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Columbus Dispatch: "Don't be surprised...if Carter is sent packing"

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01-22-2012, 02:57 PM
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Has it been overblown?

I'm just saying that if you think there wasn't a problem, then tell me why a team would randomly trade two mid-20 year old players signed to good contracts?...an hour apart.

That tells me something desperately needed to be changed with those two players. And no, Bryzgalov isn't why both were traded (despite what many people seem to think for some reason).
I'm sure there was a problem. But, it's more Pronger and knee jerk reactions than Richards/Carter

If Carter came to the Kings, I certainly wouldn't be upset.

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I don't see the need to move out Carter this soon. Realistically having Carter and Nash gives you a solid scorer on each line. Carter as Nash's centre never made sense to me, but could be lethal as the marks man on separate lines.

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Why are some of these trade proposal include Semin and Harding? Both are UFA after this season. Howson isn't a great GM but I don't think he's that stupid to take on a UFA as one of the main pieces.

I would love to do a Carter + for Yandle type of deal. Carter and Yandle have similar cap hits and Yandle is locked up long term so he can't leave Columbus via UFA, which is 1 key thing for the Blue Jackets.

I wonder if he has more value now until the deadline or after the end of the season. Only problem is if we wait until the end of the season, he could pull *a Pronger and lower is trade value much, much more.
*Pronger asked for a trade from Edmonton during the season. Lowe told him to play out the season to see if he would change his mind. After the Cup loss, Pronger and his wife went to Mexico and then his agent leaked out that he wanted out to one of the reporters. Then the reporter broke the news and made it public.

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Yeah, the Dispatch has a tendency to jump the gun at what THEY think should happen.. They did the same in November with Scott Arniel, they did the same in June of 2010 with Kevin Dineen.

I'll believe it when I see it. But if Carter does get traded I would show Howson the door.

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01-22-2012, 02:58 PM
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The Canucks will eat Mason's salary in exchange for Carter...

maybe
To Van: Carter + Mason
To CBJ: 1st + a prospect (and Hodgson and Schneider are not prospects)

Gillman will take care of the cap.
Gillman is skilled, but there's no way to make the salary work without dumping some of our own players. Ballard at the very least has to go the other way.

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01-22-2012, 02:59 PM
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ehhh the guy didn't want to be there in the first place!

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01-22-2012, 03:00 PM
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Berglund
Bishop
2nd

Carter
Mason
Why would St Louis take Mason? Halak/Elliot/Mason, all making millions+. Unless you plan on trading Halak and rolling with Elliot/Mason or bury Mason in the minors.

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01-22-2012, 03:03 PM
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I know his contract sucks, but I'd like Nashville to take a run at him.
Out of total curiosity, what might Nashville offer for Carter? If GMSH would deal a piece to Nashville with which they could further curbstomp Columbus (it's bad enough as it is) for picks & prospects, he'd deserve a trip to the bottom of the Olentangy River.

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they need defenceman first, can't believe they gave Kris Russell away.
As others have said, that deal paid off. Nikitin has been a pleasant surprise in Columbus and has been more productive than Russell was to that point.

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How does Scott Howson still have a job? I'd like to hear from Columbus fans on this one, because even I a Jets fan get a little bit angry inside watching the way this team is managed.
Our team president, Mike Priest, is equally incompetent.

"Everything is fine. We're all friends here. It'll get better. Hope springs eternal. Do nothing, hope for best."

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01-22-2012, 03:05 PM
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Gillman is skilled, but there's no way to make the salary work without dumping some of our own players. Ballard at the very least has to go the other way.
We can get value for Ballard somewhere else, although he is kind of what CBJ needs... Top4 on a longterm deal.

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The Blue Jackets are the new Thrashers.

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01-22-2012, 03:06 PM
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So then don't play them on the same line. How many teams have former 40-goal scorers on two different lines.


I mean seriously.


They should fire Howson, but I'm sure being the Blue Jackets they'll do something just as dumb like hire Don Waddell or Rick Dudley or something.

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01-22-2012, 03:08 PM
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The Canucks will eat Mason's salary in exchange for Carter...

maybe
To Van: Carter + Mason
To CBJ: 1st + a prospect (and Hodgson and Schneider are not prospects)

Gillman will take care of the cap.
That's unbelievably bad. That's like this:

To Columbus - Ryan Kesler, Keith Ballard
To Vancouver - 2nd rounder (since Vancouver's 1st-rounder and Columbus' 2nd-rounder are probably about three picks apart), Matt Calvert

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01-22-2012, 03:10 PM
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Carter proved to me this year that he's just not good. In fact, he's a big whiny baby. Has no desire to play in CLB (in spite of his statements) and was clearly a byproduct of the great players he had in Philadelphia. I respected the move, because it shook things up and generated interest in CLB, but if I was running a team I'd be very weary of acquiring this overrated softie. Send him to a team with lots of playmakers if you want to get at least something out of the guy.

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Giordano, Backlund, Stajan (cap dump) for Carter.

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01-22-2012, 03:11 PM
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so sad how much they gave up for carter, and if they move him they will not get close to the return they gave up

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01-22-2012, 03:12 PM
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Giordano, Backlund, Stajan (cap dump) for Carter.
That's decent value in return. Feaster would do that I'm sure.

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01-22-2012, 03:16 PM
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No big shocker two pure goal scorers didn't find chemistry.

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If CBJ sends Carter packing, hopefully they've got a taxi at the ready to send Howson to the airport with him.

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01-22-2012, 03:18 PM
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If CBJ sends Carter packing, hopefully they've got a taxi at the ready to send Howson to the airport with him.
Agreed.

But I still don't think we trade Carter.

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01-22-2012, 03:19 PM
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I wonder if a PLEKANEK, CAMPOLI and a 3rd in 2012 for Carter and a 3rd this year? Would that work?

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That's unbelievably bad. That's like this:

To Columbus - Ryan Kesler, Keith Ballard
To Vancouver - 2nd rounder (since Vancouver's 1st-rounder and Columbus' 2nd-rounder are probably about three picks apart), Matt Calvert
Right because Jeff Carter and Ryan Kesler have similar value Carter is looking to be shipped out by the Jackets, while Kesler is the most untouchable player the Canucks have. Honestly I wouldn't claim Carter if he was on waivers, he isn't a MG type of player.

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Agreed.

But I still don't think we trade Carter.
Realistically, nothing can be gained from dealing Carter (this year I picked him in the pool too.. damn it).

His value has cratered at this point and buy high/sell low is typically not a good solution when the team is already struggling. May as well stick out the rest of this year and see if he can turn things around and possibly bring his value up for a deal at the draft or next season.

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I wonder if a PLEKANEK, CAMPOLI and a 3rd in 2012 for Carter and a 3rd this year? Would that work?
No...

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Why would St Louis take Mason? Halak/Elliot/Mason, all making millions+. Unless you plan on trading Halak and rolling with Elliot/Mason or bury Mason in the minors.
I'd bury him in the minors. Bishop needs a place where he can play, and Mason obviously isn't working out.

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Hackett + Zidlicky + Setoguchi ???

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