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01-18-2012, 07:25 AM
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FoxTrax puck

Remember the horribly implemented laser puck know as FoxTrax? I hated it for plenty of reasons except for one. When the puck was on the near side boards the puck could be seen through the boards in a x-ray effect. This made it easy to follow battles and know who won instead of just looking at the players head and guessing if he has the puck or not. Wish they would bring it back just for this reason. I could do without the laser slapshots though.


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Remember the horribly implemented laser puck know as FoxTrax? I hated it for plenty of reasons except for one. When the puck was on the near side boards the puck could be seen through the boards in a x-ray effect. This made it easy to follow battles and know who won instead of just looking at the players head and guessing if he has the puck or not. Wish they would bring it back just for this reason. I could do without the laser slapshots though.
no thanks. fox can stay away from the game.

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I'm not talking about giving hockey back to Fox. I would like any network to implement the technology, but not how Fox handled it.

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They tried something and thought out of the box; however, it was too intrusive for a broadcast. The battling FOX robots, shown when the score was given, was a positive. That said, depending on one's taste, there's too much clutter with graphics in other sports, too. Rotating ads behind home plate in baseball can be distracting. And football broadcasts that begin with players introducing themselves or the constant on-screen statistical minutia reduces the quality.

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Apparently NBC is considering using their own technology for this.

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I do think it would make the game easier to watch for casual fans, which would hopefully bring more to the game. I cant count the number of people have tried watch a hockey game with me and tell me they can't follow the puck. I remember learning to watch the game when I was little and thinking the same thing - I would essentially just wait for the players to raise their hands in celebration to know a goal was scored. Now that I've been watching for so long, I understand the body langauge of the players, which helps track the puck, but that doesn't come easy to the visual observers.

All that being said, it needs to be done less "gimmicky", like changing the puck from blue-red was dumb. It could have a very positive effect on the game if it's done in a subtle way, but there are people a lot smarter than me to figure that part out.

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I saw something somewhere saying the players didn't like it because the puck was heavier or something.

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I wish it was an option for the viewer to choose. If you like it you can turn it on, if not you can turn it off. Let the viewer decide, but credit to fox it was a progressive idea at the time.

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The answer to this is more camera views (like they have now) not a glowing puck.

And I don't like that NBC one either.

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The answer to this is more camera views (like they have now) not a glowing puck.

And I don't like that NBC one either.
Also HDTV. The puck's a lot easier to keep track of now, so it's not needed IMO. I liked it at the time though.


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players didnt like the feel of the puck. it didnt feel like a normal puck. May of been heavier or such. The other thing too is rather than say 3 bucks for a puck i believe each one of those fox trax pucks were a couple hundred when they lost on into the stands. that being said. i dont want ticket prices to be any higher if they dont have to be.

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01-18-2012, 11:12 AM
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When the puck is along the nearside boards, simply cut to the end cameras.

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It doesn't make sense to me when people say they can't follow the puck. It's really not hard to pick up at all.

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It doesn't make sense to me when people say they can't follow the puck. It's really not hard to pick up at all.
I've found it really depends on the broadcast. Some teams' broadcasts look better than others, and it's easier to track it. There are some where I even have a hard time following the puck. Maybe it's the white balance on the cameras or something. It's the one thing I like about Boston's broadcasts; the puck looks huge. Minny's was good last night, too.

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Some rinks have crappier camera angles than others, MSG comes to mind. Some rinks even look to be darker than normal too.

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I've found it really depends on the broadcast. Some teams' broadcasts look better than others, and it's easier to track it. There are some where I even have a hard time following the puck. Maybe it's the white balance on the cameras or something. It's the one thing I like about Boston's broadcasts; the puck looks huge. Minny's was good last night, too.

I've been watching the Oilers broadcast on Gamecenter. It looks amazing! It's so bright. Don't know if it's their camera's or lighting in the arena.

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I thought it was great on CRT TVs, but it really isn't needed in the age of HD. I didn't mind it at the time because it was useful at times, especially if the camera work was bad, but looking at old videos it strikes me as an eyesore now.

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Some rinks have crappier camera angles than others, MSG comes to mind. Some rinks even look to be darker than normal too.
hate watching games from MSG

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players didnt like the feel of the puck. it didnt feel like a normal puck. May of been heavier or such. The other thing too is rather than say 3 bucks for a puck i believe each one of those fox trax pucks were a couple hundred when they lost on into the stands. that being said. i dont want ticket prices to be any higher if they dont have to be.
The ushers used to mug whoever got one of those to give it back.

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hate watching games from MSG
Agreed on MSG. I feel the same about watching games from Nassau Coliseum, it also feels like the "center ice" camera is more towards one of the blue lines.

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It doesn't make sense to me when people say they can't follow the puck. It's really not hard to pick up at all.
I always tell people new to hockey to watch for the player's reactions, don't try and just watch the puck... how they react shows you where it is.

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Apparently NBC is considering using their own technology for this.
That....was....fugly.

Bring back the FOX style for the Allstar game.

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I could be mistaken but one year did we try to have a light shine down onto the rink on top of the puck? It really confused everyone and Danny B scored a goalie promptly - never having the light used again? Maybe I'm mistaken or maybe it was only done by accident.

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I could be mistaken but one year did we try to have a light shine down onto the rink on top of the puck? It really confused everyone and Danny B scored a goalie promptly - never having the light used again? Maybe I'm mistaken or maybe it was only done by accident.

Hahhahahhaha I think the light was turned on by accident in some game. I can't see the NHL allowing a light to be shined down on a puck. That would obstruct the goalie's view and cause many other problems.

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Agreed on MSG. I feel the same about watching games from Nassau Coliseum, it also feels like the "center ice" camera is more towards one of the blue lines.
pretty sure the camera at the wells fargo center is situated at the left (broadcast view) blue line.

edit: nevermind, it's in between center ice and the blue line.

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