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01-14-2012, 08:03 PM
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It's been suggested that he has an over inflated ego and high opinion of himself. You could consider it a cocky swagger and confidence of a goal scorer. He'll bounce back to his goal scoring ways.

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01-14-2012, 08:31 PM
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Most of the information I have is second hand, but the short answer is: yes, he was selfish.

While he was still in college, he threatened the Kings management to make use of a loophole that would allow him to re-enter the draft if the Kings didn't sign him right away. I believe it was the same tactic that Mike Comrie used. Management at the time caved in and signed him, because they didn't want to lose him.

When it was time for arbitration, he had a HUGE difference in opinion of what he was worth and what Lombardi (and the arbitrator) felt he was worth. Cammallerri thought he was worth $6 million, and Lombardi and co. thought he was worth ~$3 million. The arbitrator awarded him $3.5 million. From that point on, it was clear to everyone that it would be Cammalleri's last contract with the Kings.

On another note, I've heard from several fans who had negative experiences either interacting with him or just watching how he behaved at Kings charity events.

As a player, I did like him to the extent that I felt he was a good supplemental player on an offensive team. However, if you were looking for him to lead the charge, you were in for disappointment.

And they were **** comments to the Montreal media, in my opinion. There's a difference between saying "we're not preparing well enough and we're getting outworked" and saying "we're preparing like losers and we're playing like losers." How do you face the team when you label them that, in ANY interview? In my opinion, he just wanted out because he couldn't handle being the one depended upon, and in Calgary, he has Iginla to face the leadership role if things go poorly.
My GF at the time met him right before we played at Staples after a King game and he was nice and took a picture with her. She was an attractive female though so I guess you can discount it. I don't get all the anger towards the guy, he wanted to get paid, he wanted to play in a market that had more than 1 beat writer following the team and he DID NOT fit into Terry Murray's system. That's how free agency is supposed to work.

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01-14-2012, 08:47 PM
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Ok. I have to step in and correct this, because it's been said many times on this board and on LGK back in the day. And it's simply false.

Mike Cammalleri wanted to return to Michigan for his senior season, and that was the plan all along. There was never any intention to play an OA year for St. Mike's. It was Taylor and the Kings who initiated the contact with MC and used the incentive of a spot on the first line with Allison to get him to sign an NHL contract. The same thing was done by Montreal to get Komisarek to leave that same summer. Both Cammalleri and Komisarek then spent the seasons in the AHL. That is what angered Red so much because they were both sold a bill of goods and ended up riding the bus in the AHL instead of coming back to what would have been the most loaded team in college hockey by a large margin.
I apologize for the misinformation then. I never saw that part, and could only remember the accusation that he used the loophole.

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My GF at the time met him right before we played at Staples after a King game and he was nice and took a picture with her. She was an attractive female though so I guess you can discount it. I don't get all the anger towards the guy, he wanted to get paid, he wanted to play in a market that had more than 1 beat writer following the team and he DID NOT fit into Terry Murray's system. That's how free agency is supposed to work.
And he very well may be. I haven't dealt with him myself, but people whom I trust well enough had negative experiences with him off the ice.

As for your second point, if he's unhappy in LA, by all means, I'd rather him go elsewhere and be happy than stay here and be unhappy. LA's not for all.

However, I think most people ARE displeased with him trying to get $6 million in arbitration after one decent season, when he rarely played defensively and he wasn't really the catalyst for offense either. He was a finisher, but he didn't make the players around him better. At the time, he was basically asking to be one of the top paid players in the league (neither Ovechkin nor Crosby were off their entry level contracts, if I recall correctly).

He just wasn't worth it, and him saying his team is playing like "losers" is one of the biggest **** moves I can imagine a player doing.

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01-14-2012, 11:55 PM
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However, I think most people ARE displeased with him trying to get $6 million in arbitration

All these years later and still no one seems to understand how arbitration works around here and this is the main reason why so many people dislike him

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01-15-2012, 01:21 AM
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I believe his last season in LA he started to become a selfish player. He started that season with ten goals in the first month and then trailed off from there. He did get injured midway through the season but when he came back he seemed to try to be better than Kopitar and Brown. Instead of making the right play I thought he started to make the play that wasn't the best for the team but what was best for himself.

Just my opinion it.
He broke his ribs coming to the aid of his teammate fighting a guy 6 inches taller. He was injured man and still tried to play through it. Everyone loved him and so dide DL (called him a future Kings captain) until DL got wind of his price tag. DL then went public with the negotiation in typical fashion and hypocriticaly painted him a completely different player than what he said of him 4 months earlier. All in attempt in order to gain the favor of the fans in ditching him.

With that said, Cammy didn't really fit and he has since been overpaid. Works in the end, I just didn't like the way things worked out. DL is a good GM but his mouth rubs a lot of fans and NHL people the wrong way.

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01-15-2012, 01:33 AM
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Always liked Cammy, hated seeing him go, a real character person in the locker room.

On a related topic, I feel for you Habs fan. Montreal is a disaster right now, not sure how much poison has leaked into the locker room, but the inside word is everyone wants out.

I live about as far away from Montreal as anyone, but I really don't understand all the ******** about French speaking vs. English speaking. Hell, I am constantly learning Spanish here because I like to communicate with all kinds of people who live in southern California. I am not sure why anyone would not want to learn a second language just to be able to converse with your neighbors.

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01-15-2012, 02:37 AM
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You will probably get responses on both sides of the spectrum. I wouldn't say he was absolutely in one category or the other, but he certainly drifted between them on the Kings a little bit. Both on and off the ice. I would love to have Cammy back on the team, but not at that price tag he demanded. That season with Calgary did wonders for him, but at the end of the day, he is just not a $6+ million player. He has a ceiling of those numbers, but more often than not you are going to get 20 goals and 50 points. That is just not an acceptable return. Let's see how he does now that he is back in the town where he had most success...

In LA, he was loved mostly. Up until that contract dispute, the fans were happy with him. Though he was starting to develop an injury streak and his numbers had taken a dip, we were still happy to have him on the team and every single one of us wanted to keep him and see him re-sign. Just not at $6 million, which was rumored to have been what he was demanding at the time. The players had no complaints with him, he didn't seem the leader type to me, but there were no problems in the locker room that spilled out to the media. In the end, it was just the money that sent him out of LA. He has always been a one dimensional sniper with a bit of fragility. If he had waited out and proved himself in Dean's eyes, he would probably still be here and making ~$5 million. He just wanted the payday, and if he couldn't get it, then he wanted to play for a Canadian market. He got both.

Personally I always hated his one knee one timer But that is about it.

I think he still owns his pad here:


That huhwse is fantastic. I'd love to hang uhwt there.

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He broke his ribs coming to the aid of his teammate fighting a guy 6 inches taller. He was injured man and still tried to play through it. Everyone loved him and so dide DL (called him a future Kings captain) until DL got wind of his price tag. DL then went public with the negotiation in typical fashion and hypocriticaly painted him a completely different player than what he said of him 4 months earlier. All in attempt in order to gain the favor of the fans in ditching him.

With that said, Cammy didn't really fit and he has since been overpaid. Works in the end, I just didn't like the way things worked out. DL is a good GM but his mouth rubs a lot of fans and NHL people the wrong way.
None of this pertains to my point. When it came late into the season he tries to be better than Anze and Dustin. His play when it came to offense was all about cammalleri. He tried to out shine them and he couldn't. This had nothing to do with off ice negotiations.

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Ya duuwnt knuuuww what he is tuuuwlkin aboot now duw ya?

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