HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Matt Carkner

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-20-2012, 10:03 AM
  #1
DLJB
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 160
vCash: 500
Matt Carkner

After watching last night's game and holding my breath for the entire Giroux fight, I got to thinking. Why the hell did no one drop the gloves to open up the 3rd? I get what Giroux did, but come on.....Someone had to respond. Shelley, Hartnell, Bourdon, anyone???

With our obvious need for a GOOD stay at home D, why not go after a guy like Matt Carkner. He will drop the gloves with any one in the league, will take care of his peers and he is a solid 3rd pairing Defensive D. He shouldn't cost much to get and he has a nice cap hit (700k). This would even allow for us to get another D to help out.

Timmonen - Coburn
Carle - (Gleason?)
Mes - Carkner

Bourdon/Gus

Thoughts?

DLJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 10:08 AM
  #2
RJ8812
Hellooooo ladiiiies
 
RJ8812's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sudbury
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,704
vCash: 500
ya, i'd take him

but i don't see OTT trading him to us or him becoming a free agent July 1st. but if he does, he'll get way overpaid

RJ8812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 12:28 PM
  #3
Kaktus*
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 22,389
vCash: 500
Rather take Sutton.

Kaktus* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 12:48 PM
  #4
WeekendAtBernies
Registered User
 
WeekendAtBernies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,716
vCash: 500
no.

WeekendAtBernies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 12:50 PM
  #5
GKJ
Global Moderator
Entertainment
 
GKJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Do not trade plz
Country: United States
Posts: 112,567
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLJB View Post
After watching last night's game and holding my breath for the entire Giroux fight, I got to thinking. Why the hell did no one drop the gloves to open up the 3rd?
The Flyers were dead, the crowd was asleep, and the game was in decent control. If you're the Islanders, why would you want to change any of that with a fight?

GKJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 01:00 PM
  #6
RJ8812
Hellooooo ladiiiies
 
RJ8812's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sudbury
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,704
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandlansd View Post
no.
why not?

He's the only true heavyweight in the NHL that can actually take a regular shift. I'd welcome Carkner on this team any day

RJ8812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 01:30 PM
  #7
facts
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 885
vCash: 500
no carkner is awful, shelley awful. I was disappointed that nobody 1. jumped in or 2. followed it up. I wasn't expecting Shelley to because there wasnt anybody on their team for him to go with. But Simmonds, Hartnell where the hell were they. I can tell you this though, the kid who went at G, that was a disrespect for a superior player and that is how the flyers should have handled it. Tavares would have gotten it from somebody, that is what pisses me off. What message is that sending, especially against the isles just after the Talbot garbage? It s ok to go after our franchise player because he will do his own work and fight his own battles. I repect G and his competative nature but that was not good.The message must be sent touch G and pay.

facts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 01:42 PM
  #8
GoneFullHextall
Fire Berube
 
GoneFullHextall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Somewhere in NH
Country: United States
Posts: 32,560
vCash: 50
no on Carkner.

GoneFullHextall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 01:44 PM
  #9
DLJB
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 160
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by facts View Post
no carkner is awful, shelley awful. I was disappointed that nobody 1. jumped in or 2. followed it up. I wasn't expecting Shelley to because there wasnt anybody on their team for him to go with. But Simmonds, Hartnell where the hell were they. I can tell you this though, the kid who went at G, that was a disrespect for a superior player and that is how the flyers should have handled it. Tavares would have gotten it from somebody, that is what pisses me off. What message is that sending, especially against the isles just after the Talbot garbage? It s ok to go after our franchise player because he will do his own work and fight his own battles. I repect G and his competative nature but that was not good.The message must be sent touch G and pay.
You have got to be kidding me. Comparing Carkner to Shelley? Wow. I live in Ottawa and I get to see a lot of Sens games. Carkner is by no means comparable to Shelley. He would be ideal as a 5-6 Defensman in Philly. Come on now....Shelley?

DLJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 02:31 PM
  #10
TheLegendkiller
Registered User
 
TheLegendkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,495
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GKJ View Post
The Flyers were dead, the crowd was asleep, and the game was in decent control. If you're the Islanders, why would you want to change any of that with a fight?

You make somebody fight?

Its really not that hard. You slash enough guys and somebody is gonna wanna fight. If somebody took an obvious run at Tavares then I guarrantee you you're gonna be in a fight. This team is too disciplined sometimes.

TheLegendkiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 04:53 PM
  #11
sobrien
RAFFLCOPTER
 
sobrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 7,039
vCash: 555
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller View Post
You make somebody fight?

Its really not that hard. You slash enough guys and somebody is gonna wanna fight. If somebody took an obvious run at Tavares then I guarrantee you you're gonna be in a fight. This team is too disciplined sometimes.
Must be a frigid day in hell

sobrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 05:13 PM
  #12
TheLegendkiller
Registered User
 
TheLegendkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,495
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobrien View Post
Must be a frigid day in hell

Well too disciplined when it comes to this stuff. Our problem is stick infractions like all the time.

TheLegendkiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 05:46 PM
  #13
Go For It
Registered User
 
Go For It's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Collegeville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 4,271
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller View Post
You make somebody fight?

Its really not that hard. You slash enough guys and somebody is gonna wanna fight. If somebody took an obvious run at Tavares then I guarrantee you you're gonna be in a fight. This team is too disciplined sometimes.
Really? Yeah, let's start slashing everyone and giving the Islanders ample PP's. We might lose the game, but who cares as long as we get another fight!

Go For It is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 06:11 PM
  #14
TheShaneTrain
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: East Greenville
Country: United States
Posts: 198
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Go For It View Post
Really? Yeah, let's start slashing everyone and giving the Islanders ample PP's. We might lose the game, but who cares as long as we get another fight!
as i stated in another thread, its not just about the fight. some people on here assume just because someone is calling for a fight to happen that they're bloodthirsty and just want to see a damn fight.

that's what mma is for, not hockey.

however getting the other teams attention, sending a message that an ahl callup shouldn't be allowed to engage with one of the five or so best players in the league, is rather important. the fact that every player on that team sat back and accepted defeat is in itself unacceptable and needs to change soon.

btw who gives a damn if the crowd isn't into it. the crowd volume is a result of the product on the ice, not the other way around. i have a feeling a few huge hits/a fight or two would've woken them up pretty quick.

TheShaneTrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 06:16 PM
  #15
TheShaneTrain
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: East Greenville
Country: United States
Posts: 198
vCash: 500
keeping things on topic,

carkner would be a pretty decent 5-6 guy. he's miles ahead of shelley in the "useful in any regard" category and should come relatively cheap.

at this point, a tackling dummy in a jeff carter jersey would be an improvement over lilja

TheShaneTrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 06:44 PM
  #16
mirimon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Wrong Town
Country: Sweden
Posts: 2,780
vCash: 500
I don't think Ottawa will look to move Carkner. If we're desperate for a physical 6th dman who can drop the gloves at times, maybe Brookbank from Anaheim?

I'd rather not use any picks to get a player like that though. Bourdon and Gustafsson are holding up well enough as it is.

mirimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 07:49 PM
  #17
GKJ
Global Moderator
Entertainment
 
GKJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Do not trade plz
Country: United States
Posts: 112,567
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller View Post
You make somebody fight?

Its really not that hard. You slash enough guys and somebody is gonna wanna fight. If somebody took an obvious run at Tavares then I guarrantee you you're gonna be in a fight. This team is too disciplined sometimes.
The score is 7-1 at that point since you took 100 slashing penalties.


The other guy has to want to fight. Last time I saw a guy get in a one-man fight, he put the other team on a 9-minute power play.

GKJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 07:52 PM
  #18
Beef Invictus
Global Moderator
Beef Runner
 
Beef Invictus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Centreville
Country: Lord Howe Island
Posts: 42,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GKJ View Post
The other guy has to want to fight. Last time I saw a guy get in a one-man fight, he put the other team on a 9-minute power play.
He really beat the hell out of him though!

Shame about those three PP goals against though.

__________________
Down in the basement, I've got a Craftsman lathe. Show it to the children when they misbehave.
Beef Invictus is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 07:56 PM
  #19
flyerfanish
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 126
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GKJ View Post
The score is 7-1 at that point since you took 100 slashing penalties.


The other guy has to want to fight. Last time I saw a guy get in a one-man fight, he put the other team on a 9-minute power play.
Carcillo vs washington?

flyerfanish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-20-2012, 08:16 PM
  #20
boodangleroo28
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 158
vCash: 500
when people on here are calling for a "fight" or for someone to stand up against a hit (talbot, or simmonds) they are referring to showing some damn emotion, i dont understand how so many people here think people just want bloodshed and a fight. We want our players to show some balls, show they care and show some emotion. I as a fan used to get so charged up seeing richards fight, just as i did when claude fought last night. We have been playing with no emotion this year. no arguing that fact.

boodangleroo28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-21-2012, 01:28 AM
  #21
Go For It
Registered User
 
Go For It's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Collegeville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 4,271
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by boodangleroo28 View Post
when people on here are calling for a "fight" or for someone to stand up against a hit (talbot, or simmonds) they are referring to showing some damn emotion, i dont understand how so many people here think people just want bloodshed and a fight. We want our players to show some balls, show they care and show some emotion. I as a fan used to get so charged up seeing richards fight, just as i did when claude fought last night. We have been playing with no emotion this year. no arguing that fact.
It's not even the all-star break yet. It's a long season. Closer to playoff time and against rivals, you'll see the emotion.

Go For It is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-21-2012, 01:39 AM
  #22
Ryker
Registered User
 
Ryker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Triangle, NC, USA
Country: Slovenia
Posts: 3,102
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLJB View Post
After watching last night's game and holding my breath for the entire Giroux fight, I got to thinking. Why the hell did no one drop the gloves to open up the 3rd? I get what Giroux did, but come on.....Someone had to respond. Shelley, Hartnell, Bourdon, anyone???

With our obvious need for a GOOD stay at home D, why not go after a guy like Matt Carkner. He will drop the gloves with any one in the league, will take care of his peers and he is a solid 3rd pairing Defensive D. He shouldn't cost much to get and he has a nice cap hit (700k). This would even allow for us to get another D to help out.

Timmonen - Coburn
Carle - (Gleason?)
Mes - Carkner

Bourdon/Gus

Thoughts?
Giroux took care of himself, so why the hell WOULD someone drop the gloves to open the third?!

Ryker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-21-2012, 03:09 AM
  #23
WeekendAtBernies
Registered User
 
WeekendAtBernies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,716
vCash: 500
Don't want Carkner @ all.

WeekendAtBernies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-21-2012, 03:21 AM
  #24
TheLegendkiller
Registered User
 
TheLegendkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,495
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Go For It View Post
Really? Yeah, let's start slashing everyone and giving the Islanders ample PP's. We might lose the game, but who cares as long as we get another fight!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GKJ View Post
The score is 7-1 at that point since you took 100 slashing penalties.


The other guy has to want to fight. Last time I saw a guy get in a one-man fight, he put the other team on a 9-minute power play.

Yeahhhh game was already lost by that point chiefs. 4-1 and 7-1 don't make that much of a ****in difference. somethimes message need to be sent. If you're not going to win send a message, I'm old school like that. When the game is already lost don't bring ****in penalties into this. Sometimes you need to man up and do something.

TheLegendkiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-21-2012, 03:30 AM
  #25
Go For It
Registered User
 
Go For It's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Collegeville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 4,271
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller View Post
Yeahhhh game was already lost by that point chiefs. 4-1 and 7-1 don't make that much of a ****in difference. somethimes message need to be sent. If you're not going to win send a message, I'm old school like that. When the game is already lost don't bring ****in penalties into this. Sometimes you need to man up and do something.
Because that's worked so well the past 35 years.

At the beginning of the 3rd, it was 2-1 or 3-1. Game isn't over yet.

Go For It is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.