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01-19-2012, 08:47 AM
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we should have a poll on who to keep on D

Torts mentioned maybe conditioning stints after the All Star game when Woywitka, Eminger, Sauer all back likely

I vote waive Woywitka and Bickel but if they want to hide guys on Conditioning stints sure

Can a player play in the playoffs if picked up on waivers after the Trade deadline? If not I can see stalling to waive guys till after so they are less likely to get claimed

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01-19-2012, 01:18 PM
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ADD A power forward in place of wolski... if nobody wants to trade wolski for picks...then try Wolski+pick/prospect for Tuomo Ruutu(similar goal totals/ inj problems)

or straight up Wolski for a good hitting Defender like a Schultz/Stoner from Minnesota

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01-19-2012, 09:38 PM
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For a couple games (maybe after Boston):

Feds - Stepan - Gaborik
Dubinsky - AA - Callahan
Wolski - Richards - Hagelin
Rupp/Mitchell - Boyle - Prust

I would try it...
Spreads out the attack...
Hagelin & Feds might be switched too...

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01-19-2012, 10:05 PM
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Dubinsky. Richards. Gaborik
Hagelin. Stepan. Callahan
Fedotenko. Anisimov. Mitchell
Rupp. Boyle. Prust

Get Richards going. He's pressing hard to generate. He needs some skill to pass to.

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01-19-2012, 11:53 PM
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Dubinsky. Richards. Gaborik
Hagelin. Stepan. Callahan
Fedotenko. Anisimov. Mitchell
Rupp. Boyle. Prust

Get Richards going. He's pressing hard to generate. He needs some skill to pass to.
Can't argue with this. Bringing up Richards certainly won't hurt him, and we still have 2 legitimate scoring lines. Dubinsky has been very active in the offense lately, and I think this will get Richards involved as well so that we can start noticing him on the ice again. On the second line, I think Hagelin would work well with Stepan and Cally. Speed + Smarts + Toughness provides a nice dynamic.

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01-20-2012, 12:11 AM
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Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Stepan-Mitchell
Prust-Boyle-Rupp

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01-20-2012, 12:34 AM
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Posted in another thread. Would like to see MZA get a shot.

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
MZA-Richards-Dubinsky
Cally-AA-Feds
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Or
Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
MZA-Stepan-Dubinsky
Cally-AA-Feds
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Just throwing out ideas. Doubt Torts would try this.

Cally and Dubi can be switched.

Also this could set up NYR trading for another scorer. Put that guy in Feds spot and then rotate Feds,Rupp,Boyle and Prust on line 4.

Any Thoughts?

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01-20-2012, 12:34 AM
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Dubinsky. Richards. Gaborik
Hagelin. Stepan. Callahan
Fedotenko. Anisimov. Mitchell
Rupp. Boyle. Prust

Get Richards going. He's pressing hard to generate. He needs some skill to pass to.
Switch Gabby with Cally and I'm sold. I'd like the 2nd line to have two fast wingers with Stepan to accompany them.

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01-20-2012, 12:54 AM
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This team needs to wake up from its offensive slumber

Dubinsky - Richards - Gaborik
Anisimov - Stepan - Callahan
Hagelin - Boyle - MZA
Feds/Mitchell - Rupp - Prust

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01-20-2012, 07:21 AM
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Can't argue with this. Bringing up Richards certainly won't hurt him, and we still have 2 legitimate scoring lines. Dubinsky has been very active in the offense lately, and I think this will get Richards involved as well so that we can start noticing him on the ice again. On the second line, I think Hagelin would work well with Stepan and Cally. Speed + Smarts + Toughness provides a nice dynamic.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Hagelin and Stepan looked good together.

Dubinsky. Stepan. Callahan didn't work in the past.

Dubinsky worked with Richards. Richards needs to stop pressing and be able to feed a scorer. Gaborik.

Callahan can't be dropped to the third line, no one else can handle top six duties.

Like a math equation.

Lead me to:

Dubinsky. Richards. Gaborik
Hagelin. Stepan. Callahan
Fedotenko. Anisimov. Mitchell
Rupp. Boyle. Prust

Would sure be nice to be able to insert Kreider into this lineup.

Hagelin is showing what speed can do.

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01-20-2012, 07:27 AM
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why not put Richards and Gabby together and reunite the Packline?

Stepan, Richards, Gaboirk
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Hagelin, Boyle, Prust
Rupp, Mitchell, Fedotenko

btw Sather may as well move Wolski and Christensen for another overpriced body.........Dustin Penner? Both would be Free Agents next yr anyways and atleast Penner is big

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01-20-2012, 07:40 AM
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why not put Richards and Gabby together and reunite the Packline?

Stepan, Richards, Gaboirk
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Hagelin, Boyle, Prust
Rupp, Mitchell, Fedotenko

btw Sather may as well move Wolski and Christensen for another overpriced body.........Dustin Penner? Both would be Free Agents next yr anyways and atleast Penner is big
Dustin Penner re-injured his back bending down to eat some pancakes. no joke. and Step's been doin great at center, this year... i personally wouldn't move him, but then again, i'm not the coach. i'm not really sure what to do with those lines... i'd like to see MZA slotted in there at some point, but it seems like Torts won't give him the time of day. starting to think he could be packaged with Wolski at some point... might as well trade both of them and get something in return as opposed to letting MZA walk away at the end of the season.

but this isn't a trade thread. linewise, i think Step should stay slotted as 2nd line center, if not 1st (depending on what line Torts puts Gab) with Richards as the 1st, if not 2nd (again, depending on who his wingers are, here) and Artie as the 3rd line Center, possibly moving him over to wing at times.

with the wingers we have right now, though, we won't be doing too much offensively... sure they could chip in, but aside from Gab, nobody's really expected to score 30 goals. hopefully Kreider can start to fill that void, come next season.

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01-20-2012, 07:50 AM
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Fans need to focus less about offensive chemistry and more about forechecking chemistry. If Shelley, Anisimov, Prust can be a dominant line then any trio can.

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01-20-2012, 09:16 AM
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Fans need to focus less about offensive chemistry and more about forechecking chemistry. If Shelley, Anisimov, Prust can be a dominant line then any trio can.
How dominant a line were they really? And for how long a period of time?

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01-20-2012, 09:57 AM
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I was at the game last night and Torts had a bad night. Moving Prust to the second line was a disaster. Only one line had any sustained pressure in the offensive zone and that was Steps' line.

Every night we dress at a minimum four 4th liners (and maybe more depending on your opinion of John Mitchell). Feds at this point in his career is a 4th liner as are Rupp, Boyle and Prust. On any given night three of those guys should be dressed and that should be our 4th line. None of them should be expected to score consistently and therefore should not be in a top 9 position.

If we want to compete in the second season with the best teams in the East we will need a 3rd line that needs to be defended; one that has the talent to score. Right now (and last night in particular) we dress units with at least one 4th liner on them which destroys many of our promising opportunities.

So, we have

Step and Gabby
Richie, Cally and Dubi
Ani and Mitch

We need to slot Hags and dress a 9th forward who can score. I would keep Hags with Step and Gabby and let them continue to get to know each other. There is alot of puck possession on that line and they will likely score regularly.

As for the left side of Anisimov I would give Wolski a shot. Give him 10 games or so to determine if he can provide the scoring punch we need on that 3rd line. If not I would promote Zucc as he provides what we need right now; creativity and success on the power play. If and only if these two do not work out would I consider moving an asset for a left wing. We are building a winner the right way and I don't want to mortgage any of that future for a run this year as we are likely not there yet. However, if WW or MZA deliver then we could be dangerous as then all 4 lines would be slotted properly with roles they can handle well. That is not what we have today and I blame Torts and his love for Boyle, Prust and Feds for that. Wake up John.

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01-20-2012, 10:06 AM
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Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Stepan-Mitchell
Prust-Boyle-Rupp
I like these lines. Well balanced all the way through

The 2 stars on the first line with Richards and Gaborik
The Pack line had serious chemistry last year.
Stepan centering the third line can make this another dangerous line
The Boyle line has size and toughness with some scoring ability

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01-20-2012, 11:02 AM
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I honestly dont know anymore. I do know that I like gaborik with hagelin and stepan, and Id really like to not seperate gabby from step, but if torts wants to get richards going, maybe reunite him with gaborik again so its Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik.

Id probably say

Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Stepan-Callahan
Fedotenko-Anisimov- Mitchell
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Defense
Go back to last weeks lines, Staal is not ready.

Girardi-MCD
Stralman-Del Zotto
Bickel-Staal

waive woywitka. I would keep bickel ahead of woywitka.

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01-20-2012, 11:17 AM
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The only trick in Torts' bag when the team isn't scoring is to throw more "jam" at the problem. Hence the reason we see guys like Mitchell, Prust, Feds, Rupp, etc, all being given time on the top-two lines. While it's obviously a poor solution, I can't really fault the guy given the lack of offensive skill in the lineup. He's literally thrown just about every option at the elephant on our LW and nothing seems to be working. Hagelin has looked good in that spot some nights, but that's an awful lot to ask of a rookie.

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01-20-2012, 11:25 AM
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Changing the lines around is not going to make much of a difference so long as Gaborik, Richards, and others continue to struggle. Gaborik has 1 goal in his last 11 games. Richards is pointless in his last 6 games. Anismov has been pointless for 13 consecutive games.

It's like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. The aforementioned players have to find it within themselves to be better.

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