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01-15-2012, 02:18 PM
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Am I the only one who really doesn't want Rick Nash? Especially at the cost it would take to get him? I won't use the word overrated because I acknowledge his two-way play but 7.8 mil is a lot for a guy who's never scored more than 80 points. And I know there's more to hockey than just points but still....7.8 mil....

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01-15-2012, 02:20 PM
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Am I the only one who really doesn't want Rick Nash? Especially at the cost it would take to get him? I won't use the word overrated because I acknowledge his two-way play but 7.8 mil is a lot for a guy who's never scored more than 80 points. And I know there's more to hockey than just points but still....7.8 mil....
I'd take him. He needs a fresh start somewhere else. I think if he moved he would be rejuvenated on a new team. If we got nash istead of say ryan I'm good with that also.

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Eklund is a member here, and regardless of what you think, he is a legitimate source on HF. Any and all flaming will be treated equally. If you don't like it...don't open the thread.

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01-15-2012, 02:22 PM
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Am I the only one who really doesn't want Rick Nash? Especially at the cost it would take to get him? I won't use the word overrated because I acknowledge his two-way play but 7.8 mil is a lot for a guy who's never scored more than 80 points. And I know there's more to hockey than just points but still....7.8 mil....
Komisarek + Armstrong = Nash's salary.

Not saying he isn't overpaid, just some perspective.

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Schenn for Getzlaf.. I call it.

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I invite you to check out Ian White's numbers.....

Still not enough?

Then check out his salary........

Thanks for coming out.



Are you really going to counter with Ian White, who has been on three teams since the trade?


Not even relevant to the trade with the Flames.


IIRC Babchuk has all but played his way off the team, and that is who they got for king awesome journeyman White.

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01-15-2012, 02:23 PM
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Flames 1 ducks 0 They look great
For a team that is use to giving up 4-5 goals, yes, yes they do.

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01-15-2012, 02:24 PM
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Ok we'll keep them, it's ok

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Ok we'll keep them, it's ok
Fresh start needed.

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Komisarek + Armstrong = Nash's salary.

Not saying he isn't overpaid, just some perspective.
Yeah I get that but I just mean in terms of 1. what pieces it would cost to trade for him and 2. 7.8 mil until 2018, I'm not sure Rick Nash is worth it.

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Nah it's ok. We'll take our chances

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Maybe you would but murray isn't going to.

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What does gauthier have to do with leaf rumors. I was going to have pizza for lunch but i'm not sure.i want to check the weather in china first. Makes sense right.
It has nothing to do with the actual rumor but you seem to be basing the truth of the rumors on what Burke said on a talk show .
I just used P.G as a comparasion. When P.G made a claim it was disputed that he was making it up by most. Why can't we assume the same about Burke.
I was going to eat at this resturant but one guy claims the food is bad while the guy standing next to him claims it good.Which to believe?

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It has nothing to do with the actual rumor but you seem to be basing the truth of the rumors on what Burke said on a talk show .
I just used P.G as a comparasion. When P.G made a claim it was disputed that he was making it up by most. Why can't we assume the same about Burke.
I was going to eat at this resturant but one guy claims the food is bad while the guy standing next to him claims it good.Which to believe?
always believe burke.

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always believe burke.
Fair enough. we see in about a month if he speaks the truth.

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Fair enough. we see in about a month if he speaks the truth.
Don't think we will even have to wait that long. He's known for pulling off trades at this time of the year. When I hear rumors of a announcement in the next 48 hours it makes sense because of the way he operates his teams.

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Don't think we will even have to wait that long. He's known for pulling off trades at this time of the year. When I hear rumors of a announcement in the next 48 hours it makes sense because of the way he operates his teams.
That could also explain why all these twitter "sources" are writing these rumours.

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I invite you to check out Ian White's numbers.....

Still not enough?

Then check out his salary........

Thanks for coming out.

well how long did ian white last in calgary?

is he still in Calgary?

Is he putting up good numbers in Calgary?

Thanks for coming out.


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Don't think we will even have to wait that long. He's known for pulling off trades at this time of the year. When I hear rumors of a announcement in the next 48 hours it makes sense because of the way he operates his teams.
Again fair enough,but remember this whole thread has been about acquiring a top player,mainly Getzlaf,Ryan... not trading a bottom line-2nd liner like MacArthur.

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and it was an overpayment
Seriously?...

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Are you really going to counter with Ian White, who has been on three teams since the trade?


Not even relevant to the trade with the Flames.


IIRC Babchuk has all but played his way off the team, and that is who they got for king awesome journeyman White.
You're completely ignoring my initial point which was that he has been and currently is producing at a near-comparable rate to Phaneuf for less than half of his salary. You're living in a pre-cap dream if you think White doesn't deliver the same value as Phaneuf.

His latest contract is probably his most valuable one since entering the league as he is now an established premier offensive defenceman. His cost benefit probably exceeds Dion's.

That's not worthless, despite what you think of Stajan, Mayers, and Hagman. In fact, he was the clearcut centrepiece of the initial deal.

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I think we would have to take salary back anyways. I don't mind this for the Av's I wonder what other Av fans think of this.
So...sitting in 9th with Duchene still hurt...the Avs would abandon any hope for the playoffs this year?? Doubtful the Avs would be willing to go with an O'Reilly, Galiardi and McClement combo at center for any stretch.

As far as the deal itself, I don't see the Avs making a deal with the Leafs with Stastny unless Luke Schenn is included.

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The Nashville deal, You got stuck with Lombardi at 3.5m for 2 years.
Who cares? We weren't going after alot of free agents so it's worth it to get a young guy like Franson.

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Again fair enough,but remember this whole thread has been about acquiring a top player,mainly Getzlaf,Ryan... not trading a bottom line-2nd liner like MacArthur.
Don't get me wrong macarthur is a 2nd liner but it goes to show that a g.m. would value this player in a package deal and we don't know what players g.m.'s value. On HF Boards macarthur goes for a 2nd round pick. In the nhl world he goes for more.

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