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01-16-2012, 04:29 PM
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Anderson With Only 1 Shutout

Is this concerning to anyone? I realize that he has picked up his play lately but I believe there is a correlation between shutouts and playoff success. Whether this applies to Anderson or the defence in front of him, I believe it is still concern.



As you can see on the graph, when teams are shutout often, they fail to make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs. While this is because of offensive discrepancies, you can connect it with defence too. If Ottawa shuts out teams, it will reduce their chances of making it far in the playoffs.
We still have not been shutout though, so that is a very promising stat.

It seems goaltenders with a lot of shutouts make it to the finals or win the cup.
Last year, Thomas had 9 shutouts while Luongo had 4
The year before, Fleury had 4 shutouts.
When Emery took us to the finals, he had 5.

I think and hope our stats will improve as we were not good early on and Anderson has improved along with the defence has improved a lot.

I am just bringing this up as I feel a strong team and goaltender must be able to completely shut down teams to be able to be a real strong contender.

"Shut-Outs" to Craig Anderson for this thread!

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Shutouts are as much about team defence as they are about goaltending.

Ours is still average at best.

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Is this concerning to anyone? I realize that he has picked up his play lately but I believe there is a correlation between shutouts and playoff success. Whether this applies to Anderson or the defence in front of him, I believe it is still concern.



As you can see on the graph, when teams are shutout often, they fail to make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs. While this is because of offensive discrepancies, you can connect it with defence too. If Ottawa shuts out teams, it will reduce their chances of making it far in the playoffs.
We still have not been shutout though, so that is a very promising stat.

It seems goaltenders with a lot of shutouts make it to the finals or win the cup.
Last year, Thomas had 9 shutouts while Luongo had 4
The year before, Fleury had 4 shutouts.
When Emery took us to the finals, he had 5.

I think and hope our stats will improve as we were not good early on and Anderson has improved along with the defence has improved a lot.

I am just bringing this up as I feel a strong team and goaltender must be able to completely shut down teams to be able to be a real strong contender.

"Shut-Outs" to Craig Anderson for this thread!
So according to the average we will play 11 games

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When the team is scoring as much as the Sens are, the only people who should care about shutouts are people who have him on their fantasy teams

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When the team is scoring as much as the Sens are, the only people who should care about shutouts are people who have him on their fantasy teams
Scoring usually drops in the post-season.

If we want to make any noise, we have to tighten things up.

But I agree that there's nothing inherently special about shutouts. Giving up one goal isn't much of a difference in the grand scheme of things, considering we've never been shutout IIRC.

Mainly, we need to take fewer penalties, keep shots against numbers down, and try and get better at pinning opposing teams in our own zone and making easy clearances when required.

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So according to the average we will play 11 games
We will play around 11 because we don't get shutout. However, if our shutouts increase then I believe we will play more.

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"when teams are shutout often"
The Sens have no trouble scoring and so far have not been shut out so it doesn't apply to them.

That's the key phrase. The reverse is not necessarily related or true.

Maybe if you did another graph with teams who only score one goal or even two goals it might show that they often get eliminated early too.

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So what you're saying is, we're getting shutout tonight?

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The Sens have no trouble scoring and so far have not been shut out so it doesn't apply to them.

That's the key phrase. The reverse is not necessarily related or true.

Maybe if you did another graph with teams who only score one goal or even two goals it might show that they often get eliminated early too.
As Nyquil said, games get tighter and lower scoring in the playoffs, so the ability to shut down a team with 0 goals against and get shutouts is huge.

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So what you're saying is, we're getting shutout tonight?
Hopefully the other way around, we need it for the playoffs. Every shutout = more games in the playoffs, gauranteed.

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teams that are shut out often obviously have major scoring issues throughout the lineup.

teams that shut others out often play good defence, but are also lucky and rely on good goaltending.

i'd be much more worried about the former than the lack of the latter.

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Do you have a graph that correlates leading the NHL in wins, or only losing 12 of 41 starts, to playoff success?

If you want to do a decent stats model it will take a heck of a lot more than one variable.

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This thread raises a very good point which is why I've been cursing the Andersen deal for quite some time. Hopefully Murray deals this worthless filth and let's Lehner take over.

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Do you have a graph that correlates leading the NHL in wins, or only losing 12 of 41 starts, to playoff success?

If you want to do a decent stats model it will take a heck of a lot more than one variable.
Those are easy stats to look up. I'm just stating an important variable that isn't brought up that often. I'm just starting a discussion on one of the best accomplishments in the game, a shutout.

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We should start playing giving Auld morre difficult games and Anderson more games against bottom feeders- this way, we will get more shutouts and we will subsequently advance deeper in the playoffs

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When the team is playing as well as we are right now the number of shutouts Craig Anderson has doesn't concern me. He's playing good right now, that's all that matters.

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This has to be a joke. And I think it's mr stamina

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So what you're saying is, we're getting shutout tonight?

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So what you're saying is, we're getting shutout tonight?
Boom. That just happened.

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So what you're saying is, we're getting shutout tonight?
Someone ban this guy

This shutout is not good for the sens playoff hopes.

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Someone close this thread and end this one-joke wonder.

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This has to be a joke. And I think it's mr stamina
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