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Nash/Ryan/Vanek/Doan to LA

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01-16-2012, 08:21 PM
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No, I didn't mean for Nash. I meant what defenseman would you be looking to target that could conceivably be available?
Honestly not sure. I'd have to do more research; I only have a vague idea of who's on the Kings blueline roster, not who's actually doing what. I know the skillset, not the players, and I have this bad habit of daydreaming about a Bouwmeester or Suter.

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Those players are actually extremely valuable for LA, a little tongue and cheek on my part. Kings would be hurting without them.

Prospal might be doable and has always put up decent numbers. Is he a UFA at the end of the year?
I imagine they would be. And yeah, Prospal's a UFA. One I'd love to trade at the deadline and resign in the summer if he'd go for it.

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01-16-2012, 08:48 PM
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Prospal or another UFA is more along the lines of what I'm actually expecting DL to do if anything. Would Columbus be interested in picks or do they need something coming back the other way?

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01-16-2012, 09:03 PM
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want doan
want ryan, never gonna happen unless we do a ninja three way
want vanek but price tag will be too high
stay far far away from nash

so what does phoenix think is a fair offer for doan?

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01-16-2012, 09:10 PM
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I wouldn't want Nash if he were on waivers. Ryan would be ok but we can't afford him. Doan is older than I'd like.

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01-16-2012, 09:12 PM
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I understand why you feel this way, but I think the best the Kings could do would be Brown + ???? and even then I'm not sure.

I don't think there is a deal to be had for a top scoring winger right now. The Kings could do something to add depth though and I would suggest packaging one of our young defensemen (Martinez, Hickey, Muzzin, etc.) with a high pick should be what Lombardi should be trying to do to land a talented young winger from another organization that may be somewhat blocked by the talent ahead of him in his current organization.

I don't think the names Ryan, Nash, Vanek, or Doan are thinking outside the box. The Kings need to identify what they believe is a young diamond in the rough and make a fair offer to a team whose prospect pool is shallow on the back end.
Yea, MPS or Brett Connolly make more sense

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01-16-2012, 09:29 PM
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Prospal or another UFA is more along the lines of what I'm actually expecting DL to do if anything. Would Columbus be interested in picks or do they need something coming back the other way?
Depending on their value, picks would be fine. We're hoping to do a deadline draft pick bidding war with Prospal, though (the ultimate goal would be a first-rounder), so be warned.

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01-16-2012, 10:25 PM
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the jackets would have to add a fair amount to nash for doughty and some of you guys (and gals ) are silly for thinking otherwise

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01-16-2012, 10:39 PM
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How you figure...kopitar and richards are established players....ryan has had one great season.
HUH?

3 straight 30 goal seasons. Every year since joining the NHL.

He had 72 points in 82 games with 34 goals. Only 5 were PPG since he gets no PP time. so like I said..... HUH?

Kopitar PPG: .91
Kopitar GPG: .34

Richards PPG: .76
Richards GPG: .29

Ryan PPG: .78 (it was .88 before the first 40 games of this season)
Ryan GPG: .41

I am not one who thinks stats say everything....but cmon

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01-16-2012, 10:41 PM
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Vanek>>>Brown

Vanek>Richards

Only player I'd trade Vanek for is Kopitar and obviously LA says no.But Vanek is better then Richards, he has produced far more.Vanek is the best goal scorer from the famed '03 draft.

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01-16-2012, 10:51 PM
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I wouldn't want Nash if he were on waivers. Ryan would be ok but we can't afford him. Doan is older than I'd like.
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want doan
want ryan, never gonna happen unless we do a ninja three way
want vanek but price tag will be too high
stay far far away from nash

so what does phoenix think is a fair offer for doan?
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the jackets would have to add a fair amount to nash for doughty and some of you guys (and gals ) are silly for thinking otherwise
I know he is having a tough season on a struggling team, but why all the hate?

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01-17-2012, 01:11 AM
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Vanek>>>Brown

Vanek>Richards

Only player I'd trade Vanek for is Kopitar and obviously LA says no.But Vanek is better then Richards, he has produced far more.Vanek is the best goal scorer from the famed '03 draft.
Perry?

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01-17-2012, 02:06 AM
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Perry?
Vaneks career GPG is the highest out of anyone from 03... Including Perry, Getzlaf, Carter, Parise etc

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01-17-2012, 03:12 AM
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How about Carter?




Jack Johnson
Bernier
Martinez





Jeff Carter
Derek Dorsett

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01-17-2012, 03:16 AM
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It's obviously unlikely if the Sabres blow up the team it will be to build around Vanek, Myers and Pominville, but since everyone ruins these threads by posting "OMFG IT WILL NEVAR HAPPEN!!!111" as if their teams GM is going to pick up the phone and do the deal if they propose it...

Something based around Jonathan Bernier would make sense, because getting a young goalie to pair with Enroth in the case of a complete rebuild - in which I'm assuming Miller is dealt - seems logical. I don't know enough about the Kings prospects to make a proposal, but something around LA's first and Bernier. I guess you guys have Stoll, Penner and Mitchell coming off the books this summer, so it'd have to be a draft day deal to get the pick, or you'd have to clear a lot of salary at the deadline.

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01-17-2012, 04:08 AM
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Vaneks career GPG is the highest out of anyone from 03... Including Perry, Getzlaf, Carter, Parise etc
Hmm I stand corrected. I though he had only topped 30 twice and 40 once.

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01-17-2012, 06:06 AM
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How about Carter?




Jack Johnson
Bernier
Martinez





Jeff Carter
Derek Dorsett
Johnson, Bernier, and a 3rd for Carter and Mason/Sanford

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I know he is having a tough season on a struggling team, but why all the hate?
I'm not hating.. i have hung out with him a fair amount of times, I love his game, and I love watching him play (no reason to hate).. that being said, a star d with superstar potential is always more valuable than a star winger who is a franchise player only because columbus has no one better.

I have made countless variations on a nash for doughty trade on here and thinks it helps both teams, but I don't think it is even straight up.


and I make that trade to bring JJ and Bernier here for carter and whatever in a couple seconds.. doubt martinez would even need to be thrown in.

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you have to remember.....theres a salery cap

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01-17-2012, 02:25 PM
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Johnson, Bernier, and a 3rd for Carter and Mason/Sanford
That would be... somewhat more tolerable. I just don't like the idea of giving up on Carter so quickly. And DD shouldn't be going anywhere.

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