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01-16-2012, 12:26 AM
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I could say Couturier looks like Jeff Carter (before putting on weight given his size) to me, but I know where that send this thread.

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01-16-2012, 12:40 AM
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I could say Couturier looks like Jeff Carter (before putting on weight given his size) to me, but I know where that send this thread.
Do these shots look high and or wide to you?





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01-16-2012, 12:54 AM
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I love the 'high-and-wide' argument because I can come back say that Jeff Carter led the team in shots on goal 4 years in a row, and just put that part of the argument away quickly.

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01-16-2012, 01:00 AM
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I love the 'high-and-wide' argument because I can come back say that Jeff Carter led the team in shots on goal 4 years in a row, and just put that part of the argument away quickly.
There's also the fact that his shot accuracy was perfectly normal.

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01-16-2012, 01:03 AM
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Honestly, Couts probably has the best roof shot we have in wrist shots on the team. But would love to see more to see if I'm right or wrong.

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01-16-2012, 07:25 AM
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Maybe we can say Jeff Carter if he knew how to use his body to shield the puck better and had a more accurate shot?

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01-16-2012, 07:32 AM
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I think the Jordan Staal comparison is a good one. Liked everything I've seen from the kid aside from the fact that he plays for the Flyers. Exceptional D for a rookie, very good on the PK, good shot, good hockey sense, not the best wheels but not slow; definitely sounds like Staal to me.

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01-16-2012, 07:57 AM
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I have been very impressed with Couturier's play over the last few games...kid has some amazing talent and should become a top 20 player eventually. But NO...he will not be the next Stamkos. Stamkos is still very young and to start saying anybody will be "the next Stamkos" is just silly right now.

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01-16-2012, 08:06 AM
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I am all for wishful thinking.

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01-16-2012, 08:19 AM
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I could say Couturier looks like Jeff Carter (before putting on weight given his size) to me, but I know where that send this thread.
He doesn't have Carter's release, or, more importantly, skating ability. He's also a much better all-around player than Carter was early in his career (and he's two years younger than when Carter broke in).

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01-16-2012, 08:22 AM
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Bog fan of Couts and can't believe we got him at 8th, but Stamkos he is not...

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01-16-2012, 08:56 AM
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the next Stamkos? cant we just enjoy the kids overall play without making threads comparing him to other players. He obviously looks like hes going to be a great player for the Flyers. Hopefully people wont overreact when he hits the wall. and he will
I agree with this... but says a bigger Mikko Koivu with a better shot...

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01-16-2012, 09:35 AM
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01-16-2012, 10:58 AM
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While I think that many on here aren't giving Couturier enough credit for his offensive ability, calling him the next Stamkos is a bit outrageous.

The reason Couturier stuck this year is his defensive game, not his offensive game, HOWEVER, there is a reason he put up back to back 96 point seasons in the QMJHL, his last year having been 96 points in only 58 games.

The kid can score, and having 9 goals at the midway point as a 4th line center is not too shabby. Put him with capable line-mates and I can see him hitting 20 by seasons end.

He will be much better then Mike Fisher. I would argue that he as a ceiling can match Eric Staal's output, while matching Jordan Staals defensive ability, if not bettering Staal defensively.

The kid isnt really a mix, he is already one of the best defensively, and has the offensive ability and instinct to be great there as well, without sacrificing one for the other IMO.

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01-16-2012, 10:58 AM
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sorry but no. Sean doesn't skate well enough to be in that class. He's also more of a setup man than a goal scorer like Stamkos. Also, Sean will NEVER get top line center duties like stamkos gets because Sean plays behind Giroux. If you think that Couturier is the next Stamkos then you must believe he's better or going to be better than Giroux.

However, that said I can see Sean possibly becoming the next Kesler. He COULD become a real scoring threat and still be one of the best two way players in the league.

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01-16-2012, 11:06 AM
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Isn't nuclear the guy who comes on randomly every week or so and complains about HFboards (ie maybe this is a troll thread).

We dont have a Couturier thread though, so I guess thats fine. As I stated before, Couturier has slowly went up the list of my favorite players on the team. Love his defensive game along with his offensive. His biggest problem, as we all can see, is probably his skating. He isn't Stamkos, at all, but he is going to be a solid #2 center for us in the future (or #3, doesnt really matter on the Flyers). I can see him hitting 80-85 or so points in his prime, but most likely a constant 50-70 point player when he gets older.

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01-16-2012, 11:07 AM
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sorry but no. Sean doesn't skate well enough to be in that class. He's also more of a setup man than a goal scorer like Stamkos. Also, Sean will NEVER get top line center duties like stamkos gets because Sean plays behind Giroux. If you think that Couturier is the next Stamkos then you must believe he's better or going to be better than Giroux.

However, that said I can see Sean possibly becoming the next Kesler. He COULD become a real scoring threat and still be one of the best two way players in the league.
If Couturier and Schenn reach their respective potentials, there's going to be a compelling case to move Giroux back to wing if e doesn't improve defensively. It isn't an accident that hes getting a lot of goals scored on him.

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01-16-2012, 11:10 AM
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If Couturier and Schenn reach their respective potentials, there's going to be a compelling case to move Giroux back to wing if e doesn't improve defensively. It isn't an accident that hes getting a lot of goals scored on him.
You're right. He's been as irresponsible in the defensive zone as Briere is.


BTW, I'm glad to see you're back Jester.

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01-16-2012, 11:48 AM
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It's funny that just because Couturier is good in his own end, people don't realise just how good the guy is in the other end. He shields the puck like Jagr along the boards, It's scary. He looks very much like a young Joe Thornton in the offensive end.

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01-16-2012, 11:57 AM
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Do these shots look high and or wide to you?

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01-16-2012, 12:12 PM
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Over the past few games everything he threw at the net either went in or left a huge rebound for someone else.

I just want to see how long he can ride this wave.

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01-16-2012, 02:06 PM
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I could say Couturier looks like Jeff Carter (before putting on weight given his size) to me, but I know where that send this thread.
Carters faster but lacks Cout's on ice vision and passing, kid is showing some awesome hockey IQ for a 19 yr old.....just watch this talent mature

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I think the best comparison in here is J. Staal but i think that is quite off in its own right aswell. Tough to predict his numbers from here but he will fill the big shoes of a 2 way role. His upside is easiest put as being our next Selke nominee.

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01-16-2012, 04:03 PM
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The Jordan Staal/Eric Staal hybrid comparisons are apt. Couturier is a total stud.

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To me he looks like a poor man's version of Jean Beliveau. We could be so lucky!

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