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01-14-2012, 02:39 PM
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Price sure hasn't stolen a game in a long long time. I am starting to believe Price is overrated

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On any given night, Price has makes several great saves but lets in some back breakers (NYE against Florida is fresh in my memory). Also as was the case in 2009/10, he is getting no puck luck whatsoever. Case in point, last game against Boston. Put him in with a strong team that can hold leads, that can make up for the occasional brain-fart, and throw in some lucky bounces and Price is Tim Thomas without the theatrics.

This applies to about 10 other NHL goalies too.

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01-14-2012, 02:40 PM
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if he said, or meant, below average in relation to what we expected from Price... then I might agree.

but if he said, or meant, below average in relation to the league-wide level of goaltending, he's completely out to lunch.

simply put, take any other goaltending tandem in the league, put them in montreal all year, and more than half of them would have been a clear downgrade to what we get from Price (and the odd Budaj game).


Habs went into the season needing Price to be at his absolute best consistently to do well, or in other words we needed Vezina/Hart level goaltending, and he hasn't quite given us that, but he's easily been our best player on several nights, and overall, he's played well enough for us to win... unfortunately the group in front of him hasn't.

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01-14-2012, 02:45 PM
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After shaking and cursing out a 10 y.o. child he shouldn't be allowed to be on TV. I'm amazed he wasn't fired and still has a spot on TV.

Over and above that, not only does he have no hockey know how he has no common sense either. Waste of space. He should go back to being what he's better at, a GM

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01-14-2012, 02:46 PM
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Habs Goaltending

Carey is the reason that the Habs probably won't be in the "Fail for Nail" competition, maybe we can sit him a bit more so we increase our chances of finishing in 28th or so

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01-14-2012, 02:47 PM
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I think Carbonneau said it best: "Without Carey Price, this team would be 35th"

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01-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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Carey is the reason that the Habs probably won't be in the "Fail for Nail" competition, maybe we can sit him a bit more so we increase our chances of finishing in 28th or so
Even without taking tanking into consideration they should play him a lot less. No reason to exhaust him in a wasted season.

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01-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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Bottom line:

He is not the only good goalie in the league... meaning he is replaceable.

Not that I want him gone
i can only see a few goalie i would take in return of price...taking in consideration most goalie hit their prime around 27.

fleury
rinne
lunqvist
quick (borderline)

the rest are either pass 30 or not of is lvl.

now imagine price when hes 27. could easely be the best goalie in the league at the moment.

price is intouchable....and unless you get 1 of they above, you cant replace him.

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01-14-2012, 02:50 PM
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Price could be better but I think he's tired plus the team in front hasn't helped him. That being said, he plays waaaaaay too much. I don't like the way they've used him this year - you gotta give a goalie a game off here and there.

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01-14-2012, 02:51 PM
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Price has been below average on many nights, the same amount of games the rest of the team failed to show up. His glove hand has been a problem. That being said, he is the only reason we have the wins we do.

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01-14-2012, 02:51 PM
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Price hasn't been the problem but I do agree he has been average at best. Every team in a playoff position righ now has a goalie thats stoled at least 3 games, just look at how many hot goalies we run into that steal the game. Price hasn't stoled one game so far this season...last year in the playoffs Thomas stole two games for the Bruins against us and they win the series and eventually the cup.

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01-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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I think Carbonneau said it best: "Without Carey Price, this team would be 35th"
While I think Price is a solid goaltender people saying stuff like that need to realize that you should be comparing him to an average starter in the NHL who would be a pretty good goaltender in his own right. The effect of the goaltending position gets massively over-rated in Montreal. Every decent goaltender in the NHL can bail out his team now and again.

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01-14-2012, 02:53 PM
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Watch Prices positioning, it's like it was two years ago when he had the bad season.

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For abig man, Price sure looks small in net.

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01-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Price has kept us in many a game. Unless he was supernatural there's not much more he could have done. Could he be better, yes. But when you're done 3-0 in the 3rd period and another goes in, big ****ing deal. For the most part, Habs losses are not Price's fault but rather the teams loss of a system and structure.

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Some nights, Price has been very solid. Some other nights, he's not played up to the level we all know he's able to play.

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01-14-2012, 03:00 PM
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For abig man, Price sure looks small in net.
I don't agree with that at all.

I do agree with the positioning though. He tends to over commit at times. I would also like him to use his athleticism more than simply squaring up and looking big.

But I am no goalie expert.

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01-14-2012, 03:03 PM
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I don't agree with that at all.

I do agree with the positioning though. He tends to over commit at times. I would also like him to use his athleticism more than simply squaring up and looking big.

But I am no goalie expert.
I evaluate his game differently this season:

Positioning: A+ (elite level)
Movement: A+ (elite level)
Puck tracking: B

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01-14-2012, 03:05 PM
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price has 7 losts where he allowed 2 goal or less...price could easely be at 21-22 wins this season if he had an above average offence infront of him.

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01-14-2012, 03:07 PM
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Damnit Price, why don't you shutout the other team every night so we can win 1-0 or 2-0.

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01-14-2012, 03:10 PM
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Some nights, Price has been very solid. Some other nights, he's not played up to the level we all know he's able to play.
He's had bad games. Every goalie does. Habs fans hold Price up to an insane standard - according to some Price is the only guy on the team who deserves any credit and we'd be the worst team in the history of the NHL without him, to others every time Price could hypothetically save a goal he concedes he's single-handedly costing us games. I know having a terrible offense makes the goalie stand out more, but you can only do that so much.

I don't get why the man can't be judged like a normal goalie. Look at Pekka Rinne; one of the few guys right now I will say is probably better than Price (for now), on a team just as reliant on their goaltending as we are, has been up and down two this season. It happens.

Unless you are Tim Thomas.

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How is this guy still on the air? Didn't he hit a kid? The habs goaltending has not be below average, Price has been real solid perhaps not quite as good as some points in the past but he has not been the problem

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Price has been below average on many nights, the same amount of games the rest of the team failed to show up. His glove hand has been a problem. That being said, he is the only reason we have the wins we do.
Glove hand? I really can't remember any series of goals that were caused by his weak glove hand. He's been weak at the 5-hole recently more so than anything.

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01-14-2012, 03:12 PM
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You've done it Mike, don't say the truth, we get upset about that. Everything's been great, that's why were approaching the lottery

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01-14-2012, 03:17 PM
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You've done it Mike, don't say the truth, we get upset about that. Everything's been great, that's why were approaching the lottery
I don't think anyone is particularily upset. I thinkeveryone is trying to explain that saying he is below average is an exaggeration.

.913SV% and 2.45GAA is not below average, it's pretty much average.

Taking a look at Price's split stats

October .900SV% 2.59GAA
November .929SV% 1.97GAA
December .908SV% 2.89GAA
January(so far) .915SV% 2.26 GAA

All in all, it's not really been a below average season. There have been points where he probably has been(not always attributed to him, somtimes to him), but to say that the whole season has been below average is not accurate.

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