ever do I'll be sure to redo this AMA.
From what I remember of him and from what my colleagues told me of him, he is a good kid, smart kid and one who's living a dream. Hockey is plan A, but he's always been smart enough to have a plan B somewhere in his brain. I say he does play for the Habs someday, that's if he can sign a contract before the draft.

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01-13-2012, 10:44 AM
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"… Amateur scouts I talked to said Holland is by no means a can't-miss prospect. None suggested he's a potential top six NHL forward but many said he does have a legitimate chance to play in the NHL as a solid third- or fourth-liner..."

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=384950

Thus far, I like his progression.

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This kid will be a third line player in the NHL as per Bob McKenzie.

So, Holland might be a Maxime Lapierre type player with more skill to score goals and setup other players.

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This kid will be a third line player in the NHL as per Bob McKenzie.

So, Holland might be a Maxime Lapierre type player with more skill to score goals and setup other players.
Way to make stuff up.

He said he's talked to amateur scouts and the feeling is that he could become a solid third or fourth line player. McKenzie didn't have his own opinion.

However, from what I've seen, like I said before, he's very comparable to Michael Bournival.

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All the Swayze on twitter. This is a kid that is after my own heart. New favourite member of the Montreal Canadiens.

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Way to make stuff up.

He said he's talked to amateur scouts and the feeling is that he could become a solid third or fourth line player. McKenzie didn't have his own opinion.

However, from what I've seen, like I said before, he's very comparable to Michael Bournival.
So you noticed that too huh?

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I have scouted and written about Patrick Holland for HF before changing to write about the Habs prospects. Here's my take on Holland.

This young kid was a 7th round pick and has improved his game every year in junior. He has the speed, quick and smooth skating style while being very strong on his skates for his light weight but also has offensive skill to play with the better players and is very solid defensively. The two-way forward can play all the forward positions, is a playmaker with a quick release and can play the power play and excels on the penalty kill. He was a one of Tri-city's best penalty killers in his first three seasons and has continued to improve even more this season. Holland has slowly move up the line-up into the Top-six over the last two seasons. He has shown the most improvement in his total overall game for the Flames' prospects. Before Calgary drafted him, in his rookie WHL season, Holland was asked to play his off-wing(he's a right-hand shot) for the entire season and really impressed his coaches and the Flames' scouts as it is rare that a Junior coach will put a rookie in that spot.

Holland did attend the Summer camp for Team Canada Juniors and was not out of place one bit. He started slowly this season for Tri-city as he learned to shed the more intense checking that was put on him this year. He was flying under the radar the past few seasons as he was just not flashy and seemed to go unnoticed by other teams but seemed to always be on the score sheet somehow at the end of the game.

Holland played on the top line for the Flames with Sven Baertschi and Max Reinhart in the Young prospect tournament against the Oilers and Canucks. He was never out of place speed wise, covered defensively for them most of the time while setting them up for goals and burying most of his chances. This kid can do it all so he's not going to be a liability if he's not scoring and he's has an edge to his game, will drive the net hard and is not intimidated by anyone on the ice. He put on 15lbs over the past summer and continues to gain weight with muscle mass this season.

In my opinion, Patrick Holland should make the NHL and could be a Plekanec type player quite easily. He will be the sleeper in this trade even if Rammo decides to come back to the NHL which is quite doubtful. That's my two cents.

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I have scouted and written about Patrick Holland for HF before changing to write about the Habs prospects. Here's my take on Holland.

This young kid was a 7th round pick and has improved his game every year in junior. He has the speed, quick and smooth skating style while being very strong on his skates for his light weight but also has offensive skill to play with the better players and is very solid defensively. The two-way forward can play all the forward positions, is a playmaker with a quick release and can play the power play and excels on the penalty kill. He was a one of Tri-city's best penalty killers in his first three seasons and has continued to improve even more this season. Holland has slowly move up the line-up into the Top-six over the last two seasons. He has shown the most improvement in his total overall game for the Flames' prospects. Before Calgary drafted him, in his rookie WHL season, Holland was asked to play his off-wing(he's a right-hand shot) for the entire season and really impressed his coaches and the Flames' scouts as it is rare that a Junior coach will put a rookie in that spot.

Holland did attend the Summer camp for Team Canada Juniors and was not out of place one bit. He started slowly this season for Tri-city as he learned to shed the more intense checking that was put on him this year. He was flying under the radar the past few seasons as he was just not flashy and seemed to go unnoticed by other teams but seemed to always be on the score sheet somehow at the end of the game.

Holland played on the top line for the Flames with Sven Baertschi and Max Reinhart in the Young prospect tournament against the Oilers and Canucks. He was never out of place speed wise, covered defensively for them most of the time while setting them up for goals and burying most of his chances. This kid can do it all so he's not going to be a liability if he's not scoring and he's has an edge to his game, will drive the net hard and is not intimidated by anyone on the ice. He put on 15lbs over the past summer and continues to gain weight with muscle mass this season.

In my opinion, Patrick Holland should make the NHL and could be a Plekanec type player quite easily. He will be the sleeper in this trade even if Rammo decides to come back to the NHL which is quite doubtful. That's my two cents.
Sounds good.

I hope he's gonna have a bit more impact than Pyatt or Maxwell.

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I have scouted and written about Patrick Holland for HF before changing to write about the Habs prospects. Here's my take on Holland.

This young kid was a 7th round pick and has improved his game every year in junior. He has the speed, quick and smooth skating style while being very strong on his skates for his light weight but also has offensive skill to play with the better players and is very solid defensively. The two-way forward can play all the forward positions, is a playmaker with a quick release and can play the power play and excels on the penalty kill. He was a one of Tri-city's best penalty killers in his first three seasons and has continued to improve even more this season. Holland has slowly move up the line-up into the Top-six over the last two seasons. He has shown the most improvement in his total overall game for the Flames' prospects. Before Calgary drafted him, in his rookie WHL season, Holland was asked to play his off-wing(he's a right-hand shot) for the entire season and really impressed his coaches and the Flames' scouts as it is rare that a Junior coach will put a rookie in that spot.

Holland did attend the Summer camp for Team Canada Juniors and was not out of place one bit. He started slowly this season for Tri-city as he learned to shed the more intense checking that was put on him this year. He was flying under the radar the past few seasons as he was just not flashy and seemed to go unnoticed by other teams but seemed to always be on the score sheet somehow at the end of the game.

Holland played on the top line for the Flames with Sven Baertschi and Max Reinhart in the Young prospect tournament against the Oilers and Canucks. He was never out of place speed wise, covered defensively for them most of the time while setting them up for goals and burying most of his chances. This kid can do it all so he's not going to be a liability if he's not scoring and he's has an edge to his game, will drive the net hard and is not intimidated by anyone on the ice. He put on 15lbs over the past summer and continues to gain weight with muscle mass this season.

In my opinion, Patrick Holland should make the NHL and could be a Plekanec type player quite easily. He will be the sleeper in this trade even if Rammo decides to come back to the NHL which is quite doubtful. That's my two cents.
Wow thx for the amazing report!!! Lots of positives!!

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In my opinion, Patrick Holland should make the NHL and could be a Plekanec type player quite easily. He will be the sleeper in this trade even if Rammo decides to come back to the NHL which is quite doubtful. That's my two cents.
That may be laying it on a little thicke. ;-)

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