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01-17-2012, 08:02 AM
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You know we can look at this a different way. In the last 5 years the last playoff team got in with the following points:

93
88
93
94
92

So let's say we need 94 points - just to be on the safe side. We're presently at 42 points.

There are 5 games left in January - 4 of them against teams our level. Let's say we get 7 out of 10. That puts us at 49 for the end of January.

In Feb we have 13 games - all but one (Boston) are against teams our level. If we get 20 points that puts us at 69 points.

In March we got 14 games - all but 3 are against teams our level. They are Flyers, canucks & Rangers. We need to get 21 points that puts us at 90 points.

In April we got games against Tampa Bay, Caroline & T.O. We would need to win two or get 4 points.

It's possible if this weekend's Habs shows up especially if you look at the teams we will face. From today till the end of the season the only strong teams we face are:

Detroit 1
Bruins 1
Canucks 1
Flyers 1
Rangers 1

The rest are

Caps 3
Pens 1
T.O. 4
Sabres 4
Devils 2
Jets 1
N.Y.I. 2
Canes 2
Stars 1
Panthers 2
Wild 1
Flames 1
Oilers 1
Sens 3
Tampa Bay 1

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01-17-2012, 08:08 AM
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No team in 20 some odd years has ever come back and made the PO after being 10 pts behind at this stage of a season.
Well time to start winning if they are to change that!
Go Habs Go!
Great then. cause we're 8 not 10 points out.

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01-17-2012, 08:10 AM
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You know we can look at this a different way. In the last 5 years the last playoff team got in with the following points:

93
88
93
94
92

So let's say we need 94 points - just to be on the safe side. We're presently at 42 points.

There are 5 games left in January - 4 of them against teams our level. Let's say we get 7 out of 10. That puts us at 49 for the end of January.

In Feb we have 13 games - all but one (Boston) are against teams our level. If we get 20 points that puts us at 69 points.

In March we got 14 games - all but 3 are against teams our level. They are Flyers, canucks & Rangers. We need to get 21 points that puts us at 90 points.

In April we got games against Tampa Bay, Caroline & T.O. We would need to win two or get 4 points.

It's possible if this weekend's Habs shows up especially if you look at the teams we will face. From today till the end of the season the only strong teams we face are:

Detroit 1
Bruins 1
Canucks 1
Flyers 1
Rangers 1

The rest are

Caps 3
Pens 1
T.O. 4
Sabres 4
Devils 2
Jets 1
N.Y.I. 2
Canes 2
Stars 1
Panthers 2
Wild 1
Flames 1
Oilers 1
Sens 3
Tampa Bay 1
thanks for a breakdown. Like i said the most important week they have to win not lose.

Go Habs Go

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01-17-2012, 08:14 AM
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I don't want this season to be over, i believe or at least i want to believe in a come back run at it. It gives a sense of joy and being part of something for the fans. If the team can come back and win a cup this year, it will be remembered as the very very best cup in the history of the sport. Who wouldn't want to be part of that?? It would out do all the other 24cups, god knows iv'e seen some good ones, 72 and 93 were the best for me.

To me thats what hockey is, its not having a one star player team, it's having a team that won't give up till it's over, heart and soul team if you will. Play the last game like it's the first game of the season.

Tossing in the towel is nothing more than a sense of lost and why would i bother to watch, if the team is gonna do that. You'll find yourself tossing the towel more often then not. Give it your best shot every season

Getting a 1st is great, but in a most cases that first is three years down the road before paying off. I really think the habs can re-tool on the fly. The cammy deal should have been done as soon as they starting talking in late Nov. The Gomez thing should have been dealt with before his lasy injury. Another one that comes to mine is the gionta thing.
He got off to a bad start last yr, again this season and now injuries. Don't see him as part of this team going forward unless it's for less money and a third line roll.

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01-17-2012, 08:23 AM
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"To disbelieve is easy; to scoff is simple; to have faith is harder"
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I've got the faith!

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01-17-2012, 08:24 AM
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Either make the playoffs or finish dead last. I don't wanna float in 10th place, miss the playoffs and draft an AHLer...

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01-17-2012, 08:26 AM
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Either make the playoffs or finish dead last. I don't wanna float in 10th place, miss the playoffs and draft an AHLer...
To many of those in the past 20 years.

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01-17-2012, 08:34 AM
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I got my eyes glued to the standings ... it's going to be a tight finish
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01-17-2012, 09:19 AM
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To be honest I'd much rather have Grigorenko etc than a 1st round exit, 9th-12th place, etc. However I do still believe in this team regardless.

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01-17-2012, 09:26 AM
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My believe kind of went out the window the morning of December 17th, but I never stopped watching the games and always want them to win. Just not as invested emotionally since that day.

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01-17-2012, 09:45 AM
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Positives this year...

1 - firing Idiot Martin (although the timing was questionable)
2 - trading Cammalerri
3 - Gorges is as good as ever
4 - Diaz and Emelin have adapted very well
5 - Max Pac returning better than ever after Chara's non suspendable hit
6 - Erik Cole is better than expected
7 - DD is better than expected and has earned his spot in the NHL
8 - Moen having a career year
9 - Most of the time, the tandem of Eller and AK is fun to watch
10 - Leblanc was pretty good during his stint
11 - Gallaguer in the WHL and the World Juniors
12 - Price has been very good, Budaj is a very capable backup

12 positive things about the Habs!


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01-17-2012, 09:46 AM
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As much as I'd love a top 5 pick, the team playing well and winning gives me much more pleasure.

If we can push for 8th place or higher, then go Habs go. I'd love to make the playoffs.

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01-17-2012, 10:02 AM
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They have put themselves in an awful hole, and it doesn't seem like a team that could go on a good run ( 7-2-2 ) but yet, for some reason I find myself thinking they just may turn this around?

I am a glass half full kinda guy though...

They do control their own destiny, and RC is fighting for his job, he will not let them quit...

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01-17-2012, 10:21 AM
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here is the actual situation

Team - division - GP - pts - (home-away)
NEW JERSEY ATL 44 52 (1-1)
WASHINGTON SE 43 50 (2-2)
PITTSBURGH ATL 44 50 (1-1)
TORONTO NE 44 49 (2-2)
WINNIPEG SE 45 47 (0-1)
BUFFALO NE 45 43 (1-3)
MONTRÉAL NE 45 42
=========================
(7H-10A)

18 games HOME
19 games AWAY

7 teams 3 spots (
17 games against important teams
VS west 6 games

eastern team only
vs bottom seed(13-14-15) 6 games
vs top seed (1-2-3-4-5) 8 games

I have faith

half of the games are against teams fighting for a playoffs spot
we have our destiny


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01-17-2012, 10:22 AM
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Friday the team was 7 points away

This weekend was great 3 points out of 4 they played for .750

Results after all of sundays game they lost ground and are now 8 points behind

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01-17-2012, 11:13 AM
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As much as I'd love a top 5 pick, the team playing well and winning gives me much more pleasure.

If we can push for 8th place or higher, then go Habs go. I'd love to make the playoffs.
The way I think of it is like this. We've already suffered through many close losses and even some boring games this year. I'd much rather get a top 5 pick this year and do another 4 months of this than do it for another 5 years. Adding a guy like Grigorenko will absolutely change the dynamic of this team. A first round exit or being a bubble team won't help us at all.

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01-17-2012, 11:32 AM
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Positives this year...

1 - firing Martin (although the timing was questionable)
2 - trading Cammalerri
3 - Gorges is a good as ever
4 - Diaz and Emelin have adapted very well
5 - Max Pac returning better than ever after Chara's non suspendable hit
6 - Erik Cole is as good as expected
7 - DD is better than expected and has earned his spot in the NHL
8 - Moen having a career year
9 - Most of the time, the tandem of Eller and AK is fun to watch
10 - Leblanc was pretty good during his stint
11 - Gallaguer in the WHL and the World Juniors
12 - Price has been good, Budaj is a very capable backup

12 positive things about the Habs!
fixed a few small things, but otherwise, good list!

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01-17-2012, 11:40 AM
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Didn't we say no jackasses allowed in this thread? (why are Grigorenko and 1st round picks being talked about in the ****ing POSITIVE thread?).

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Didn't we say no jackasses allowed in this thread? (why are Grigorenko and 1st round picks being talked about in the ****ing POSITIVE thread?).
That's impossible, this thread is a target for jackasses.

That and trend seems to be on HF that repeating the same opinion over and over will convince everyone to adopt it.

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Didn't we say no jackasses allowed in this thread? (why are Grigorenko and 1st round picks being talked about in the ****ing POSITIVE thread?).
maybe b/c some fans believe that ending up with an elite talent up front via the draft IS a positive

who are you to decide what positive means for everyone (and what sense does it make to make an obnoxious and obviously negative post in a positive thread )

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maybe b/c some fans believe that ending up with an elite talent up front via the draft IS a positive

who are you to decide what positive means for everyone (and what sense does it make to make an obnoxious and obviously negative post in a positive thread )
Oh come on...

"BELIEVE".

What do you think that means? A good draft position, or making the playoffs?


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01-17-2012, 11:49 AM
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maybe b/c some fans believe that ending up with an elite talent up front via the draft IS a positive

who are you to decide what positive means for everyone (and what sense does it make to make an obnoxious and obviously negative post in a positive thread )
lol please, i think your smart enough to get the gist of this thread, and if you need to be clear, its about making the PO's. Yes the race to mediocrity. And no i don't care what your opinion is about how and why we should make the PO's.

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lol please, i think your smart enough to get the gist of this thread, and if you need to be clear, its about making the PO's. Yes the race to mediocrity. And no i don't care what your opinion is about how and why we should make the PO's.
Clearly not.

BELIEVE most certainly does not denote what the intention of this thread was.

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Didn't we say no jackasses allowed in this thread?
Let me in! Let me in!

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lol please, i think your smart enough to get the gist of this thread, and if you need to be clear, its about making the PO's. Yes the race to mediocrity. And no i don't care what your opinion is about how and why we should make the PO's.
biggest gist of a POSITIVE thread, would be to stay positive, no?



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To be honest I'd much rather have Grigorenko etc than a 1st round exit, 9th-12th place, etc. However I do still believe in this team regardless.
positive (despite mentioning 1st/grig)

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As much as I'd love a top 5 pick, the team playing well and winning gives me much more pleasure.

If we can push for 8th place or higher, then go Habs go. I'd love to make the playoffs.
positive (despite mentioning 1st/grig)

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Didn't we say no jackasses allowed in this thread? (why are Grigorenko and 1st round picks being talked about in the ****ing POSITIVE thread?).
negative (while mentioning 1st/grig)

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That's impossible, this thread is a target for jackasses.

That and trend seems to be on HF that repeating the same opinion over and over will convince everyone to adopt it.
negative




So, uiCK, perhaps it is you and Coldplay that need a bit of comprehension on what being "positive" means

if we could dispense with all the personal attacks and holier-than-thou posts, i think most threads would remain much more positive, even as people discuss opposing views or different perspectives.

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