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01-20-2012, 08:22 AM
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It would be like the early Bowman era -- three first rounders in back-to-back years (and some extra 2nds too). Granted, there was a guy who was obsessed with his own drafted players, but this could actually be the silver lining in the season: moving out deadwood and landing the bluechip players they need to build toward Cup contention.
Oh the irony that this is what our hopes our now, and the expected disappointment...

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Yeah, who needs a consistent PPG playoff performer when we can have Derek "I stop scoring goals in April no matter what" Roy.
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Yeah, that's my thought too.

Here's hoping the Ducks and Canes go on a winning streak. I feel dirty.

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You rang?

What good would a proven playoff performer be on a team that is up against the cap and well out of the playoff picture? Oh, we need a guy who will verbalize his negative attitude?

Adding a guy like Cams would be akin to the half-assing hybrid I mentioned in a different thread.

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You rang?

What good would a proven playoff performer be on a team that is up against the cap and well out of the playoff picture? Oh, we need a guy who will verbalize his negative attitude?

Adding a guy like Cams would be akin to the half-assing hybrid I mentioned in a different thread.
Well, I won't argue this any further because he's already gone.

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The Habs #1 pick looks to be a lottery pick. I`d be ok with them trading it depending on the player comming back. Darek Roy is not that guy, especially since most of you think The Habs would have to add.

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Well, I won't argue this any further because he's already gone.
True. I just don't think it would've been a good move for a number of reasons. The Sabres need to look at blowing it up, not adding a guy like that.

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01-20-2012, 08:32 AM
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True. I just don't think it would've been a good move for a number of reasons. The Sabres need to look at blowing it up, not adding a guy like that.
Whatever is going to be done (with ANY team), needs to be done now in my opinion...not waiting until the actual trade deadline or the week before it.

I'm just afraid the stench of desperation surrounding the Sabres will cause GMs to undercut their offers dramatically.

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Whatever is going to be done (with ANY team), needs to be done now in my opinion...not waiting until the actual trade deadline or the week before it.

I'm just afraid the stench of desperation surrounding the Sabres will cause GMs to undercut their offers dramatically.
I get where you're coming from, but I can't imagine that the players on this team could decrease their performance this season much further. The only thing left that could impact that would be injuries.

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If Regier is in "Top 6 for Top 6" mode and not "Picks/Prospects/Rookies for Core guys" mode, I wonder what the conversation would be.

Is Regier looking for Eller+ for Roy?

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01-20-2012, 08:48 AM
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If Regier is in "Top 6 for Top 6" mode and not "Picks/Prospects/Rookies for Core guys" mode, I wonder what the conversation would be.

Is Regier looking for Eller+ for Roy?
I hope, after this road trip concludes at 0-6, that it is clear that the "top 6 for top 6" route is NOT the one they should take.

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I hope, after this road trip concludes at 0-6, that it is clear that the "top 6 for top 6" route is NOT the one they should take.
It will be interesting to see what the approach is IF they actually pull off a deal or two.

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I'd consider Eller + 1st or maybe Eller + Leblanc

but again, i think moving Roy is a positive step even at 75 cents on the dollar.

I Like Eller, in a young Jochen Hecht kind of way...
Yeah thats going to happen ! Are you guys adding Myers to that deal ?

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If Regier is in "Top 6 for Top 6" mode and not "Picks/Prospects/Rookies for Core guys" mode, I wonder what the conversation would be.

Is Regier looking for Eller+ for Roy?
Eller was the first name that popped in my head when I saw the thread title. With that said the + would have to be something pretty significant. Doubtful that we could get their 1st and Eller for Roy without adding on our end.

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Yeah thats going to happen ! Are you guys adding Myers to that deal ?
Is that because Leblanc is a super blue chip prospect?

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He's going #1
Exactly, here is to tanking this season completely and getting 2-3 number 1 round draft picks to partake in the semi-rebuild process. I still believe we have quite a few great up and coming players with great goltending. We're just in dire need of some size and more importantly a number one and number two center. Mine as well throw in some leadership while your at.

Whats even more concerning in terms of our current management is what Ottawa did a few weeks ago. Turris was struggling in Phoenix but he was a high first round draft pick. A change of scenery and he is turning into a viable second line center behind Spezza. First rounders almost always have the skill, but sometimes need a change of scenery/coaching/development to really get them going.

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I'd swap Roy straight up for Plekanec.

When they do re-tool this team and have it ready for playoff hockey, IMO Plekanec is the most annoying, suffocating center in the East to play against.

AND he still gets some points up.

Ideal #2C with a shutdown game.

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I'd consider Eller + 1st or maybe Eller + Leblanc

but again, i think moving Roy is a positive step even at 75 cents on the dollar.

I Like Eller, in a young Jochen Hecht kind of way...
I doubt the Habs would trade Eller for Roy, let alone Eller + for him... would be a step backwards for the Canadiens in every sense of the term.

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Is that because Leblanc is a super blue chip prospect?
no its because, we have no use for Roy. And because both Eller and Leblanc alone are worth more than Roy.

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I'd swap Roy straight up for Plekanec.

When they do re-tool this team and have it ready for playoff hockey, IMO Plekanec is the most annoying, suffocating center in the East to play against.

AND he still gets some points up.

Ideal #2C with a shutdown game.
Not sure Plekanec is waiving his Modified NTC to come here

While I like the value of the deal. And Agree with your assessment. I'm way passed the "fix it" stage.

I NEED full rebuild. And moves that try to "save" this thing are worse then doing nothing now.

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no its because, we have no use for Roy. And because both Eller and Leblanc alone are worth more than Roy.
not in the real world.

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no its because, we have no use for Roy. And because both Eller and Leblanc alone are worth more than Roy.
eh, I wouldn't say Leblanc is... if the Habs were in a playoff spot, I suppose Roy could help out, and a deal around the two wouldn't be terrible. It would be bad based on the current state of the team, however.

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eh, I wouldn't say Leblanc is... if the Habs were in a playoff spot, I suppose Roy could help out, and a deal around the two wouldn't be terrible. It would be bad based on the current state of the team, however.
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I doubt the Habs would trade Eller for Roy, let alone Eller + for him... would be a step backwards for the Canadiens in every sense of the term.
Right. I forgot market inflation in Montreal is 56876.43%, where Derek Roy got Eller alone is overpayment by the Habs. Dumb.

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