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01-15-2012, 03:11 PM
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Name a time when a player was almost a goat, but was bailed out by the team

When we think of goats in hockey a lot of names come to mind from particular plays. Steve Smith, Tommy Salo, even Tony Esposito allowing that long shot in Game 7 in 1971. But what about the times when a team bailed out one of their players from a poor decision? Whether they won the next game, or won in overtime or still found a way to win despite a terrible play. For example, Patrick Roy's "Statue of Liberty" save would have barely been remembered if Detroit didn't score on that play, win the game, and then win in Game 7. Or to put it in even greater terms, if the Red Sox won in Game 7 in 1986 or the Cubs in 2003, no one would have remembered the error by Buckner, or Steve Bartman respectively.

But we'll stick to hockey. Name a time when a potential series ending play was redeemed by that player's own team later.

1991 Mark Messier - Hard to believe we would put the Moose on here but in Game 6 against Calgary the Oilers just need to win in overtime to move on. Messier makes a brutal pass across centre ice the Fleury intercepts and rushes in on a breakaway. He slides the puck through Grant Fuhr. However, the Flames choked the next game relinquishing a 3-0 lead in the game to lose 5-4 in overtime thanks to Tikkannen. If not for those heroics, everyone would remember the Messier giveaway.

2006 Cory Stillman - In overtime in the Cup final in Game 5 made a very soft and slow pass across the ice in his own zone to Eric Staal who desperately tried to reach for the puck and chip it away from Pisani who scored the SHORTHANDED overtime winner. Stillman I am sure had a few sleepless nights because the Canes didn't win until Game 7. But if the Oilers win that series, that play is forever etched in our minds.

2004 Alexei Kovalev - To be honest we still all remember this one, and Kovalev still gets criticized for it. Game #4 vs. Boston the Habs are in overtime and Kovalev gets a slash on his arm. Sure, maybe it hurt, but you can't wait for a whistle and you have to keep the play going. Instead Kovalev bumps into his own teammate (Souray) the puck comes loose and Glen Murray takes it in on a breakaway and scores. That could have been it for the Habs, but thanks in no small part to Jose Theodore they come back from a 3-1 series lead and beat Boston.

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This is the first thing I think of when "almost a goat" comes to mind



Not really what you're asking for though, as Brodeur outplayed Giguere for the rest of the series and is a big reason his team won, so it was as much him bailing himself out as his team bailing him out.

But considering the Devils had a 2-0 lead in games and Game 3 ending in a Ducks win in OT.... It's quite likely that without that goal, the Devils go up 3-0 and win the series in 5 games, rather than 7.

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01-15-2012, 04:32 PM
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Speaking of the 2002 Red Wings/Colorado, the first thing that came to mind was not a player being bailed out, but a ref: Forsberg's OT goal in game 5 was offside. That might be up there for one of the worst blown calls if not for what happened in those final two games.

The other thing that comes to mind is this, which imo is pretty much the pinnacle of what the OP is asking for:

This was the 1999 Euroleague final. Metallurg won in OT.

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Another Hurricanes 2006:

Doug Weight - In a tight fought game 6 against Buffalo, in a series that was and still is arguably the best I've ever seen since the lockout, Doug Weight takes a completely unnecessary boarding penalty for his hit on Jason Pominville about 2:30 into the extra frame. Buffalo goes on to score on the ensuing powerplay, forcing a game 7. The Canes would respond with a 4-2 win, though Weight did his share to bail himself out as well, with an assist on the Canes first goal and scoring the game tying goal early in the 3rd before Brind'Amour would eventually score the winner.

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Tim Thomas helped bail himself out in last year's final. The OT goal in game two was one of the most embarrassing of all time. If the Bruins didn't win the series, that would have been the key reason.

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Not quite what you're looking for, but "almost a goat" makes me think of Mike Vernon coming out of his net too soon to celebrate a series win over Chicago in '95. A 150-foot shot got by him cleanly and rang off the post as time expired.

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Not quite what you're looking for, but "almost a goat" makes me think of Mike Vernon coming out of his net too soon to celebrate a series win over Chicago in '95. A 150-foot shot got by him cleanly and rang off the post as time expired.
That one was hilarious.

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That Kovalev one is also hilarious.

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Iginla 2004, Game 7 against Vancouver.
Fan throws jacket on the ice, distracts him as he shoots at the open net and misses. Naslund takes the puck up the ice, and with seconds left backhands the puck at the net as Cooke crashes it and scores.
Gelinas won it in OT and no one but Vancouver fans remember it.

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It's remembered like he is, but Patrick Stefan in Dallas against Edmonton

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Not quite what you're looking for, but "almost a goat" makes me think of Mike Vernon coming out of his net too soon to celebrate a series win over Chicago in '95. A 150-foot shot got by him cleanly and rang off the post as time expired.
That series ended with a Slava Kozlov OT winner. The Vernon near-disaster was actually at the end of Game 2. (Great choice, though. I remember my total sense of disbelief when it happened.)

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1987: Grant Fuhr gave up three goals early in the first period in the deciding game of the Canada Cup against the Soviets. It didn't matter after Gretzky and Lemieux led the Canadians back to victory, but had it not been for them it's possible Fuhr would've got blamed for the loss (similar to Cheevers and Liut).

1986: Not a specific player, but in the last minute of Calgary's 3-2 Game 7 upset win over Edmonton (the Steve Smith game) the Flames took a too many men on the ice penalty. Edmonton was unable to score the equalizer on the power-play, but if they had then one wonders if Bob Johnson would've been criticized as much as Don Cherry was in the same situation.

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Chris Osgood when he was on the Islanders in Game 4 of the opening round of the '02 Playoffs. he let in a terrible wrap-around goal late that let Toronto tie the game, and this was just after the Isles scored 2 quick goals to take a 3-2 lead.
if Toronto wins that game Isles go back to TO down 3-1.
Enter Shawn Bates. Penalty Shot Isles win, and although they lost the series in 7 they fought the whole series and lost a few key players to injury along the way.

to be fair to osgood though they probably wouldn't have made the playoffs with Garth Snow as the starter

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Roberto Luongo. Winter 2010 Olympics. He won the starters job when Brodeur faltered early & was very average throughout the medal games. Had it not been for the defence & firepower in front of him...

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Not really what you're asking for though, as Brodeur outplayed Giguere for the rest of the series and is a big reason his team won, so it was as much him bailing himself out as his team bailing him out.
Bailing yourself out counts too, just for future reference.

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Iginla 2004, Game 7 against Vancouver.
Fan throws jacket on the ice, distracts him as he shoots at the open net and misses. Naslund takes the puck up the ice, and with seconds left backhands the puck at the net as Cooke crashes it and scores.
Gelinas won it in OT and no one but Vancouver fans remember it.
Oh, I remember it. I was watching it live. I remember thinking there would be a whistle blown because of it. Then Iggy loses his stick doesn't he? Then the end to end rush shorthanded and the Nucks tie it. Iggy assisted on the OT winner.

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1987: Grant Fuhr gave up three goals early in the first period in the deciding game of the Canada Cup against the Soviets. It didn't matter after Gretzky and Lemieux led the Canadians back to victory, but had it not been for them it's possible Fuhr would've got blamed for the loss (similar to Cheevers and Liut).
You never know, he might have. Fuhr came back strong after that though. Looking at all three games being 6-5 makes you think the goaltending was poor, but these were just tremendously offensive games. And I am sure that no one remembers this, but Gretzky of all people coughed the puck up on the opening Soviet goal 30 seconds in. It wasn't Mario and Wayne that brought the Canadians back to life, it was the grinders. Tocchet, Propp, Sutter, etc. Even Hawerchuk was integral. Mario and Wayne just finished it.

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Marian Hossa, Game 5, 2010 West Quarters: If Chicago doesn't score shorthanded to tie the game or kill the penalty and Nashville goes up 3-2, what if they lose the series? Would have been yet another playoff nightmare for Hoss.

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Isles in 07. Devils score with 1 second left in game 82 to tie the game. Wade Dubielewicz wins the eventual shoot-out and the Isles advanced to the playoff under unlikely circumstances.

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Game 7 vs Sabres, 2006, Cam Ward allows a goal from a bank shot from behind the goal line in the dying seconds of the second period to make it 2-1 Buffalo. His team scores 3 times in the third period to bail him out, and then Ward eventually ends up with the Conn Smythe.

Patrick Roy, blew a 2-1 lead in Game 4 (which would have given the Avs a 3-1 series lead) with an untimely giveaway, but recovered by giving up just one goal in Games 6 and 7, and would win the Conn Smythe.

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Martin Gerber played like crap the 1st two games at home of the first round against the Habs in 2006, putting the canes down 2 games to none going back to Montreal. They switched to Ward in game 3 and went on to win the series and the Stanley Cup.


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Dryden in game 7 of the 79 conference finals. He let in a couple of bad goals, one of which made the score 4-3 Boston late in the 3rd. He then made some great saves in OT. Had the Habs lost that game, he would have definitely been the goat.

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Dryden was "challenged" throughout most of the regular seasons during the Habs' domination of the league to stay sharp, focused & in the game/zone. Certainly during the Summit Series in 72 not only was he the "goat" but so too were most of the out of shape & completely befuddled players in front of him.

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